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The Green New Nose Under the Tent

It has been my custom now for several decades when looking at some shiny new policy being proposed, some public threat that “we must all act to counter,” to stand back and ask myself “Cui Bono?” i.e. “Who does this benefit?” Additional considerations are: is this in any way effective or commensurate or even sane for the problem it purports to solve? Who is pushing for this? And what do they let slip?

Under all of those headings, I’ve been getting very worried over the response to COVID-19.

The draconian measures put in place completely out of proportion to the threat they purport to combat. Please, please, please, note that the general death rate fell before any “social distancing” measures were put in place and the Imperial College model was revised after three days of lockdown, well before it could have had any impact on infection and lethality rates, both of which are fudged anyway. We neither have enough tests to test the entire population nor are the death certificates that list COVID-19 as the cause entirely truthful.

Some of these draconian measures also have nothing to do with combating the threat. All of them have to do with totalitarian fever dreams and with the illusion that humans are killing the Earth and must be stopped.

Locking everyone in their houses for months on end may destroy as many lives as it saves. Even without taking into account the economic devastation that will result, humans are social apes, and people cope very, very badly with being put under house arrest with no end in sight.

That’s not taking into account the fact that hospitals have been emptied, left deserted, and are now closing. Because hospitals and most human enterprises are not things you can turn on and off like the lights. They require maintenance and they require staffing, which requires training. Equipment needs to be maintained. Facilities have to be cleaned.

The longer the shutdown goes on, the higher the likelihood that many hospitals won’t come back. That in turn will reduce the availability of health care, and cause increased deaths.

But wait, there’s more! These hospitals are all economic endeavors. The longer they stay closed, the more broke they will be, thereby increasing the likelihood of a government takeover of health systems.

Which, of course, will also increase the death rate.

At some point you have to wonder: is the increased death rate the goal? Whom does the increased death serve? Well, leftists and the Greens (BIRM) have for a long time said that we need to bring the world population down to less than ten percent of what it is to “save the Earth.”

Besides, they don’t much like people, anyway.

Other things going on include the destruction of small businesses. The businesses taking it in the shorts, from small restaurants to neighborhood stores, are mostly small and family businesses. Meanwhile, large corporations like Walmart are open and doing just fine.

Well, leftists always, always prefer to deal with large corporations. Their phony hatred of them vanishes when it actually comes to policy. After all, it’s much better for them to have only a few large corporations to negotiate with so they can decide what can be sold and who will be allowed to work, and who will be allowed to eat.
This brings us to one of the most bizarre insanities of this: the restrictions on buying seeds because they’re not essential. One can’t avoid the sense that – having as little understanding of how likely home gardens are to fail as most first time gardeners – they’d really like to decide who gets to eat this winter.

And of course, what we get to eat.

Look, there is fodder trouble already at too many cattle farms. And, because by stupidity or design (stupidity wouldn’t be that consistent), certain filters necessary to produce commercial milk aren’t considered essential, milk is being dumped rather than sold.

Farmers are also having trouble getting parts for tractors and other agricultural machines. All of this is presaging famine to come. And honestly, the leftists and the Greens (BIRM) want to pick who lives and who dies.

Also, along those lines, we’re already hearing noise about a restriction on paint sales. You see, having more than one paint color – I advise you now to stock up on your favorite toothpaste, because they think the same – is bad for Gaia. And besides, you might make your house better than your neighbor’s, you elitist capitalist.

Oh, and keeping you shut in the house? That reduces emissions. If I had a dime for each empty-headed Green bragging about how this is great for the planet I’d have enough to swim in a bin filled with them, just like Uncle Scrooge.

More than one prominent leftist had made vague noises about COVID-19 being Gaia’s punishment on us faithless disbelievers. (Including the pope, may G-d have mercy on his soul and on the Catholic church under his leadership.)

Now, we’re used to everything from asteroid strikes to the heartbreak of psoriasis being blamed on “climate change.”

However, we could laugh at them with some impunity when they hadn’t scared about half of the country into an unreasoning panic. That unreasoning panic is allowing them to institute the Green New Deal by other means.

Do you think it is a coincidence that insects have been approved as food in the EU just now? Ah.

No, the Greens and the left probably didn’t invent or release the virus. But they are increasing the unreasoning panic, in order to put their boot on your face and keep it there.

I suggest you start looking at the panic and the unreasoning tyranny it brings and pushing back as hard as you can.

It might be too late to stop us from going Venezuela, but if we don’t try we’ll be reviled as the most cowardly and feckless generation on Earth.


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posted April 12, 2020 07:28 AMHide PostDoes anyone find it strange that the number of influenza and pneumonia cases (and for that matter deaths associated with them), particularly in New York, have essentially fallen to zero? Isn't that a bit odd?~Alan


Alan, I think you have stumbled upon a cure for influenza and maybe the common cold at the same time! Of course, like the politicians sometimes say, "the cure may be worse than the disease".
 
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Does anyone find it strange that the number of influenza and pneumonia cases (and for that matter deaths associated with them), particularly in New York, have essentially fallen to zero? Isn't that a bit odd?

Tongue in cheek, Jeffrey Satinover looks at these figures and remarks:

COVID-19 has proven to be a blessing in disguise, dramatically reducing deaths from a myriad of other conditions. The virus has apparently also targeted the seasonal flu, causing a dramatic reduction in influenza deaths as well.

Cathy Johnston Fasano, looking at the same figures, is even more (sarcastically) optimistic:

“If ALL deaths are caused by CV, then as soon as we find a vaccine or even an effective treatment, no one will ever die again! Those people who've had it and recovered are ALREADY immortal!!!”

It’s a Wuhan Virus Easter
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The Chinese have cured the flu! It's the Wuhan miracle!

The CCP should receive the Nobel prize.


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Three more deaths in Oregon....94, 93, and 81 years old.

Governor Brown says the state will be locked down until there's no Covid-19 related deaths for two weeks.
 
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interesting how the clamoring for 'MUST HAVE MORE VENTILATORS' is a thing of the past...


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Governor Brown says the state will be locked down until there's no Covid-19 related deaths for two weeks.
Good thing he's being specific. Roll Eyes


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Governor Brown says the state will be locked down until there's no Covid-19 related deaths for two weeks.
Good thing he's being specific. Roll Eyes


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Three more deaths in Oregon....94, 93, and 81 years old.
Governor Brown says the state will be locked down until there's no Covid-19 related deaths for two weeks.

Hell, just keep it locked down until people stop dying altogether. What a dumbass.


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Just make dying illegal.
 
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And so it begins. Read this: https://www.the-sun.com/news/6...s-shut-down-earlier/

Then watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhy2FgkP0Yw

Dr. FALSI is just another bureaucrat playing CYA, plain and simple.


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Just make dying illegal.

You can make whatever laws you want to; people will still be doing it to spite the system...




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I supported this because we had to do something But it's devolving into a farce.

Looking around I found 7500 people died in America everyday in normal times. 7500 out of 360,000,000.

At this point I think I was more at risk driving to work in traffic everyday. The stress and anxiety of mixed messages and not knowing what's actually going on is probably worse for my health than living a normal life.

This probably just shows our medical infrastructure wasn't up to handling even a small bump in the road.


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Just make dying illegal.


Why do all that work, just have your governors proclaim it illegal. No need to use the democratic process.



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Just make dying illegal.


Why do all that work, just have your governors proclaim it illegal. No need to use the democratic process.


under penality of death?
 
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^^^^ Big Grin


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Hitching up the boat and heading to the lake. I'll check back later to see if the world still exists.
 
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https://www.breitbart.com/euro...pms-country-retreat/

The UK Prime Minister is heading to his country retreat to convalesce one week after he was admitted to hospital, and days after he was released from intensive care suffering with coronavirus.

Boris Johnson was released from hospital on Sunday, a week to the day after he was admitted to St Thomas’ in London for what a Downing Street briefing said was tests, but quickly deteriorated into a spell in intensive care. The Prime Minister first showed symptoms of the China coronavirus 17 days ago, but will now move to Chequers, the country house and estate owned by the British government and given as a grace-and-favour second residence to sitting Prime Ministers.

UK state broadcaster the BBC reports the Prime Minister will not immediately return to work, but will spend some time recovering at Chequers
 
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the Prime Minister will not immediately return to work, but will spend some time recovering at Chequers

Not a bad idea. I think I'd want to get away from the City for a while too...




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