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Originally posted by Bassamatic:
I went to one of our local supermarkets yesterday to pick up a few things. The produce section was fully stocked as was the meat department. I even picked up some T-Bones for $3.99 a pound. Everything looked normal except for the TP section and they had no hand sanitizers.

No local schools are closed and I have heard of no restaurants closing. Gas was $1.94. Things are not that far from normal around here.

I've been out and about around the Lake and seems pretty much like business as usual to me also.

I think we're nearly ready. Our drive through testing center should be up tomorrow. All of the controls at the acute care facilities (hospitals) are in place. We're very anxious of course. But we're ready care for COVID patients when they arrive.

Praying for a miracle. Praying this fizzels out in our area. No evidence or reason to believe that it will.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
We are the United States of America, we are immune to viruses for some reason.

Plus, the only reason we’re having any problems with the disease here is because of the hysteria generated by the BS news media and the Democrats. I’m not sure why foreigners are getting sick and instituting draconian quarantine and other measures, except, perhaps, because they’re foreigners. Yeah, they’re also dying at a faster rate than we are at the moment, but that’s because of their lousy healthcare systems.

Why anyone at all is dying in foreign countries is a little bit of a puzzler, though, because we all know that the disease isn’t really that bad—just a little cough and sniffles, not to mention that more people die from the flu and traffic accidents—so being foreigners must be the reason why the disease turns bad for them in the first place.

Get familiar with the Gompertz curve. Good news is that outbreaks don’t stay exponential. They do level out.



The Gompertz Curve is defined as

y(t) = α * exp(-β * exp(-k^t))

where

t = time
alpha = upper asymptote
beta = growth displacement
k = growth rate


https://wattsupwiththat.com/20...e-math-of-epidemics/

Things are getting pretty crazy here in south eastern Pennsylvania. Montgomery county seems to be the hot zone for this virus here, and I believe the governor is about a day or two from locking the entire Philadelphia Suburban region down, they are already shutting down everything around here except grocery stores, gas stations, and pharmacies. I really feel bad for my brother-in-law who opened two restaurants in the past two years in Phoenixville, PA and he was just told to close except for takeout and expects to be told to shut down completely soon, this will be financially devastating and I’m not sure if he can recover from this if it goes on for weeks and weeks. My poor pregnant wife is freaking out now, and is at the supermarket right now getting more food, we are trying to have enough for three weeks or longer without having to go anywhere.

No military/NG presence anywhere yet, but I think it is coming. This is getting surreal, I feel like we are living in the movie Deep Impact where everyone is preparing for a comet strike.

There was a the0ry floated that illegals would self deport if there were no jobs. I don't believe it, but we will see if illegal immigration reverses direction

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
We are the United States of America, we are immune to viruses for some reason.

Plus, the only reason we’re having any problems with the disease here is because of the hysteria generated by the BS news media and the Democrats. I’m not sure why foreigners are getting sick and instituting draconian quarantine and other measures, except, perhaps, because they’re foreigners. Yeah, they’re also dying at a faster rate than we are at the moment, but that’s because of their lousy healthcare systems.

Why anyone at all is dying in foreign countries is a little bit of a puzzler, though, because we all know that the disease isn’t really that bad—just a little cough and sniffles, not to mention that more people die from the flu and traffic accidents—so being foreigners must be the reason why the disease turns bad for them in the first place.

MSM and the Democrats, yep. Nothing to see here, move along. If you take precautions, you're a crazy prepper.

Is it not possible that thousands infected, people dying, economy getting destroyed is both a real thing as well as something being weaponized by the left?

Funny the reactions on here. Especially for all the people on here that carry a gun every day, just in case they need it, the chances of them dying from this virus is probably higher than ever being attacked by a bad guy.

Why people can't be bothered to pick up some extra supplies; a extra thing of TP; check their first aid kits; and stay away from large gatherings amazes me. I thought there was a number of ex Boy Scouts on this page.

Be Prepared.

I'd like to see the pantries and ammo shelves of the people who say 'this is just like the flu', and see if they are putting their money where their mouths are.

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Originally posted by PASig:
No military/NG presence anywhere yet, but I think it is coming. This is getting surreal, I feel like we are living in the movie Deep Impact where everyone is preparing for a comet strike.

Girlfriend's brother is PA NG. He's in Montco. He got a text last night asking about his availability, he responded that he's available then he got another text saying he's in the hot zone and to stay home.

We are in lower Bucks. We went out to dinner last night and stopped by the liquor store to get some Bailey's to put on ice cream, the place was so mobbed that we didn't even pull into a parking spot.

Mine looks exactly like it does 12 months a year.

When this turns out to be the huge nothing burger in the US that it is, I guess we get to listen how the hystericals hand wringing saves us all.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

I'd like to see the pantries and ammo shelves of the people who say 'this is just like the flu', and see if they are putting their money where their mouths are.

My pantry and ammo shelves were stocked long ago. This is less than the annual flu. But, “we” try to predict the next annual flu, develop a shot for it, and suggest those susceptible to flu get the shot.

Wuhan virus is unknown, so no shot. And new and unusual, and scary. Particularly to the masses of people that just looked up from Snapchat and Tictoc and said “WTF? I gotta get TP.”

I'm sitting in the Tampa Airport, waiting for my flight to take me home to Virginia. The crowds are lighter than usual (in my experience), but it's not a ghost town, either.

When I return home, I need to go get fresh food, as I left the fridge bare of perishables. I'm okay with inedibles (toilet paper, soap, etc.), but I will need food. I subscribe to Hello Fresh, so I'm getting up to six meals home delivered, so I'm pretty well set.

I keep waiting for the news media to find a new crisis to focus on so we can move on from this hysteria.

I have no extra anything. If I really need food, I can drop a deer out back. I don’t get why folks are preparing for anything.

There is no interruption to supply. Do you really think the government is going to shut down water treatment plants? That’s stupid. No one needs to be buying bottled water. I mean, do what you want, but your faucet will keep working.

I did stock up on outdoor stuff though. We went yesterday and got roller blades and a basketball hoop for the kids. With a 3 week spring break my wife wants them outside! The streets were business as usual around here. Stores have everything except TP.

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Yeah, they’re also dying at a faster rate than we are at the moment, but that’s because of their lousy healthcare systems

Huh... Our horrible evil healthcare system that must be changed.... Is better?

Whaddayaknow....

[QUOTE]Originally posted by esdunbar:
If I really need food, I can drop a deer out back{/QUOTE]

If you're sick you can't do jack shit

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

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Yeah, they’re also dying at a faster rate than we are at the moment, but that’s because of their lousy healthcare systems

Huh... Our horrible evil healthcare system that must be changed.... Is better?

Whaddayaknow....

Stop and ask yourself this. When have you ever heard anyone say, “You know, I have this horrible disease. I think I’m going to Italy to get it treated”.

Undoubtedly, you’ll have some in this thread come to explain away their poor health care.

Italy has become the battle cry of the hystericals. They just can’t seem
To wrap their heads around the US isn’t Italy.

Italy is the crown jewel of their argument of why you should be terrified. The only lesson learned here is don’t go to Italy if you need medical care......

[QUOTE]Originally posted by esdunbar:
If I really need food, I can drop a deer out back/QUOTE]

If you're sick you can't do jack shit

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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

I'd like to see the pantries and ammo shelves of the people who say 'this is just like the flu', and see if they are putting their money where their mouths are.

My pantry and ammo shelves were stocked long ago. This is less than the annual flu. But, “we” try to predict the next annual flu, develop a shot for it, and suggest those susceptible to flu get the shot.

Wuhan virus is unknown, so no shot. And new and unusual, and scary. Particularly to the masses of people that just looked up from Snapchat and Tictoc and said “WTF? I gotta get TP.”

Less than annual flu? In shear numbers maybe, but not in chances of dying for it. There is no TamiCOVID-19 yet, no inoculation. With a CFR of 2-7% so far, this is nothing like the flu.

Look at Italy for instance. Of their resolved cases, 42% resulted in death (down from yesterday, and will continue to drop). That's pretty scary to me. 1/20 chance of needing intensive care, 1/7 of needing hospital care outside of the ICU.

https://www.worldometers.info/...virus/country/italy/

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

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Yeah, they’re also dying at a faster rate than we are at the moment, but that’s because of their lousy healthcare systems

Huh... Our horrible evil healthcare system that must be changed.... Is better?

Whaddayaknow....

Stop and ask yourself this. When have you ever heard anyone say, “You know, I have this horrible disease. I think I’m going to Italy to get it treated”.

No bro, you got it all wrong. I'm going to China or Venezuela for treatment... Maybe North Korea..? IDK...

State in the Florida Panhandle seems fine, went to pick up the weekly portion of dairy for the kids - we go through about 3/4-1 gallon of milk a day when the whole family is here, so that 5-7 gallons for the week.

No problem getting that, although the dairy aisle wasn't full stocked.

Uncooked Chicken was hard to find, a couple of crappy packs - plenty of beef / pork / seafood.

Everything else was pretty much full except TP, which was "1 pack of shit-paper per person" - there was plenty to be had but it was about 50-60% stocked.

Of course the old fat dude in the SEAL T-shirt had to be a dick and berate the checkout girl why it was "1 per TP" a couple aisle over.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

Look at Italy for instance. Of their resolved cases, 42% resulted in death (down from yesterday, and will continue to drop). That's pretty scary to me. 1/20 chance of needing intensive care, 1/7 of needing hospital care outside of the ICU.

https://www.worldometers.info/...virus/country/italy/

Of course it will do more than come down, it will come WAAAAAY down when all those 'mild cases' have an 'outcome'.

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Originally posted by esdunbar:
I have no extra anything. If I really need food, I can drop a deer out back. I don’t get why folks are preparing for anything.

There is no interruption to supply. Do you really think the government is going to shut down water treatment plants? That’s stupid. No one needs to be buying bottled water. I mean, do what you want, but your faucet will keep working.

I did stock up on outdoor stuff though. We went yesterday and got roller blades and a basketball hoop for the kids. With a 3 week spring break my wife wants them outside! The streets were business as usual around here. Stores have everything except TP.

Good luck to you. I hope you and your family stay safe. My advice to people is to buy an excess of things you normally use. If you normally have two jars of sauce in the house make it 4. The same with cereal, soups, pasta, etc. If you have it and already use it won't go to waste, but IF your family needs it they have it.

Bottled water is smart to have as well. Do I anticipate something happen to shut it down because of this? No, but it is wise to store a few cases for emergencies in general. Remember when the algae toxin got into the water supply in one of the Midwest states a few years back? I think the chances are low there will be an interruption in the next few weeks, but not enough to leave my family unprepared.

You were smart to get things for activities as well. Hopefully you all make it through this safe.