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Originally posted by sigfreund:
I was commenting about the ambassador’s statement, not about reality. I never post, “He was just turning his life around,” or similar comments when some alpha hotel gets wasted in a botched robbery attempt, so I have to get my stunningly obvious observations in where I can.

Smart folks taking advantage of the "crisis". AKA Making the best of a bad situation.

The local cafe is great, and always busy. They are open now only for takeout, and they bring that to you in your car. Through the windows for two or three weeks now I can see ladders and all the considerable memorabilia and decorations are off the walls. It looks like they are taking the opportunity to do a remodel the dining room. Smart, and needed. Sort of a if life gives you lemons make lemonade type of deal...

My granny would call it... Using your head for something besides a hat rack.

If there's a panic for meat I supposed it could cause shortages in other protein sources, as people scramble for substitutes. Even though Tyson is processed stuff, people will likely panic buy whatever they can get their hands on. Look how long it took to start getting TP to last on the shelf, and there was no problem on the production side with that.

One good thing about meat, unlike TP - you can't fill your attic with weiners and steaks, so people will be more restricted in the amount they can horde, I guess.

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Originally posted by cparktd:
Sort of a if life gives you lemons make lemonade type of deal...

Link to original video: https://youtu.be/67N2Wxi63jo

https://www.breitbart.com/heal...-patients-directive/

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo suggested Monday that “money” was partly to blame for nursing homes failing to turn away coronavirus patients that they could not care for — after a state directive requiring them to take those patients.

Cuomo has come under increasing criticism for a March 25 directive requiring nursing homes to accept coronavirus patients. The directive read, in part (original emphasis): “No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH [nursing home] solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission.”

The policy is being scrutinized more closely as some 25% of the state’s fatalities from coronavirus have occurred in nursing homes.

Critics argue that the state should not have put coronavirus patients in facilities housing the elderly, who are the most vulnerable to the illness. New Jersey and California have similar policies.

Cuomo has insisted that it is the nursing homes’ responsibility to refer patients to the state department of health, or to other facilities, if they cannot care for those patients.

He reiterated that argument on Monday, and also took issue with a story in the New York Post about a nursing home in Brooklyn, the Cobble Hill Health Center, which told the state in early April that it could not handle coronavirus patients, but was refused permission to transfer them to facilities at the Jacob Javits Center or the USNS Comfort, both set up by the federal government.

The CEO of a hard-hit Brooklyn nursing home, where 55 patients have died from the coronavirus, told The Post last week that he’d been warning state Health Department officials for weeks he had staffing and equipment issues — yet received little help.

“There is no way for us to prevent the spread under these conditions,’’ the head of the Cobble Hill Health Center, Donny Tuchman, wrote in an e-mail to the department on April 8.

He said he asked to move some patients to the makeshift wards at Manhattan’s Javits Center and aboard the city-docked USNS Comfort amid the pandemic, only to be told those two spots were receiving only patients from hospitals.

“I made specific requests to transfer patients, and it didn’t happen,’’ Tuchman told The Post. “There weren’t options.”

Gov. Cuomo called the story “a bit misleading,” saying: “The Comfort is a federal facility, it doesn’t take transfers from nursing homes, it only takes transfers from hospitals. That’s why the Comfort wouldn’t take a transfer from a nursing home. Because the specific protocol on that specific ship said that people have to come from a hospital.”

He added: “You can’t refer from the nursing home to the Comfort. You can’t refer from a nursing home to the Marriott Hotel, you can’t refer to the Hilton. Yeah, I know. But that nursing home can call any other facilty, or can call the Department of Health, and the Department of Health will take that person and find a facility.”

Cuomo added: “Who cares about just that ship, if the point is that nursing home should have referred that patient, and should have told the Department of Health, ‘I can’t handle these patients.'”

He added that nursing homes knew they could lose “money” if they rejected patients, so they had an incentive to take coronavirus patients even if they could not care for them without endangering other patients.

“Whatever reason they want, they call the Department of Health, and say, ‘You take Bernadette. I can’t handle her. And the Department of Health takes [her]. Now, when the Department of Health takes Bernadette, they no longer get paid for Bernadette. Oh! Money.”

Cuomo said that nursing homes were allowed to transfer coronavirus patients back to hospitals if they themselves could not care for them, but he claimed that there were no cases in which nursing homes had done so .

The governor was later asked whether he was saying that nursing homes cared for profits more than for patients’ welfare.

“No. Not at all,” Cuomo said.

I may get my ass handed to me on this one but doesn't anyone else think sending USNS Comfort to NY was a huge waste of taxpayer's money? They treated 186 patients! Are they telling us that NY hospitals couldn't handle that many more patients? That ship should have been sent somewhere else where it could have done more good. I'd love to find out just how much that deployment cost us taxpayers.

Of course it was a waste of money. What are you going to do though when there are all the 'experts' saying there will be mass casualties? Best to be over prepared than under prepared.

See post above yours. Had they send the elderly to the boat instead of what they used it for I am sure many lives could have been saved.

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That ship should have been sent somewhere else where it could have done more good.

Where?

Other than fuel costs what was the additional cost? It was already manned. It was essentially paid for no matter where it was anchored.

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

That was my take. And we're talking processed meat, right?

I'm assuming my local butcher and grocery store meat counter will still have plenty of beef, no?

Yes, processed meat.

The problem coming with all the hype over a shortage is, people are going to start hoarding meat, which will make a shortage look real.

Recognize this for what it is. The main pandemic story is losing speed as people start to both question and buck it, and states reopen, so the media needs a brand new crisis with which to try and terrify to public. What's better than...."Now you're all going to starve to death."

Watched Governor DeSantis' press briefing from Tampa. You think he'd give me the name of his barber? I need a haircut and his hair looks good. Also, he's quoting numbers for recoveries. Be nice if the rest of us could see those, wouldn't it?

First off, none of us would actually starve even if ALL MEAT EVERYWHERE was unavailable. Not that I want to be a vegetarian but it won’t kill you. Probably the opposite in fact.

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Originally posted by rusbro:
One good thing about meat, unlike TP - you can't fill your attic with weiners and steaks, so people will be more restricted in the amount they can horde, I guess.

Obviously you've never seen how much SPAM there is in most Asian households

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Recognize this for what it is. The main pandemic story is losing speed as people start to both question and buck it, and states reopen, so the media needs a brand new crisis with which to try and terrify to public. What's better than...."Now you're all going to starve to death."

While the plants do need to take some time to sanitize everything...that is exactly what's being done by the media and others to further their agenda. It really disgusting to see how low they are willing to go. I hope karma bites them in the ass one of these days

"the Constitution is not suspended in times of crisis"

Remember when President Trump wanted to start re-opening the economy around Easter and was pilloried for suggesting it?

He was ahead of the curve like always.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
First off, none of us would actually starve even if ALL MEAT EVERYWHERE was unavailable. Not that I want to be a vegetarian but it won’t kill you. Probably the opposite in fact.

Hey, if meat became unavailable for purchase, there would be a lot of deaths around here on the ranch. The turkeys would be in serious danger, as would the deer which mostly just cruise around as if they owned the joint. Heck, even this cute little bugger might be in trouble.

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
This may be an issue. At the beginning of this my dedicated freezer broke and I had to throw food in it away....a buddy of mine actually got a new one and let me have his old one last week. Because of our money issues I haven’t restocked it. I’m wondering now, though, if maybe dipping further into the emergency funds may be appropriate

Food supply chain is breaking, Tyson foods chair says as processing plants continue to close


https://www.foxnews.com/food-d...coronavirus-closures


https://twitter.com/AnaSwanson...173854228489/photo/1

Tyson is two counties south of me. Next county east is George's. I work for another one of Tyson's competitors. Production of poultry products is normal.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
First off, none of us would actually starve even if ALL MEAT EVERYWHERE was unavailable. Not that I want to be a vegetarian but it won’t kill you. Probably the opposite in fact.

You're not plugged into the game. First the media will create panic and terror over meat production. When that story starts to fade, it will be produce next. Then who knows what comes next. The central theme here is the media maintaining fear and panic in the pubic for as long as possible.

Now it’s being reported that case fatality rate is increasing. Gotta keep the people scared and panicky. What utter bull.

https://thehill.com/policy/hea...onavirus-runs-deadly