If it’s what I think he is referring to it’s regarding the mutations the virus has made can basically provide a travel history, for lack of a better term

The whole virus still originated in China, but apparently the iterations of it that appeared in Washington state basically arrived straight from China, whereas the version of the virus in New York arrived via Italy/Europe


The origin is still China, it’s just the path of travel it took to reach various parts of the country

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Care to fill us in?

Thanks for the details, fellas.

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my mistake back on pg 364

I thought N95 had a HEPA filter.

HEPA will filter < 0.3 microns

No problem. N100 is considered HEPA-rated. 100% filtration of 0.3 micron particles (I think it's actually 99.97%).

Imagine the shitstorm if Trump had banned travel from Europe!

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Originally posted by Kevbo:
If it’s what I think he is referring to it’s regarding the mutations the virus has made can basically provide a travel history, for lack of a better term

The whole virus still originated in China, but apparently the iterations of it that appeared in Washington state basically arrived straight from China, whereas the version of the virus in New York arrived via Italy/Europe

They're referring to a mutation of the original virus. This new strain is tracking as more deadly than the original that came from Wuhan and is what we're mostly seeing on the East Coast. The "hot spot" in WA is from the Italian strain that has been traced to a visitor to the care home who had previously returned from the East Coast

A Stanford study is leading scientist to believe that the strain on the West Coast might have been here since late last year, but being milder strain, didn't attract as much attention...more like the "bad flu" that the original Wuhan virus was being described as. So in essence allowing the virus to spread so widely in Italy caused it to mutate into a deadlier form.

The importance of differentiating the two strains is to track how they differ in transmission and treatment.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Wow, are they really? How utterly shameful.

I haven't read the article Trump is referring to but I know what it's about--this is straight from Fauci.

I'm afraid Trump's stepping on his dick on this one, and so are you. This is what can happen when you don't actually read the article <smh>

What article? No one posted an article in reference to that tweet. So what are you talking about? If you got info, spill it. That's exactly why I asked.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
What article? No one posted an article in reference to that tweet. So what are you talking about? If you got info, spill it. That's exactly why I asked.

It is linked 9 posts after your question...or 6 posts before this one

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Originally posted by 9mmepiphany:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
What article? No one posted an article in reference to that tweet. So what are you talking about? If you got info, spill it. That's exactly why I asked.

It is linked 9 posts after your question...or 6 posts before this one

Yeah no shit. And it's 5 posts after the post I'm referring to.

Anyone who trusts the NYT's is a sucker. Plain and simple.

smh

Some good news:




Link to original video: https://youtu.be/zdwIxRnj2H0

Here's an article about the general idea, from National Geographic.

https://www.nationalgeographic...sprove-conspiracies/

There are groups collecting virus samples from people all over the world, sequencing the genomes, and building "family trees" of the mutations to examine spread of the virus around the world.

Trump's tweet seems to indicate he thinks the NYT article was saying the virus first appeared in Europe.

What they were actually saying is basically that the genomes of the samples from New York have mutations they observed in samples from Europe, but not China. Meaning the virus spread from China to Europe, then mutated, then the mutated virus spread from Europe to New York

It's like a new dog breed gets started in China, but they all have brown fur. Then a bunch of Europeans buy those dogs. Then the Europeans start breeding them with black fur. If you see a black one, even though it's a Chinese dog breed, you know at some point its ancestors were in Europe (and farther back, in China).

The number of samples is small. They have demonstrated pretty conclusively that some people in New York have a virus that got here by way of Europe.

They haven't proven that there aren't other people in the US or even in New York with the virus that got it in a direct line back to China.

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Iceland, which has a population that is about the same size as Tulsa, Oklahoma, has performed 96,000 tests per 1 million people.

Uhhh, can someone explain this to me. I'm math challenged. Iceland has like 360,000 people. But it has performed 96,000 tests per 1 million people?

Is that just an absurd way of saying "they've test 9.6% of their population"?

Why on earth would you phrase it like that?

Yes, yes and because saying "per million people" rather than "percent" either humanizes the dead or makes the whole thing sound more dramatic, depending on whose editor you ask.

Here's the headline in the New York Times (a former newspaper):

Studies Show N.Y. Outbreak Originated in Europe

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0...us-live-updates.html

The insinuation there should be blatantly obvious. The NYT (a former newspaper) and the WHO seem to have the same mission, and that is to be boot-lickers to the Chinese communist party.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/doj...n-religious-covid-19

These Communist governors and mayors need to get their dicks knocked in the dirt.

I know we’ve discussed whether LEOs would actively participate in firearm confiscation. Some would, some wouldn’t. It would be against their oath to the Constitution some say. This ticketing and arrest of church goers and people walking or playing in parks shows to me that the same politicians and LEO that do this, would have no problem trampling our 2A rights. Of course not all of them, but enough of them to be very concerning.

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I know we’ve discussed whether LEOs would actively participate in firearm confiscation. Some would, some wouldn’t. It would be against their oath to the Constitution some say. This ticketing and arrest of church goers and people walking or playing in parks shows to me that the same politicians and LEO that do this, would have no problem trampling our 2A rights. Of course not all of them, but enough of them to be very concerning.

Agreed. I’ve always said they’ll find enough people to do the dirty deed if the time actually comes.

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Originally posted by Sigfest:
I know we’ve discussed whether LEOs would actively participate in firearm confiscation. Some would, some wouldn’t. It would be against their oath to the Constitution some say. This ticketing and arrest of church goers and people walking or playing in parks shows to me that the same politicians and LEO that do this, would have no problem trampling our 2A rights. Of course not all of them, but enough of them to be very concerning.

I’ve been dealing with this on the front lines since our Department came out with its policy.

THE MOST I’ve done is “Hey, you know you shouldn’t be congregating in large groups.”
I waive
I drive away

I can only enforce LAWS.
I can’t save stupid people from themselves.

I’ve been sued before, a few times in Federal Court. I’ll be damned if I or any of my officers under me will be subjected to that.
I can’t say the same for the rest of the Dept. I’ve heard about some head-shaking moments in the past week or so.

As I look at it, it’s a suggestion. Maybe a strong suggestion, but still a suggestion. Until someone way up high on the food chain signs something putting “Marshal Law” (or even Marshall Crenshaw) into effect-
I waive
I drive away.

This has probably been posted but Bill Maher had a great take on the Chinese naming of this pandemic. He got got called out as a racist by liberal media today.




Viruses come from China like shortstops come from the Dominican Republic.

That ^^^^^ was simply great!

a lot of smoke about mask effectiveness. take a look at mask removal procedures.

non-contaminated person: - carefully remove by the ear straps and being careful not to touch the outer surface of the mask, remove.

if you are sick with covid19 then just remove it.