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Bill Maher Video

Stopped clock and all that...

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Originally posted by maladat:
Here's an article about the general idea, from National Geographic.

https://www.nationalgeographic...sprove-conspiracies/

There are groups collecting virus samples from people all over the world, sequencing the genomes, and building "family trees" of the mutations to examine spread of the virus around the world.

Yeah, you can follow the strains on NextStrain, which I posted before. It takes some getting used to, but if you want to see where e. g. the NYC strain likely passed through, scroll down to "Filter by Admin Division" and click on "New York" (121 samples). I like to set the chart to "radial", which I find less cluttered than the default tree depiction. China is then at the center, and you see three distinct purple lines connecting it to samples taken in New York on the fringe. Hovering over the lines will show you how the genome of that particular strain matches samples taken around the world.

The broadest branch is via a spot dated between 17 and 22 January matching samples taken in Belgium with 99 percent confidence, and in the UK with one percent. This has another four branches - one via the UK, one via France, and two related to samples from Belgium and the Netherlands.

The next branch (counterclockwise in radial depiction) has one sub-branch related to samples found in Hong Kong, Singapore and again Belgium; another one that seems to have gone through Iran in late February; and again one via the UK - this one has an early relation to New York, showing a 63 percent confidence match in February already. One of its own sub-branches indicates it went from the US to the Netherlands, and re-entered from there at a later date.

The third branch has one sub-branch coming to the US directly from China between 22 and 28 February; one more going the same way somewhat later; one going via Canada; and two via Spain. The vectors are also depicted on the map below the tree, which shows the branches via Belgium, the UK, Spain, Iran, Canada and directly from China more clearly, albeit without dates and sub-national sample locations.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
That ^^^^^ was simply great!

Bill Maher pisses me off and is a liberal but he does seem to use logic occasionally which is more than I can say for most.

I am going to send that video to my liberal friends and wait for them to declare that Bill Maher is now off the reservation and not woke enough.

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Originally posted by bcereuss:

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Bill Maher Video

Stopped clock and all that...

Is willing to abandon the self-serving fad of political correctness only when afraid for how it will affect him. That said, a good clip. Dead on right! Finally.

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Originally posted by Oat_Action_Man:

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Originally posted by wcb6092:


Iceland, which has a population that is about the same size as Tulsa, Oklahoma, has performed 96,000 tests per 1 million people.

Uhhh, can someone explain this to me. I'm math challenged. Iceland has like 360,000 people. But it has performed 96,000 tests per 1 million people?

Is that just an absurd way of saying "they've test 9.6% of their population"?

Why on earth would you phrase it like that?

The “per million” statement brings a “standard” rate (or percentage) to the measurement.

Many countries’ populations are 1 million plus, so “parts per million” becomes a better unit of measure for whatever characteristic tnan a percentage (parts per hundred).

Now it’s fraction time:
Test rate (TR) = 96000/million (or 0.096%)
Population (P) = 360,000
TR x P = the actual number.

(96,000/1,000,000) × 360,000 = 34,560 tests performed

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Originally posted by CPD SIG:

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Originally posted by Sigfest:
I know we’ve discussed whether LEOs would actively participate in firearm confiscation. Some would, some wouldn’t. It would be against their oath to the Constitution some say. This ticketing and arrest of church goers and people walking or playing in parks shows to me that the same politicians and LEO that do this, would have no problem trampling our 2A rights. Of course not all of them, but enough of them to be very concerning.

I’ve been dealing with this on the front lines since our Department came out with its policy.

THE MOST I’ve done is “Hey, you know you shouldn’t be congregating in large groups.”
I waive
I drive away

I can only enforce LAWS.
I can’t save stupid people from themselves.

I’ve been sued before, a few times in Federal Court. I’ll be damned if I or any of my officers under me will be subjected to that.
I can’t say the same for the rest of the Dept. I’ve heard about some head-shaking moments in the past week or so.

As I look at it, it’s a suggestion. Maybe a strong suggestion, but still a suggestion. Until someone way up high on the food chain signs something putting “Marshal Law” (or even Marshall Crenshaw) into effect-
I waive
I drive away.

So what you are saying is you won’t violate our constitutional rights until ordered to? That’s reassuring.

Does anyone find it strange that the number of influenza and pneumonia cases (and for that matter deaths associated with them), particularly in New York, have essentially fallen to zero? Isn't that a bit odd?

Gosh.

Could it possibly have anything to do with $$$$$$$$$ ?

The conspiracy/cover-up story lines continue----this will lead to some awkward moments for a few Administrations:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...rus-source-bats.html

REVEALED: U.S. government gave $3.7million grant to Wuhan lab at center of coronavirus leak scrutiny that was performing experiments on bats from the caves where the disease is believed to have originated

The Chinese laboratory at the center of scrutiny over a potential coronavirus leak has been using U.S. government money to carry out research on bats from the caves which scientists believe are the original source of the deadly outbreak.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook coronavirus experiments on mammals captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan which were funded by a $3.7 million grant from the US government.

Sequencing of the COVID-19 genome has traced it back to bats found in Yunnan caves but it was first thought to have transferred to humans at an animal market in Wuhan.

The revelation that the Wuhan Institute was experimenting on bats from the area already known to be the source of COVID-19 - and doing so with American money - has sparked further fears that the lab, and not the market, is the original outbreak source.

Lawmakers and pressure groups were quick to hit out at U.S. funding being provided for the 'dangerous and cruel animal experiments at the Wuhan Institute'.

On Saturday, Anthony Bellotti, president of the US pressure group White Coat Waste, condemned his government for spending tax dollars in China, adding: 'Animals infected with viruses or otherwise sickened and abused in Chinese labs reportedly may be sold to wet markets for consumption once experiments are done.'

Since an outbreak of the novel coronavirus emerged in the city in December, it has been at the center of conspiracy theories which suggest that the bug originated there.

While scientists believe that the virus jumped to humans from wild animals sold as food in a market in Wuhan, conspiracy theorists promote different assumptions.

Some of them claim that the virus, formally known as SARS-CoV-2, could be a biological warfare weapon engineered there. Others suspect that it escaped from the lab.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Does anyone find it strange that the number of influenza and pneumonia cases (and for that matter deaths associated with them), particularly in New York, have essentially fallen to zero? Isn't that a bit odd?

I'm interested in seeing the year over year numbers when they become available.

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Originally posted by CPD SIG:

...(or even Marshall Crenshaw) into effect...

Good one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKZkhdvSNSI

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Does anyone find it strange that the number of influenza and pneumonia cases (and for that matter deaths associated with them), particularly in New York, have essentially fallen to zero? Isn't that a bit odd?

I'm interested in seeing the year over year numbers when they become available.

Well, you can start here. This is from the New York State Department of Health. It is their weekly influenza surveillance report.

2018-2019

https://www.health.ny.gov/dise...03-30_flu_report.pdf

2019-2020

https://www.health.ny.gov/dise...ort_current_week.pdf

Those are just screenshots of one page. There's more in the report at the links.

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Originally posted by frayedends:

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Originally posted by CPD SIG:

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Originally posted by Sigfest:
I know we’ve discussed whether LEOs would actively participate in firearm confiscation. Some would, some wouldn’t. It would be against their oath to the Constitution some say. This ticketing and arrest of church goers and people walking or playing in parks shows to me that the same politicians and LEO that do this, would have no problem trampling our 2A rights. Of course not all of them, but enough of them to be very concerning.

I’ve been dealing with this on the front lines since our Department came out with its policy.

THE MOST I’ve done is “Hey, you know you shouldn’t be congregating in large groups.”
I waive
I drive away

I can only enforce LAWS.
I can’t save stupid people from themselves.

I’ve been sued before, a few times in Federal Court. I’ll be damned if I or any of my officers under me will be subjected to that.
I can’t say the same for the rest of the Dept. I’ve heard about some head-shaking moments in the past week or so.

As I look at it, it’s a suggestion. Maybe a strong suggestion, but still a suggestion. Until someone way up high on the food chain signs something putting “Marshal Law” (or even Marshall Crenshaw) into effect-
I waive
I drive away.

So what you are saying is you won’t violate our constitutional rights until ordered to? That’s reassuring.

Pretty sure he's saying he'll only enforce LAWS. If you're referring to 'Martial Law', that would be enforced by the Military, not the local PD!

If less than 100 people having it here at the start caused all this how is ending it with thousands infected not going to cause it to spike like social distancing never happened? What is the point of all this?

The Green New Nose Under the Tent

It has been my custom now for several decades when looking at some shiny new policy being proposed, some public threat that “we must all act to counter,” to stand back and ask myself “Cui Bono?” i.e. “Who does this benefit?” Additional considerations are: is this in any way effective or commensurate or even sane for the problem it purports to solve? Who is pushing for this? And what do they let slip?

Under all of those headings, I’ve been getting very worried over the response to COVID-19.

The draconian measures put in place completely out of proportion to the threat they purport to combat. Please, please, please, note that the general death rate fell before any “social distancing” measures were put in place and the Imperial College model was revised after three days of lockdown, well before it could have had any impact on infection and lethality rates, both of which are fudged anyway. We neither have enough tests to test the entire population nor are the death certificates that list COVID-19 as the cause entirely truthful.

Some of these draconian measures also have nothing to do with combating the threat. All of them have to do with totalitarian fever dreams and with the illusion that humans are killing the Earth and must be stopped.

Locking everyone in their houses for months on end may destroy as many lives as it saves. Even without taking into account the economic devastation that will result, humans are social apes, and people cope very, very badly with being put under house arrest with no end in sight.

That’s not taking into account the fact that hospitals have been emptied, left deserted, and are now closing. Because hospitals and most human enterprises are not things you can turn on and off like the lights. They require maintenance and they require staffing, which requires training. Equipment needs to be maintained. Facilities have to be cleaned.

The longer the shutdown goes on, the higher the likelihood that many hospitals won’t come back. That in turn will reduce the availability of health care, and cause increased deaths.

But wait, there’s more! These hospitals are all economic endeavors. The longer they stay closed, the more broke they will be, thereby increasing the likelihood of a government takeover of health systems.

Which, of course, will also increase the death rate.

At some point you have to wonder: is the increased death rate the goal? Whom does the increased death serve? Well, leftists and the Greens (BIRM) have for a long time said that we need to bring the world population down to less than ten percent of what it is to “save the Earth.”

Besides, they don’t much like people, anyway.

Other things going on include the destruction of small businesses. The businesses taking it in the shorts, from small restaurants to neighborhood stores, are mostly small and family businesses. Meanwhile, large corporations like Walmart are open and doing just fine.

Well, leftists always, always prefer to deal with large corporations. Their phony hatred of them vanishes when it actually comes to policy. After all, it’s much better for them to have only a few large corporations to negotiate with so they can decide what can be sold and who will be allowed to work, and who will be allowed to eat.
This brings us to one of the most bizarre insanities of this: the restrictions on buying seeds because they’re not essential. One can’t avoid the sense that – having as little understanding of how likely home gardens are to fail as most first time gardeners – they’d really like to decide who gets to eat this winter.

And of course, what we get to eat.

Look, there is fodder trouble already at too many cattle farms. And, because by stupidity or design (stupidity wouldn’t be that consistent), certain filters necessary to produce commercial milk aren’t considered essential, milk is being dumped rather than sold.

Farmers are also having trouble getting parts for tractors and other agricultural machines. All of this is presaging famine to come. And honestly, the leftists and the Greens (BIRM) want to pick who lives and who dies.

Also, along those lines, we’re already hearing noise about a restriction on paint sales. You see, having more than one paint color – I advise you now to stock up on your favorite toothpaste, because they think the same – is bad for Gaia. And besides, you might make your house better than your neighbor’s, you elitist capitalist.

Oh, and keeping you shut in the house? That reduces emissions. If I had a dime for each empty-headed Green bragging about how this is great for the planet I’d have enough to swim in a bin filled with them, just like Uncle Scrooge.

More than one prominent leftist had made vague noises about COVID-19 being Gaia’s punishment on us faithless disbelievers. (Including the pope, may G-d have mercy on his soul and on the Catholic church under his leadership.)

Now, we’re used to everything from asteroid strikes to the heartbreak of psoriasis being blamed on “climate change.”

However, we could laugh at them with some impunity when they hadn’t scared about half of the country into an unreasoning panic. That unreasoning panic is allowing them to institute the Green New Deal by other means.

Do you think it is a coincidence that insects have been approved as food in the EU just now? Ah.

No, the Greens and the left probably didn’t invent or release the virus. But they are increasing the unreasoning panic, in order to put their boot on your face and keep it there.

I suggest you start looking at the panic and the unreasoning tyranny it brings and pushing back as hard as you can.

It might be too late to stop us from going Venezuela, but if we don’t try we’ll be reviled as the most cowardly and feckless generation on Earth.


https://pjmedia.com/blog/the-g...nose-under-the-tent/

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posted April 12, 2020 07:28 AMHide PostDoes anyone find it strange that the number of influenza and pneumonia cases (and for that matter deaths associated with them), particularly in New York, have essentially fallen to zero? Isn't that a bit odd?~Alan

Alan, I think you have stumbled upon a cure for influenza and maybe the common cold at the same time! Of course, like the politicians sometimes say, "the cure may be worse than the disease".

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Does anyone find it strange that the number of influenza and pneumonia cases (and for that matter deaths associated with them), particularly in New York, have essentially fallen to zero? Isn't that a bit odd?

Tongue in cheek, Jeffrey Satinover looks at these figures and remarks:

COVID-19 has proven to be a blessing in disguise, dramatically reducing deaths from a myriad of other conditions. The virus has apparently also targeted the seasonal flu, causing a dramatic reduction in influenza deaths as well.

Cathy Johnston Fasano, looking at the same figures, is even more (sarcastically) optimistic:

“If ALL deaths are caused by CV, then as soon as we find a vaccine or even an effective treatment, no one will ever die again! Those people who've had it and recovered are ALREADY immortal!!!”

It’s a Wuhan Virus Easter
https://www.americanthinker.co...an_virus_easter.html

The Chinese have cured the flu! It's the Wuhan miracle!

The CCP should receive the Nobel prize.

Three more deaths in Oregon....94, 93, and 81 years old.

Governor Brown says the state will be locked down until there's no Covid-19 related deaths for two weeks.

interesting how the clamoring for 'MUST HAVE MORE VENTILATORS' is a thing of the past...


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