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This is excellent and bad news at the same time.


I'm confused. How is this bad news? Maybe I am misunderstanding, but to me it sounds like, "The virus is much less lethal than the doomsayers have been predicting. It is also much more widespread." One can infer, "The shutdown is a total waste of time. It is time to put our big boy pants on, suggest those at higher risk (or who just feel unsafe) self-quarantine, and let everyone else go back to work."

Am I misunderstanding the information?
 
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If accurate, then this is more prevalent but it also seems to me as well, that it is not as lethal as they want us to think being that so many can have it with no or very little symptoms. It is totally time to let people get back to their lives and jobs.
But that will not fit with their narrative and efforts to control everyone.
 
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She needs to be brought to justice.





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Well they finally updated the IHME site, kind of, data through the 15th.
60,308 total projected deaths through August 4th, down from 68.5k pre-update.


Ohio's went back up from under 500 to over 700 deaths by August 4.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Georgeair:
WHO recommends limiting access to alcohol

Believe it may increase chances of catching the ‘vid.



That BS won't work at my house......Fuck Them!!!
 
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Well they finally updated the IHME site, kind of, data through the 15th.
60,308 total projected deaths through August 4th, down from 68.5k pre-update.


Yesterday, that model said Florida's peak deaths would happen on May 6 and we would have over 4,700 deaths. Today, it says the peak happened on April 2 and our total projected deaths are now under 1,400. At one point, when the shut down decisions were being made, project deaths were over 15,000. What happened between yesterday and today that caused the peak death date to shift from 2 weeks from now to 2 weeks ago? The model, the inputs, and/or the people running it are fucking shit.
 
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...What happened between yesterday and today that caused the peak death date to shift from 2 weeks from now to 2 weeks ago? ...


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Panic envy.
 
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WHO recommends limiting access to alcohol

Believe it may increase chances of catching the ‘vid.

Oopsie.


Fuck the WHO! I've got enough problems at work right now with all this bullshit, the last thing I need is for half the City of Anchorage to go into full blown withdrawal and come to the ER seeking treatment.




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Why would anybody believe anything the WHO says?
They have covered up and lied right from the start of this mess.
 
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Texas is laying the groundwork for reopening.

Gov Abbott issue 3 executive orders :
  • established the Strike Force to Open Texas—a team of nationally recognized medical experts and private and public leaders who will advise the Governor on safely and strategically reopening the state of Texas. More CEOs on the task force than doctors and politicians.
  • starting a retail to go model on April 24th for non-essential services
  • loosening restrictions on surgeries on April 21st based on COVID-19 PPE availability, reserving 25% of hospital beds for COVID-19, and are no long dependent on the state or feds for COVID-19 PPE

    As a result, my county's emergency manager [URL=suspended our Stay at Home Order and Curfew]suspended our Stay at Home Order and Curfew[/URL] .



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    ^^ and hopefully a week later they will open completely...




     
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    I did TOTALY hear that as you intended it to be! Cool




     
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    I, for one, really appreciated the very detailed presentation given by Admiral Giroir in today’s WH briefing. He emphasized the enormous, rapid build-up of testing capacity in an extremely sophisticated lab test; and innovation used to get around limitations such as the shortage of nasal swabs.


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    Originally posted by Skins2881:
    This is excellent and bad news at the same time.


    I'm confused. How is this bad news? Maybe I am misunderstanding, but to me it sounds like, "The virus is much less lethal than the doomsayers have been predicting. It is also much more widespread." One can infer, "The shutdown is a total waste of time. It is time to put our big boy pants on, suggest those at higher risk (or who just feel unsafe) self-quarantine, and let everyone else go back to work."

    Am I misunderstanding the information?


    It means it's likely even more contagious than thought and and mitigation efforts are pointless. We won't be able to protect the vulnerable very well. My grandparents may have to stay in their house until it burns out or a vaccine is made. Someone with an at risk spouse may be stuck in their house for months still. Someone who is at risk and near retirement may have to or choose to stay out of the workforce during their most important earning years. Lastly we probably trashed our entire economy for nothing at all.



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    Britain is the latest country to be burned by defective COVID-19 medical gear made in China

    https://www.washingtonexaminer...l-gear-made-in-china



    Pretty soon, we will be able to say the sun never sets on the countries that have lost time and money buying defective Chinese-manufactured medical gear for the coronavirus pandemic.

    British officials revealed this week that the 2 million COVID-19 home test kits they purchased for $20 million upfront from Chinese companies do not work.

    “Found to be insufficiently accurate by a laboratory at Oxford University,” the New York Times reports, “half a million of the tests are now gathering dust in storage. Another 1.5 million bought at a similar price from other sources have also gone unused. The fiasco has left embarrassed British officials scrambling to get back at least some of the money.

    The report adds, “A spokesperson from the Department of Health and Social Care said that the government had ordered the smallest number of tests allowed by the sellers and that it would try to recover the money, without specifying how.”

    Amazingly, the Chinese companies that sold the defective tests, AllTest Biotech and Wondfo Biotech, both of which declined requests to discuss the prices they charged British officials, are blaming the customer for supposedly misrepresenting and exaggerating their lousy products.

    Wondfo told a Chinese state-run newspaper that its “product was intended only as a supplement for patients who had already tested positive for the virus,” the New York Times notes. AllTest, meanwhile, said in a statement that the tests were intended only for use "by professionals,” not for personal use at home. But the problem is not whether the test is administered by a professional or an amateur. The problem is that the tests are flat-out “insufficiently accurate,” according to British health experts.

    Earlier, when AllTest and Wondfo courted British officials with a yes-or-no offer for the faulty antibody tests, they said their products met all of the European Union’s health, safety, and environmental standards. The New York Times also reports that “Public health officials reviewed the specifications on paper while the British Foreign Ministry hurriedly dispatched diplomats in China to ensure the companies existed and to examine their products.”

    Yet, after all of that, all the promises, the vetting, and guarantees of efficacy, the Chinese companies claim now that it is British officials who dropped the ball.

    The audacity of the Chinese government here is really stunning, given that Britain is not even the first coronavirus-infected country to pay Chinese suppliers exorbitant sums of cash for defective Chinese-manufactured medical equipment.

    The Czech Republic claims the 300,000 Chinese-made quick tests it purchased work only if the person being tested had been infected by the coronavirus for a minimum of five days. Czech health officials also said that approximately 100,000 of the kits were defective.

    Slovakia’s Prime Minister, Igor Matovic, said elsewhere that the more than 1 million tests that his predecessor purchased from Chinese-connected distributors are also defective. “We have a ton and no use for them,” he said of the $16 million worth of reportedly worthless kits. He added that they should “just be thrown straight into the Danube.”

    Spain recalled approximately 60,000 of the 340,000 Chinese-produced tests it purchased. Turkey said its Chinese-made kits had an accuracy rate of just 35%. Officials in the Netherlands recalled 600,000 of the 1.3 million Chinese-manufactured face masks they purchased, citing deficiencies in the filters.

    The Austrian government, meanwhile, reported that 500,000 Chinese-produced protective masks destined for South Tyrol were “unusable.” Italy, which has been hit especially hard by the pandemic China spread throughout the globe, is being made to buy back a cache of personal protective equipment it donated to China after reports of the outbreak first reached the West.

    Following the failures seen in Spain, Turkey, the Netherlands, and elsewhere, world governments would do well to stay as far away from Chinese “aid” as possible. The British debacle especially leaves one with the distinct impression that Chinese businesses are peddling snake oils cures in a none-too-subtle attempt to profit from the crisis the Chinese Communist Party helped create.

    As I have said before: “Made in China” should be seen as a warning if not an outright threat.


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    Think of all the medicine we buy or used to buy from china!


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    Are the Chinese tests inaccurate due to poor quality or intentionally?




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    The coronavirus is killed by sunlight, heat and humidity after all.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sun...ummer-200745675.html
     
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