The thing that is really doing Whitmer in is her draconian policies have forced millions to unemployment, yet that system has failed and many can't even connect much less file a claim.

Michigan is a huge swing state. The DNC now knows with her on the ticket they don't stand a chance at taking Michigan in November. She over played her hand times ten. Now she knows it and she's pissed and going to take it out on the people of Michigan.

Had she played her cards right she had a good chance at being the VP pick I think. Hopefully the people of Michigan will choose more wisely next time.

Related to post on the previous page about testing the homeless and finding the majority to be asymptomatic - in all the articles I've read about the Tyson & Smithfield plants being shut down due to large numbers of employees testing positive - I don't recall any of them mentioning what % or number of employees were asymptomatic. Seems like a key reference point to include if they wanted to tell the entire story.

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I don't recall any of them mentioning what % or number of employees were asymptomatic. Seems like a key reference point to include if they wanted to tell the entire story.

That information is missing in a lot of reports because if a large percentage are not actually ill, it derails their entire argument for their actions.

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Originally posted by tleo205:

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I don't recall any of them mentioning what % or number of employees were asymptomatic. Seems like a key reference point to include if they wanted to tell the entire story.

That information is missing in a lot of reports because if a large percentage are not actually ill, it derails their entire argument for their actions.

Because that's exactly the information people need to feel safe resuming life.

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Originally posted by mutedblade:
It's because the homeless population isn't on average over 75 and they don't normally have 100 other things wrong with them. This shit is impacting a very specific group of people. It's the reason all of those bank tellers, grocery store clerks, and other POS employees aren't dying. They don't fit the mold....

The average age of those dying from the Wuhan virus is around 84 which is well above the average life expectancy of Americans.

The fact that we now as a result have tens of millions of able bodied working age men and women sitting on their asses at home doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
The battle for Michigan is heating up:

Michigan House Rejects Lockdown Extension, Votes To Sue Gov. Whitmer Instead

Ya get the idea that Whitmer's shot at VP has flown right out the window. I'm thinking her future as governor is likely very questionable at this point as well.

I sure as hell hope so!

She wasn't doing half-bad at first. Fairly moderate measures. Then, as the hospital case loads and deaths were ramping-up exponentially, she tightened the screws. Ok, I could grudgingly go along with that. (Though prohibiting landscapers and grass crews never made a lick of sense to me at all.) Then she went over the top, and now she's doubling-down.

Michigan now has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. Depending upon whom you believe, it's somewhere between 20% and 30%! And people can't even get through to file claims, much less collect.

Snyder, our last Governor, is probably sitting back saying "Do you miss me, yet?"

Oh, and I went to restock the beer fridge, yesterday. Loaded the returns into the Jeep, after checking the store's web site for information on can and bottle returns and seeing nothing. Turned out they're not accepting returns. But they're damn sure still collecting the deposit, you can bet your bottom dime on that

Side rant: On my way to purchase a replacement sprinkler head, a bag of seed, and a couple bags of fertilizer the other day, I stopped at three different pharmacies to try to buy either hand sanitizer or 90% alcohol. Nope. JFC on a pogo stick! Just how much hand sanitizer and alcohol can people buy, anyway?

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
Hopefully the people of Michigan will choose more wisely next time.

I hope so, but most voters are pretty shallow. For all her faults, Gretchen Whitmer is very attractive and she comes across as very sincere and very likable. And she knows how to use those assets to her advantage.

The other thing in regards to Michigan voters is it's much like Minnesota. The metro liberal left cities pretty much chose for the rest of us.

Michigan isn't the only shit show state. Here in Maryland the unemployment website has been a disaster as well. Still nothing for self-employed. Still nothing for nearly everyone I know. I have yet to talk to anyone that has received any money and unfortunately I know a lot of people are who recently unemployed.

Almost 2 weeks ago, our "God"vernor - Lockdown Larry Hogan - bought these kits from South Korea, made a huge production out of it, and not one has been used to date. In fact, the Washington Post ran an article that said the kits were incomplete and they had no idea when they would be able to use them. Meanwhile, domestic manufacturers could have provided the same kits for 20-30 percent less than what he paid. It was all a big ploy to make Trump look bad.

But the liberals in this state think he is doing a great job. It's mind-boggling.

It's really incredible how these situations expose people.

How much has anyone thought about how all this is going to get paid for. I know most think money falls from the sky or grows on trees. But it does not.

Take a minute and just think about it.

Unemployment, stimulus, pp, is just the tip of the iceberg.

Happy MayDay. I was surprised that Asthma and COPD hasn't been as big a factor. Metabolic health and oxidative stress are the main culprits and might be why it's been so difficult to predict outcomes.

It's odd that the 'cold and flu season' came and went with little fanfare.

I hope CA does a thorough investigation into newsom's purchase of one billion dollars of chinese made ppe...without legislative approval! Even members of his own party are calling for an investigation of the purchase from a well known chinese producer of defective products.

I wonder how many in China's government are taking orders from the USA to disrupt and harm their country. China sure seems to have a lot of our politicians doing just that to us.

So now we find out that Obama gave that ChiCom lab a grant in 2015......it is like the Steele Dossier all over again.

Certain food type rationing is starting - at least at Costco and Chicken products. No fresh Chicken breast to be had. Was only allowed 2 Kirkland canned Chicken 6-packs. I asked about potato chips and I could buy all I wanted it seem (not for me - just a wise ass question.)

I really feel like I'm in the DDR. Will have social distancing commissars next week at work - will be interesting (temp checks, limited and specific paths to follow - one way hall ways, only 2 people per elevator ride, yada yada, yada).

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Originally posted by GWbiker:
Any one here remember the Hong Kong Flue of 1969. 1,000,000 deaths world wide and around 100,000 in the US.

I lived in Miami then and I don't remember any Media generated panic, no small businesses closed and no orders to stay at home.

Why all the panic this time around.

Yeah, I remember but I was stationed at Ft. Ord at the time and they were more worried about a return of the meningitis outbreak that occurred earlier on the post than the flu. I was a young buck at the time and never gave it a thought.

Jim

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Originally posted by az4783054:
It's odd that the 'cold and flu season' came and went with little fanfare.

Some of that is just that the flu is familiar and so not very newsworthy.

The flu season this year started unusually quickly, involved an unusual combination of strains of flu viruses, and had an unusually high rate of pediatric hospitalization. That was widely known and discussed in the medical community but didn't get a lot of air time.

https://www.livescience.com/fl...d-h1n1-increase.html

If you look at the chart in that article (which is percent of doctor visits which were for "influenza-like-illnesses"), there was a very high peak around week 52 (end of December), then a drop, then a second peak. From what I heard at the time, there was concern in the medical community about the level of strain that could be put on the healthcare system just from flu cases this year. Fortunately that abrupt initial rise in cases dropped just as abruptly rather than following a more typical curve.

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Why all the panic this time around.

This is a full court press attack on our president and way of life by the left, for starters.

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Originally posted by Jimbo54:

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Originally posted by GWbiker:
Any one here remember the Hong Kong Flue of 1969. 1,000,000 deaths world wide and around 100,000 in the US.

I lived in Miami then and I don't remember any Media generated panic, no small businesses closed and no orders to stay at home.

Why all the panic this time around.

Yeah, I remember but I was stationed at Ft. Ord at the time and they were more worried about a return of the meningitis outbreak that occurred earlier on the post than the flu. I was a young buck at the time and never gave it a thought.

Jim

It was before my time but, I recall hearing stories of how Travis AFB up in Fairfield, was one of the quarantine centers as it was an air-hub for troops returning from Vietnam/East Asia.

Show host John Batchelor has spoken about it as he contracted the HK Flu back in the late 60's and has been relating his experience about it on his show.

Cuomo is keeping NY schools closed the remainder of the academic year. NY Schools Closed Remainder of Academic Year