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I see that REVENGE may be coming for Richard Nixon! Wink
 
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How this plays out will show if the Obamas feel like covering for her or if they really want to throw her to the wolves.
Who are they closer to, her or Biden?


I'm thinking Obummer will sacrifice her soon. There is bad blood between them and he wants to leave office with this crap way not even getting close to him.

Just my humble opinion.

Mark


I don't know if he can. His administration is complicit at the least. She purposely violated rules, agreements she had signed, and laws. It's impossible to make the case that no one at the white house knew about it, yet they did nothing. This is the biggest gov't scandal in US history. Or it should be.

Look at them slapping down Gen Petreus, and he only disclosed some minor information to someone that was writing his biography, didn't cause reams of classified information to be compromised, didn't violate several federal laws, didn't violate several federal rules.

How can anyone think that Hildabeast should be excused or not charged and end up in prison?
 
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As long as the Justice Department is in the control of Attorney General Whatzername, Congress will be largely impotent, other than whatever hell they raise in public opinion, because their contempt citations are handled by the Justice Department.

The U.S. District Judge may be a bigger problem for her. Contempt, perjury, and worse.

Why would we believe that particular judge is immune to adversarial influence from the Clinton machine ? What are the chances he may come through, or is it more the result of some kind of political/judicial puffery ? Aren't judges in high places generally politicians as well ?




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Kadin and wrightd,

You really need to take off your tin foil hats.

Hillary is not as powerful as conservatives like to think. If she was, she would be president right now, not Obama.

There was the same air of inevitability going into the 2008 election. And then some junior Senator from Illinois rolled right over her.

Hillary is hated by many Democrats. Both my wife and my mother-in-law, both life-long Democrats, have stated that they hate her and wold never vote for her.

Her political handlers know that Hillary's biggest weakness is herself. The more she talks, the less people like her.

Her political handlers have tried very hard to keep her away from the press and to choreograph every question she is asked. And to the MSM's credit, they are tired of it and are beginning to bite back.

The sharks smell blood in the water. She run through Iowa and New Hampshire and most likely drop out after that.

Face it, she took money from Trump also. It is going to hard for her to wash that off come Primary season.
 
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As long as the Justice Department is in the control of Attorney General Whatzername, Congress will be largely impotent, other than whatever hell they raise in public opinion, because their contempt citations are handled by the Justice Department.

The U.S. District Judge may be a bigger problem for her. Contempt, perjury, and worse.

Why would we believe that particular judge is immune to adversarial influence from the Clinton machine ? What are the chances he may come through, or is it more the result of some kind of political/judicial puffery ? Aren't judges in high places generally politicians as well ?


They don't have to run for re-election, their jobs are held for life during good behavior.

Some may be sensitive to maybe being promoted to a higher court, but other then that, they have little to be afraid of, except getting a reputation for punch pulling. Except for aberrations like Alcee Hastings, impeached and removed from office for bribery, they are a fairly solid lot. Of course, they bring to their office the attitudes and prejudices and values they happen to have, but most of them take a certain amount of pride in being fair, just, proper, etc. You don't want to be on the wrong side of one of these people. They can be very tough, especially if they get the idea somebody is trying to spew sunshine up their butt.

When they issue an order, they expect it to be complied with, and can make life miserable for someone who is resisting them. I'm waiting to see that hearing down in Brownsville where the judge has order the top guys to be present. He has become a bit tight jawed with what has happened, and somebody better get serious.

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Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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I haven't read 5 pages of posts, so maybe this has already been mentioned.

When you send and receive e-mails, you generally know where you're sending it, and you can see where it's come from.
Should the people that sent classified e-mails to an unsecure address be worried? Wouldn't they have read and signed the same paperwork about e-mail security?

If Hilly screwed up, a whole bunch of other people did too. Is the fertilizer fixin to hit the ventilator?
 
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When you send and receive e-mails, you generally know where you're sending it, and you can see where it's come from.Should the people that sent classified e-mails to an unsecure address be worried? Wouldn't they have read and signed the same paperwork about e-mail security? If Hilly screwed up, a whole bunch of other people did too. Is the fertilizer fixin to hit the ventilator?



Well, Yes;
At least four of Clinton’s assistants at the Department of State (all of whom also currently work for her or the Clinton Slush Fund) have not yet turned over their emails sent to the Clinton Server and received from there while in government service as required by law.

Each one of these “assistants” has hired a different Big Name D.C. law firm to represent them.

Sooner or later Counsel will advise one of them to hand over the documents, before the other rats abandon ship. The last out of the gate could easily end up screwed.

Does this mean Clinton is nailed, no, the Democrats protect their own. But her hopes of becoming POTUS are fading fast.
 
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I haven't read 5 pages of posts, so maybe this has already been mentioned.

When you send and receive e-mails, you generally know where you're sending it, and you can see where it's come from.
Should the people that sent classified e-mails to an unsecure address be worried? Wouldn't they have read and signed the same paperwork about e-mail security?

If Hilly screwed up, a whole bunch of other people did too. Is the fertilizer fixin to hit the ventilator?


She was the captain of that ship, in charge, responsible for its operations, with the power and duty to comply with all laws and regulations. She didn't set up the server, but she certainly ordered it done and had plenty of advice about how it would be done and what it could do.

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Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Drudge recently posted this headline on their web-site, but no link to story yet -

"MYSTERY: Small, 13-year-old Denver tech company managed tens of thousands of Hillary emails... Developing..."

Let's hope the FBI gets to them before shrillary's operatives do.


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I'm really starting to think this could kill off her candidacy. I don't know how I feel about that.

Do I want here in there but wounded, still likely to get the nomination, but maybe able to recover? Or do I want her out, meaning the Dems lose their presumptive front runner, with the possibility that it starts a free for all on the Dem side that results in a viable candidate?
 
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I don't know how I feel about that.
We'll create a focus group and bring in a team of consultants, and we'll let you know how you feel.
 
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Do I want here in there but wounded, still likely to get the nomination, but maybe able to recover? Or do I want her out, meaning the Dems lose their presumptive front runner, with the possibility that it starts a free for all on the Dem side that results in a viable candidate?


I am with you here.

Ideally her campaign would drag on until next summer and then blow up and burn out in a sizzling mess right after her official nomination at the convention.

Confusion to our enemies!

Realistically I think we may see a few more months before collapse. Hoorah for Biden, Double hoorah for Kerry!
 
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Drudge hasn't updated with link yet, but I think he is talking about this:

http://denver.cbslocal.com/201...lary-clinton-emails/

FBI Visits Denver Company Regarding Hillary Clinton Emails

DENVER (CBS4) – A Colorado company is now a part of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email system. The FBI is looking into the security of the server she used while she was secretary of state.

A Denver company called Platte River Networks was handling the email of the secretary of state of the U.S., but it wasn’t a government account. It was a private account and it’s raising questions about security.

Last week FBI agents visited Platte River Networks which was involved in handling the Clinton email accounts. Sources related to that visit told CBS4 Investigator Rick Sallinger the company has been asked to preserve any information related to the emails involving Bill and Hillary Clinton.

The company’s website lists awards including for being among the best Colorado businesses and places to work. But Metro State University Assistant Professor of Computer Information Systems Dr. Edgar Maldonado says there are questions about what security protocols were in place.

“I would say it’s not the best choice,” Maldonado said.

The FBI would not comment on its contact with the Denver company.

The inspector general for the intelligence community had been looking into the Clinton emails. It then made a referral to the justice department which led to the FBI visit.

One issue is whether Platte River Networks could have backup copies of Clinton emails that were deleted. Classified information has reportedly been found on the private server in her home.

“i did not email any classified material,” Hillary Clinton said.

CBS4 sought a comment from Platte River Networks, but the company indicated it would have nothing to say. At this point the FBI is in the information gathering stage.

Despite the visit by the FBI, there is no formal investigation at this time. They are just trying to determine if one is warranted.



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I don't know how I feel about that.
We'll create a focus group and bring in a team of consultants, and we'll let you know how you feel.
 
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I'm really starting to think this could kill off her candidacy. I don't know how I feel about that.



Yeah. Last time, our "Anybody But Hillary" prayers were answered all right.

Biden is too old, older than Reagan. Who else they got? Kerry? Can you see Kerry and Trump going round and round? Bernie Sanders is older than Biden.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Perp walk Hillary.

Time to hit that Reset Button, Hil!!
 
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I'm really starting to think this could kill off her candidacy. I don't know how I feel about that.



Yeah. Last time, our "Anybody But Hillary" prayers were answered all right.

Biden is too old, older than Reagan. Who else they got? Kerry? Can you see Kerry and Trump going round and round? Bernie Sanders is older than Biden.


I agree. who would they run? Indian Chief Elizabeth? John "Let's Make a Deal" Kerry? Will they go for broke and award Baaaarrrccckkk a third term.

Let the shit fall where it may. Let's cook Hilary's goose while the fire is hot.

RMD




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I would hate to be a close Clinton staffer when they decided to turn over the server, plus have all this info coming out about emails, sinking poll numbers, Hillary exploding would probably make that Chinese explosion look like a firecracker.


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Looks like Hillary really will get an opportunity to corkscrew right into the ground while under heavy fire.

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I'm really starting to think this could kill off her candidacy. I don't know how I feel about that.
I do.

 
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