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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by PD:

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
If the recommendation is to prosecute and she decides not to, no problem. If she agrees and decides to take Hillary to the Grand Jury, Clinton operatives will raise the conflict of interest, a violation of a Code of Federal Regulations, to force her recusal. Someone else will have to decide.

Are you saying Loretta just got played by Bill? Can you elaborate on that?

With Lynch recusing herself, the question now is who played who.

The pressure on this deal must be excruciating, damned if you do, damned if you don't, and now she is free of it.

Maybe the Clintons know full well the career professionals who are handling this are all Democrats anyway.

Bill has to be a little desperate to ask for that meeting.
Obviously, they tried to keep anyone from finding out about it.
Perhaps.... control is slipping away from the fingertips of the Clintons?

Slick Willie could be fishing for immunity for him and / or Chelsea

We could possibly be looking at the biggest political corruption story in the history of our country, and many (most ?) people are acting like this is a nothing burger

The Clinton Foundation has 2000 employees.

It has taken in 2 billions dollars.

http://hotair.com/archives/201...lintonlynch-meeting/

The FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of private email as secretary of state has expanded to look at whether the possible “intersection” of Clinton Foundation work and State Department business may have violated public corruption laws, three intelligence sources not authorized to speak on the record told Fox News.

This new investigative track is in addition to the focus on classified material found on Clinton’s personal server.

“The agents are investigating the possible intersection of Clinton Foundation donations, the dispensation of State Department contracts and whether regular processes were followed,” one source said.

the day after the surreptitious meeting in Phoenix, Lynch’s Justice Department informed a judge they were going to drag their feet on the release of emails connecting the former president’s foundation and the State Department

Department of Justice officials filed a motion in federal court late Wednesday seeking a 27-month delay in producing correspondence between former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s four top aides and officials with the Clinton Foundation and Teneo Holdings, a closely allied public relations firm that Bill Clinton helped launch.

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Interesting development.

TIn foil hat time. If they are going to let Hillary skate in the face of a recommendation to prosecute, then they would need a political appointee to make that decision. Of course they would be loathe to do it because of all the flack they would get. So perhaps the fix is in and they have guaranteed that no recommendation to prosecute will be made. That way, there is no need for a political hack to make a blatantly political call to pass on the recommendation. Lynch then says she will recuse herself from a decision she was never going to have to make. She and Obama get to take credit for getting politics out of the process all the while knowing what the outcome will be.

Of course, I could be wrong. I would much rather believe an indictment is coming!

I hope you're wrong but your scenario is very plausible.

The optimistic tin foil hat scenario is that the administration has learned that the FBI will recommend prosecution. Now Obama hates the Clintons, but the one thing he hates more is Republicans. So he would be willing to take the heat and let Clinton walk if he thought she was there only chance at keeping the White House. But now he calculates that Trump is weak enough that he can be beaten by Biden, Sanders or whoever the Dems pick to run in Hillary's place, so he feels free to stick it to Hillary while getting some credit for taking politics out of the decision.

Whatever is going on behind the scenes, with this administration the one thing we can be sure of is that they are not doing this just because it's the proper and ethical thing to do. There is some grand political scheme behind this.

I think an important question has been missed. If the meeting between Lynch and Bill was "social", then what I want to know is do they even know each other. How often have they met in the past? Have they ever met socially before? Are they long-time friends or not? Those answers would go a long way towards either supporting or killing the claim that it was purely social.

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Originally posted by Kadin:
I think an important question has been missed. If the meeting between Lynch and Bill was "social", then what I want to know is do they even know each other. How often have they met in the past? Have they ever met socially before? Are they long-time friends or not? Those answers would go a long way towards either supporting or killing the claim that it was purely social.

I don't think they know each other, but Bill never misses a chance to get some intel on people's granddaughters .

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Originally posted by sdy:
We could possibly be looking at the biggest political corruption story in the history of our country, and many (most ?) people are acting like this is a nothing burger

The Clinton Foundation has 2000 employees.
It has taken in 2 billions dollars.

Well... no one here thinks it's a nothing burger.
The press, OTOH, ... is a branch of the Democrat party and willing to stick their heads in the sand and pretend it's a nothing burger.
But... if the dam breaks and the Dems think they can't win with Hillary the press may turn on her and then that nothing burger becomes a BIG MAC, a WHOPPER, a BIG BUFORD.

They know each other...

"In 1999, she was nominated by President Bill Clinton to serve as the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York.[10] During her term as U.S. Attorney, Lynch oversaw prosecution of New York City police officers in the Abner Louima case."

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The email stuff is relatively small potatoes compared to the pay for play scheme run through the Clinton Foundation. Slick Willie got on that plane in Phoenix out of pure desperation. I expect that he is prepared to throw everyone in DC under the bus to keep this from blowing up and may have gotten on the plane to spell out his end game to Lynch should things go south for his family. I don't see the Clintons going down quietly and this summer could be a blood bath that kids will read about in history books for generations.

A Big Buford? Dang

The Fox report, above, is very interesting. It is the first time Herriage has said anything about an investigation of the Clinton Foundation. And now suddenly, she has three sources.

If the FBI found the money donated to the Clinton Foundation influenced Hillary and her subordinates actions at state, that's bad enough, but odds are will not result in criminal prosecution. If on the other hand, they find foreign countries donated money to the foundation and that money was funneled to the Clintons themselves, that would be a big deal.

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A Big Buford? Dang

I'd rather it be a big Kahuna burger. That's that Hawaiian burger joint. I hear they got some tasty burgers. I ain't never had one myself.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
[QUOTE]Ms. Lynch said that the meeting with Mr. Clinton was unplanned, largely social and did not touch on the email investigation. She suggested that he walked uninvited from his plane to her government plane, both of which were parked on a tarmac at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport.

Convenient, that. Isn't it? Two planes, happened to be parked at the same airport, nearly next to each other, what are the chances?

And it didn't touch on the email scandal... Well, how about the corruption investigation that is part of the email scandal, did it touch on that?

This is all very good news! Her backing out of this only means that she's trying to save her own ass.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
The Fox report, above, is very interesting. It is the first time Herriage has said anything about an investigation of the Clinton Foundation. And now suddenly, she has three sources.

If the FBI found the money donated to the Clinton Foundation influenced Hillary and her subordinates actions at state, that's bad enough, but odds are will not result in criminal prosecution. If on the other hand, they find foreign countries donated money to the foundation and that money was funneled to the Clintons themselves, that would be a big deal.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
A Big Buford? Dang

I'd rather it be a big Kahuna burger. That's that Hawaiian burger joint. I hear they got some tasty burgers. I ain't never had one myself.

Isn't the information is that the money from foreigners was laundered through a foundation in Canada run by the uranium guy.

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Interesting development.

TIn foil hat time. If they are going to let Hillary skate in the face of a recommendation to prosecute, then they would need a political appointee to make that decision. Of course they would be loathe to do it because of all the flack they would get. So perhaps the fix is in and they have guaranteed that no recommendation to prosecute will be made. That way, there is no need for a political hack to make a blatantly political call to pass on the recommendation. Lynch then says she will recuse herself from a decision she was never going to have to make. She and Obama get to take credit for getting politics out of the process all the while knowing what the outcome will be.

Of course, I could be wrong. I would much rather believe an indictment is coming!

I hope you're wrong but your scenario is very plausible.

The optimistic tin foil hat scenario is that the administration has learned that the FBI will recommend prosecution. Now Obama hates the Clintons, but the one thing he hates more is Republicans. So he would be willing to take the heat and let Clinton walk if he thought she was there only chance at keeping the White House. But now he calculates that Trump is weak enough that he can be beaten by Biden, Sanders or whoever the Dems pick to run in Hillary's place, so he feels free to stick it to Hillary while getting some credit for taking politics out of the decision.

Whatever is going on behind the scenes, with this administration the one thing we can be sure of is that they are not doing this just because it's the proper and ethical thing to do. There is some grand political scheme behind this.

My tinfoil hat tells me Obama will do whatever his handlers tell him. Not sure who they are but confident they exist.

Here's the live feed of Lynch in Colorado. I don't know how to imbed this video.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/255...ival/?#sp=watch-live

She says unequivocally that the DOJ will follow the FBI's findings and recommendations.

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Originally posted by Wayniac:
They know each other...

"In 1999, she was nominated by President Bill Clinton to serve as the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York.[10] During her term as U.S. Attorney, Lynch oversaw prosecution of New York City police officers in the Abner Louima case."

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That doesn't mean they know each other socially or that they were friends.

And I agree with other posters that the email scandal should be the smaller story here. The bigger story is the korrupt Klinton Kash scheme. Selling influence to foreign governments and individuals to enrich their own pockets. But both issues point unerringly to them being willing to do anything, endanger our country and policies, for self-enrichment and self-interest.

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With Lynch recusing herself, the question now is who played who.

Did she actually use the word "recuse"? I read that she said she would "accept" the recommendations; she did not say she would "act" upon them.

Parse the language. They are experts (all of them Dems and Republicans) at trickery and double-talk.

Recuse? I wish!

RMD

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Originally posted by rduckwor:

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With Lynch recusing herself, the question now is who played who.

Did she actually use the word "recuse"? I read that she said she would "accept" the recommendations; she did not say she would "act" upon them.

Parse the language. They are experts (all of them Dems and Republicans) at trickery and double-talk.

Recuse? I wish!

RMD

I just watched the live feed linked above.

She said that she is not going to "recuse" herself, but she did state that the DOJ will follow whatever the FBI recommendations are.

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Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:

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Originally posted by rduckwor:

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With Lynch recusing herself, the question now is who played who.

Did she actually use the word "recuse"? I read that she said she would "accept" the recommendations; she did not say she would "act" upon them.

Parse the language. They are experts (all of them Dems and Republicans) at trickery and double-talk.

Recuse? I wish!

RMD

I just watched the live feed linked above.

She said that she is not going to "recuse" herself, but she did state that the DOJ will follow whatever the FBI recommendations are.

Well, that is a small cause for optimism. I, for one, will not be holding my breath.

These bastards make Nixon look like a Presbyterian Sunday school teacher.

RMD

From the U. S. Attorneys Manual (https://www.justice.gov/usam/usam-3-2000-united-states-attorneys-ausas-special-assistants-and-agac):

3-2.170 - Recusals

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When United States Attorneys, or their offices, become aware of an issue that could require a recusal in a criminal or civil matter or case as a result of a personal interest or professional relationship with parties involved in the matter, they must contact General Counsel's Office (GCO), EOUSA. The requirement of recusal does not arise in every instance, but only where a conflict of interest exists or there is an appearance of a conflict of interest or loss of impartiality.

Emphasis mine.