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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I'm watching this three phase plan being laid out my Dr. Birx. Phase two should've been the extent of our strategy from the very beginning.

And screw you and your "New Normal." Count me out of that.

And now Dr. Fauci is up there making it sound like getting through these phases is going to take months. "Safety is paramount" he says. Wrong. I subscribe to Mike Rowe's theory of "Safety Third." Let's get out of this European Vacation roundabout like trap now. I've had my fill of Big Ben.

What exactly the fuck was that? There's levels, regions, states, areas, gates.

Sounds like the plan was made up with 50 people in the room suggesting all kinds of things and they picked and chose different ideas put them in a hat and picked a random 13 and combined them together.

I wanted to punch the 'experts'.

Remdesivir is Ebola treatment so accessibility is not widespread.

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Originally posted by kx90:

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:
^^^what do you do when you don’t have a mask?

The businesses were ordered to not let you in.

My plan was to tell them I already had it and was recovered....can’t get it again...and walk in like a boss.

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Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
Remdesivir is Ebola treatment so accessibility is not widespread.

. This is what we were hoping to see, if the other hospitals with phase 3 concur look for cross company licensing to ramp up this iv drug.

Wuhan Institute of Virology (China) Sought to Patent Gilead’s Remdesivir

https://www.trialsitenews.com/...-gileads-remdesivir/

Gilead’s experimental drug remdesivir shows possibly the most promise of all experimental COVID-19 vaccine prospects as evidenced by China’s reported possible move, via the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, to patent the drug to treat coronavirus. The experimental drug isn’t licensed or approved anywhere yet, but it surely looks promising. Both remdesivir and chloroquine show promise, according to Chinese authorities.

The Promise of Remdesivir

According to a report from IPRdaily, Gilead’s Remdesivir, a new antiviral drug of nucleotide analogs’ group, was initially introduced by Gilead to fight the Ebola virus, but the results there were not successful. However, at one point The New England Journal of Medicine promulgated that Remdesivir could challenge the brand-new coronavirus, as at some point an American patient with 2019-nCoV was prescribed the drug and doctors observed after about a week conditions improved. NEJM did advocate the use of randomly controlled trials to produce more evidence.

Chinese researchers observed that Remdesivir and chloroquine, a malaria treatment, could have an impact in slowing down the coronavirus.

The Move for a Patent Application

On January 21, it was reported that China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences filed a patent for commercial use of remdesivir in China. Also involved is the Military Medicine Institute of that nation. They sought to secure this patent “out of national interest” and noted they were not interested in enforcement should foreign pharma companies seek to collaborate in China to stop the pandemic. An IP attorney based in Shanghai, China observed that the Wuhan Institute of Virology would be wise to secure approval from the drug’s maker and owner—Gilead.

Remdesivir-based Clinical Trials in China

As TrialSite News has reported, Remdesivir is currently an experimental drug in use in at least a couple clinical trial programs in China. In one clinical trial, Jin Yin-tan Hospital in WuHan and others are conducting a study sponsored by Capital Medical University and the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences for up to 308 patients with mild to moderate COVID-19 symptoms. In another study concerning patients with severe COVID-19 conditions, Capital Medical University is sponsoring another study led by professor Bin Cao.

According to one report, the Chinese Healthcare Department has selected the Friendship Hospital in Beijing for conducting an additional study, including one with 270 coronavirus patients.

Conclusion

It could be deemed a provocative move for the local Wuhan institute to attempt to patent the Gilead drug without working with them. Remdesivir currently has entered China via clinical trials for patients with novel coronavirus. According to reports, the Northern California-based biotech has distributed at least enough doses for 500 patients—they are purportedly ramping up for more supply in case the clinical trials fail. Gilead’s chief medical officer reports that Remdesivir is being tested in at least two clinical trials in China.

If Gileads drug proves an effective antiviral this will have a huge psychological lift for this country. Production of the drug along with testing will probably dictate a timetable to return to normal.

Meanwhile, our Gov in Washington State has increased his estimate from 950 inmates to be released this week to 1,100. They sent out a list of names of those to be released which includes their DOC number. Doesn't include anything about why they were in prison. Perhaps they should just put 'Misunderstood' next to their name. Im sure they were there for public intoxication or something.

Probably wont be any real increase in crime...

Pleased to report the Change.Org recall petition
(For what its worth) for Michigan's evil queen has reached 268K+.

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Originally posted by 2PAK:
Meanwhile, our Gov in Washington State has increased his estimate from 950 inmates to be released this week to 1,100. They sent out a list of names of those to be released which includes their DOC number. Doesn't include anything about why they were in prison. Perhaps they should just put 'Misunderstood' next to their name. Im sure they were there for public intoxication or something.

Probably wont be any real increase in crime...

If you have someone local or of interest otherwise you might try navigating this.

https://www.doc.wa.gov/information/inmate-search/

Governor Parsons today said Missouri will begin a return to some normalcy May 3rd. The more populated counties will return at a more measured pace than the others.

That's about two weeks from now. About damn time.

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
Well, well, well...

Cuomo Extends Coronavirus Shutdown Order to May 15:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0...new-york-update.html

You should've been able to see this coming from a mile away.
When that date gets closer, they'll extend it again.

They can't do it any other way or people are going to flip out very quickly.
They're trying to keep the herd under control.

The masks restrictions are a joke.

Was out getting stuff today and seeing all kinds of mask failures.
Worn under the nose, only covering part of the nose, tight at the top of the nose and hanging down, home made, poorly fit, etc.

Local grocery store is requiring delivery drivers to wear masks to drop off products.
If you don't have a mask, they'll sell you an N95 mask for $5.00

Some had their own, some bought masks and some said fuck it and dropped the product anyway. A few of them asked if customers were required to wear mask? Answer, no. Then why must I wear one?

I'm happy to hear some of them refused to wear/buy the masks.

This shit is out of control and is getting worse, day by day.

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
Link for above:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/...onding-to-treatment/

Dammit! Is there anyone with even a modicum of curiosity and journalist abilities looking into this. It is kind of important after all.

"We’ve only had two patients perish,” said Kathleen Mullane, the University of Chicago infectious disease specialist overseeing the remdesivir studies for the hospital."

Really? Great news that the other 113 recovered and I hope this drug is the cure we need, but what was different about the two who died? How old were they? Did they have comorbidities that played a significant role in their deaths? Did someone accidentally trip over the cord to their respirators? 'Or', is there a group of yet unidentified people for which this drug doesn't work? Come on dude, throw me bone will ya and ask the follow up questions.

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Originally posted by midwest guy:
If Gileads drug proves an effective antiviral this will have a huge psychological lift for this country. Production of the drug along with testing will probably dictate a timetable to return to normal.

Forgive me, but didn't you (or maybe someone else above) note this an an IV drug? As such it wouldn't be much use to the folks who acquire symptoms but aren't sick enough to be hospitalized (i.e. the vast majority of cases), correct? So this is only meant for the most aggressive, hospitalized, cases, right?

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
Well, well, well...

Cuomo Extends Coronavirus Shutdown Order to May 15:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0...new-york-update.html

You should've been able to see this coming from a mile away.
When that date gets closer, they'll extend it again.

They can't do it any other way or people are going to flip out very quickly.
They're trying to keep the herd under control.

Yeah, but I think Cuomo is playing a dangerous game. As other states reopen and the world doesn't collapse, he's going to find it harder and harder to keep New York shut down.

If New York had a lot more cases than a lot of other states, wouldn't keeping it closed down while other states reopen would minimize the risk those other states would have to face by reopening?

China's 'seventh domain' bio warfare focus boosts coronavirus suspicions, says expert

https://justthenews.com/world/...irus-suspicions-says

In a podcast interview for John Solomon Reports, scholar and advisor to President Trump on China policy Michael Pillsbury discussed the origin of the novel coronavirus and where China stands today as a threat and rival to the U.S.

Pillsbury, whose 2015 book "The Hundred-Year Marathon: China’s Secret Strategy to Replace American as the Global Superpower," changed top officials’ understanding of American-Chinese relations, believes China has long been ramping up their military and intelligence operations, such that they have now surpassed the space and cyber warfare efforts of the United States by several key benchmarks.

“The schedule this year is that [China] will launch twice as many satellites as we do,” said Pillsbury.

Perhaps most alarmingly, Pillsbury warned of an area of warfare development that he says China calls “the seventh domain.”

The seventh domain refers to biological warfare, which Pillsbury says includes “bio weapons” and “genetically tuned weapons that can attack only a certain kind of ethnic group.”

The Biological Warfare Convention is a treaty signed by 183 nations globally, including China and the United States, stipulating that no participating nation will use or maintain biological weapons, aside from samples.

However, Pillsbury points out that several prominent Chinese generals have written books about the seventh domain being the next wave of warfare technology, and in the time since those books were published, one general has been made the head of China’s National Defense University, and the other is now the vice director of their Academy of Military Science.

All of this “adds to the suspicion about the coronavirus experiments in Wuhan,” says Pillsbury.

Adding further to those suspicions are the teams of Chinese scientist who, according to Pillsbury, wrote extensively, even boastfully, in world-renowned medical journals about their research on the coronavirus and its relationship to the genome structure of bats.

“Now, China's trying to take all that back," Pillsbury said. "They're trying to say no, we never really experimented with the virus. We didn't culture new strains of it in the laboratory. But the problem with that is their scientists have already published these articles, and they're rather easy to find online.”

https://www.foxnews.com/world/...f-virus-dead-by-1290

Translation: We’ve been lying about the numbers all along so we’re going to increase the number of deaths to make our lies more believable even though it’s still nowhere near the truth.

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/...f-virus-dead-by-1290

Translation: We’ve been lying about the numbers all along so we’re going to increase the number of deaths to make our lies more believable even though it’s still nowhere near the truth.

my thoughts exactly

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The opportunity for meddling is far, far worse than the virus. Now hoping the reaction to the Dems bullshit will be massive and legendary. Or we risk a real rupture.

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Originally posted by Sig209:

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
https://www.foxnews.com/world/...f-virus-dead-by-1290

Translation: We’ve been lying about the numbers all along so we’re going to increase the number of deaths to make our lies more believable even though it’s still nowhere near the truth.

my thoughts exactly

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If the Chinese are willing to "admit" an increase of deaths of 50% you can BET the actual number is exponentially higher.