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Weren't there two investigations? What happened to the influence peddling Clinton Foundation investigation?


This is probably Obama's ace in the hole to keep her in line.
 
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My $0.02:

Given the number of classified emails she no doubt received during her tenure, there is *NO* way a competent person would not wonder, "Gee, that email should be/could be classified, therefore I shouldn't be receiving it on an uncleared device". I could see this happening by accident two or three times. But given the number of classified emails, *NO* way would a competent person NOT wonder about it. It doesn't matter if it was actually classified or not, she should have reported it and gotten an official ruling that the email was OK or not. The fact that she apparently did not, means she either willfully ignored the rules, or is incompetent to handle classified information. PERIOD.

I would like to see someone raise the following questions, of someone in authority during a public press conference:

1) Was Hillary's clearance suspended while she was under investigation? If not, what is the normal procedure when issues like this are under investigation?

2) Given now that the FBI has publicly stated "Extreme Carelessness" was involved, will Hillary's clearance now be suspended? Will it be renewed the next time it is up for regularly scheduled review? What is the standard procedure in situations like this when people have been proven to be "extremely careless" in handling classified information?

3) Assuming her clearance will not be revoked, what will take place to ensure this situation will not happen again with Hillary's handling of classified information?


You are assuming she had a clearance in the traditional sense of the word. Political appointees and elected officials don't go through the same process we do.


Do you know this for a fact or are you speculating?


elected officials are given an oath, not to give up classified information, Cabinet members are given a different background investigation than others. https://www.quora.com/How-ofte...t-security-clearance.




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Hillary just announced that her VP pick is-- OJ Simpson!


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http://thehill.com/

Federal officials may not use private email accounts to get around public records laws, a federal judge ruled on Tuesday.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit overturned a lower court decision in which judges dismissed claims from the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI), a conservative think tank that attempted to obtain correspondence from a top White House official through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

The White House’s Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) said it did not need to search for or turn over records held by the head of the OSTP on a private email account as part of the open records request.

In addition to official White House email, John Holdren, the director of the OSTP, also sent and received emails from a domain at the Woods Hole Research Center.

Throughout the case, the government argued that “[d]ocuments on a nongovernmental email server are outside the possession or control of federal agencies, and thus beyond the scope of FOIA.”

Judge David Sentelle, the chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, disagreed with that reasoning and ordered the lower court to reconsider the case.

“If a department head can deprive the citizens of their right to know what his department is up to by the simple expedient of maintaining his departmental emails on an account in another domain, that purpose is hardly served,” Sentelle wrote.

“It would make as much sense to say that the department head could deprive requestors of hard-copy documents by leaving them in a file at his daughter’s house and then claiming that they are under her control,” he said.

While Holdren did forward some of his work-related emails from his private email account to his government one — yielding 110 pages of responsive documents in the FOIA request — Sentelle said the agency still had to do a search to ensure no other undisclosed records remained in the account.

The case is not yet final and has been remanded for further proceedings.

CEI applauded the ruling on Tuesday.

“While today’s ruling is a major victory for government transparency, it’s stunning that it takes a court decision for federal employees to be held accountable to the law,” said Marlo Lewis, CEI senior fellow, in a statement. “The ‘most transparent administration in history’ has proven over and over that it has no intention of actually letting the American public know what it is doing. Just think, if today’s ruling had gone the other way, the implication would be that all government business could be transacted on private email and be invisible to citizens, completely gutting FOIA – absurd!"

"Director Holdren is not the first agency head to be found using private email for his government work, but as we continue our legal battle in this case, we seek for this unlawful behavior to come to an end," Lewis added.

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So Comey laid out the basis for a prosecution then said he can't prosecute. Pure politics and a huge FUCK YOU TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
 
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No, what he said is he needed intent and couldn't find any.
 
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No, what he said is he needed intent and couldn't find any.


And you, showpro, brilliant as you are, are buying that load of horseshit.


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No, what he said is he needed intent and couldn't find any.


He most certainly did not say that in his correct recitation of the law.

Then he spelled out, in some detail, evidence of myriad examples of gross negligence and acts undertaken with constructive knowledge, in violation of said law.

Finally, he said FBI was not recommending charges because they did not find evidence of intent - not because they needed it.

DO NOT PARAPHRASE INACCURATELY. Playing fast and loose with language is how the left performs their best spin.

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Comey's brief is on video here:

http://hotair.com/archives/201...era-questions-at-11/

Incredible given what he says are the facts, then he says the recommendation is "no charges".

I hope I never read another post of how honorable Comey is and that the FBI will do the right thing. Bullshit.

Sad day for America. We need to elect Trump and do a massive house cleaning of all federal agencies.
 
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The same FBI investigated the Orlando shooter...and found nothing wrong.
 
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No, what he said is he needed intent and couldn't find any.



So, you are saying if there is no intent, there is no crime? How many drunk drivers intended to kill someone?




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Some people have the spotlight of history pointed at them and step into the light.

Others, like Comey, choose to duck into the shadows.

He may be an "honorable man," but he is also a coward.




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Comey couldn't find intent. Roberts realized that Obamacare was a tax. Cowards and traitors.


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Trump donation sent...

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With corruption so blatantly evident at all levels of our government (there just went the FBI, like the DOJ under Holder, the VA, the IRS, the EPA, the FED, Homeland Security/TSA, Fannie/Freddie, State Dept. etc. etc. ad nauseum ad infinitum), ... how can you trust the .gov on any ballot count or electoral college in November?


You also see it at the local and State level. Some are in it only for their 20 year retirement and I even had one of them tell me that.

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Some people have the spotlight of history pointed at them and step into the light.

Others, like Comey, choose to duck into the shadows.

He may be an "honorable man," but he is also a coward.


An honorable man would have done the right thing.




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I don't think this is a bad thing for Trump. Had she been prosecuted we run the risk of the commies tossing in someone who might win. Plus now even more Americans are pissed the fuck off to use the technical term.



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So, you are saying if there is no intent, there is no crime?


Nobody has said that (except people misquoting Comey).

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I don't think this is a bad thing for Trump. Had she been prosecuted we run the risk of the commies tossing in someone who might win. Plus now even more Americans are pissed the fuck off to use the technical term.


This is a good point. Had Joe Biden stepped in, he would have gotten a groundswell of support from Democrats and Independents who were just relieved and happy to have the witch out of the race. Make no mistake: She is a weak candidate.

What happened just underscores the corruption of the Clintons. Yes, most Democrats don't give a shit, or even like it. But many are repulsed. I checked out Huffington post, and the overwhelming majority of comments rejoiced. But even there, in that commie hotbed, there were a few who said that this stinks.


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