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Don't forget the students and their new online classes. For example, I have three kids that come March 30th will be on their computers for 7 hours a day, 5 days a week. Their school will be using Google classroom. I have no idea what that is or how it works, but "This is gonna be GREAT!" The school has 400 students from maybe 200 households, some households have 4 or more students. The school has never done this before. The parents have never done this before. What could possibly go wrong?
 
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Giving it to fucking retirees? What income have they lost?

As I noted over in the current "Trump" thread: My wife and I neither need nor want it, but we planned our retirement somewhat wisely. (Could have done better, and it's mainly my fault we didn't, but we didn't do too badly.)

Social Security is great and all, but if you've been making moderately good income, switching from that to SS alone would demand a fairly significant reduction in standard of living.

I imagine there are retirees that didn't, or couldn't, plan as we, by the Grace of God, could and did, and who have been perhaps more reliant than is good on income from retirement accounts that have now taken possibly big hits.

So some might could use it.



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Great, getting screwed over on the bailout, we'd be mostly phases out of bailout money, but they'll have no problem making me pay for it. All the years and years of paying my taxes and the time I need it, nope, sorry, can't help you. Where I live $75k a year is barely middle class, and is dirt poor in NYC or SF. Thanks government,.
Either give it to everyone or means test it, this screws a lot of us in the middle. Giving it to fucking retirees? What income have they lost?

I hear you, Skins2881... but they ARE means testing it, based on income. It phases out beginning at $75k for an individual, $150K for a married couple.
Still, I'm opposed to ALL bailouts, whether I get one or not.



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I have maybe just a little more confidence in CDC numbers but not much.


Krazeehorse, we need to have a talk. Please put a line between your text and your signature. Cool
 
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Great, getting screwed over on the bailout, we'd be mostly phases out of bailout money, but they'll have no problem making me pay for it. All the years and years of paying my taxes and the time I need it, nope, sorry, can't help you. Where I live $75k a year is barely middle class, and is dirt poor in NYC or SF. Thanks government,.

McConnell's coronavirus stimulus plan would provide payments of $1,200 per person, $2,400 for couples

Either give it to everyone or means test it, this screws a lot of us in the middle. Giving it to fucking retirees? What income have they lost?


Well Jesse, my wife and I are "fucking retirees" who donated to the government for around 55 years each and we discussed it and we will probably give it to a good cause to help someone that will need it more than we do. I'll bet there will many that will do the same.

Think before you post please. Confused

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They used some official test in a box, it was mailed off, and they will supposedly know the results in a week.


Can one of the more medically educated members of the forum explain why this is?

When I or my child gets a flu test, they jam a long q-tip up my nose, I sit in the office by myself for 10 minutes and they come back and say, "You have Flu B."

If COVID-19 is so dangerous that they are willing to crash the world economy and come close to martial law, why does it take a week to get a test result? Does it require some sort of special lab to test for it?
 
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Well Jesse, my wife and I are "fucking retirees" who donated to the government for around 55 years each ...

I dunno about you and your wife, but my wife and I are still "donating" to the government, even though we're "fucking retirees."

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Think before you post please. Confused

The hell you say!



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Great, getting screwed over on the bailout, we'd be mostly phases out of bailout money, but they'll have no problem making me pay for it. All the years and years of paying my taxes and the time I need it, nope, sorry, can't help you. Where I live $75k a year is barely middle class, and is dirt poor in NYC or SF. Thanks government,.
Either give it to everyone or means test it, this screws a lot of us in the middle. Giving it to fucking retirees? What income have they lost?

I hear you, Skins2881... but they ARE means testing it, based on income. It phases out beginning at $75k for an individual, $150K for a married couple.
Still, I'm opposed to ALL bailouts, whether I get one or not.


I'm against it too, but if we are going to skyrocket our debt and devalue my savings I want it to go to me too. By means testing, i meant more needs based. If you haven't lost any income why get it? College students, retirees, those who are still working or working near full time don't need a bailout. $150k is still middle income in many places in America. If you got two people eating $74,999 but both can work from home, they are actually better off. No dry cleaning bills, no need to buy gas, not eating lunch out.

I'd be fine without it, but it would make me feel better.



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Great, getting screwed over on the bailout, we'd be mostly phases out of bailout money, but they'll have no problem making me pay for it. All the years and years of paying my taxes and the time I need it, nope, sorry, can't help you. Where I live $75k a year is barely middle class, and is dirt poor in NYC or SF. Thanks government,.

McConnell's coronavirus stimulus plan would provide payments of $1,200 per person, $2,400 for couples

Either give it to everyone or means test it, this screws a lot of us in the middle. Giving it to fucking retirees? What income have they lost?


Well Jesse, my wife and I are "fucking retirees" who donated to the government for around 55 years each and we discussed it and we will probably give it to a good cause to help someone that will need it more than we do. I'll bet there will many that will do the same.

Think before you post please. Confused

Jim


The fucking part was not said against retirees, it was against giving money to people that haven't lost money getting checks. I have zero angst with retirees.

I'm a little worked up here from losing my income from this thing. I'll survive, but its going to kill my savings.



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The fucking part was not said against retirees, ...

Bullshit! You're just annoyed you're not a retiree, fucking or otherwise.




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I have maybe just a little more confidence in CDC numbers but not much.


Krazeehorse, we need to have a talk. Please put a line between your text and your signature. Cool


I was just thinking that.....

/drift



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Giving it to fucking retirees? What income have they lost?


What the hell makes you think all us retirees fuck? Sure would be nice, but many wives aren't willing.

Oh, and I still pay income tax. I should get a pass on that if I don't get "stimulated". You paint with a wide brush.


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I have maybe just a little more confidence in CDC numbers but not much.


Krazeehorse, we need to have a talk. Please put a line between your text and your signature. Cool

hehe, I tried to edit and just hit enter 3 or 4 times after my text but that didn't work. How to I put space in there?


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Giving it to fucking retirees? What income have they lost?


What the hell makes you think all us retirees fuck? Sure would be nice, but many wives aren't willing.

Oh, and I still pay income tax. I should get a pass on that if I don't get "stimulated". You paint with a wide brush.
You could get stimulated with viagra.. Big Grin
 
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Tell me something- just what is the logic behind shutting down liquor stores? Everything is closed and everyone is home. WTF is the problem with having a drink under those circumstances? You're sittin' on your couch in your own home. That's the best place to drink.

Mary Sue has the flu, so no booze for you. Makes no sense to me.
 
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Just informed that my brother was let go by his employer. No shit, he made $75,600 in 2018. So he isn’t eligible or is he? He isn’t looking for a handout and he has savings but the stimulus is a kick in the nuts to someone just laid off that barely misses the cut.
 
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@ Para,
I went to the store last night because I know they will close em down eventually.



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The fucking part was not said against retirees, ...

Bullshit! You're just annoyed you're not a retiree, fucking or otherwise.



Tis true, it's what I aspire to be. Even as a kid when people asked me what I wanted to be when I grow up, my answer was always - independently wealthy.



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PA Gov Wolf just ordered all non-life-sustaining businesses to close, and enforcement will begin tonight. The list of businesses can be found here. This likely includes gun stores.



 
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