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What if she wins the election but the FBI formally reccomends that charges be brought before she is inaugurated. Then WTH happens?

Zippy will claim that the people have spoken and chosen her as their President, so he will pardon her.

Can we just let the FBI do their job without thinking about stuff that hasn't happened or getting our panties in wad until then? It's all speculation until then. No one, not a single media source, is running off the deep end with conjecture and imagined thoughts like this thread.

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Zippy will claim that the people have spoken and chosen her as their President, so he will pardon her.

Ixnay on the ardonpay.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
Can we just let the FBI do their job without thinking about stuff that hasn't happened or getting our panties in wad until then? It's all speculation until then. No one, not a single media source, is running off the deep end with conjecture and imagined thoughts like this thread.

I don't know. I'm kind of curious about this myself. I don't think that it will happen, but I am curious as to what the procedure would be, what the law says would happen. I would assume the VP would be sworn in as president, but I don't know.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
What is going on with Comey's investigation of Hillary? Is it typical of an FBI investigation to go on and on and on and on? The man is aware that there is national primary going on for the presidency, and the woman he is investigating is the presumptive nominee--right? He knows that a recommendation that she be indicted would affect her candidacy-- right? And yet-- it drags on interminably.

Seriously, is this investigation of Hillary within the time boundaries of what ordinarily happens in a major FBI investigation?

Personally, I'm hoping Comey is waiting for the Democrat Convention to let out his findings and recommendation. That would be a terrific bombshell to drop at exactly that moment.

My fantasy is that Comey waits until October to make her look unelectable.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
Can we just let the FBI do their job without thinking about stuff that hasn't happened or getting our panties in wad until then? It's all speculation until then. No one, not a single media source, is running off the deep end with conjecture and imagined thoughts like this thread.

I don't know. I'm kind of curious about this myself. I don't think that it will happen, but I am curious as to what the procedure would be, what the law says would happen. I would assume the VP would be sworn in as president, but I don't know.

I'll play for a second.

If she wins the election and she's indicted, nothing happens to her as a matter of law. An indictment is just another word for "alleged misconduct" and it carries no more legal weight than you getting a parking ticket. Signing the ticket doesn't mean you're guilty and being indicted only means charges have been filed.

Nothing in the Consitution says once a president or president elect is indicted that they must step down and the VP takes over. Any president or person is allowed to defend themself, just like Nixon could have or Clinton himself and until the last gavel cracks, it's just allegations.

Unless Hillary wants to step down for the good of the country, nothing happens to her or the presidency, should she win.

Squat, jack shit, nada, zip and zilch is what happens.

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Nothing in the Consitution says once a president or president elect is indicted that they must step down and the VP takes over. Any president or person is allowed to defend themself, just like Nixon could have or Clinton himself and until the last gravel cracks, it's just allegations.

Impeachment would be the procedure IIRC my civics classes. Nixon resigned when it looked like they might begin, then Ford pardoned him preventing any further legal action.

Clinton survived proceedings to impeach him.

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On January 7, 1999, in a congressional procedure not seen since the 1868 impeachment trial of President Andrew Johnson, the trial of President Clinton got underway in the Senate. As instructed in Article 1 of the U.S. Constitution, the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court (William Rehnquist at this time) was sworn in to preside, and the senators were sworn in as jurors.

Five weeks later, on February 12, the Senate voted on whether to remove Clinton from office. The president was acquitted on both articles of impeachment. The prosecution needed a two-thirds majority to convict but failed to achieve even a bare majority. Rejecting the first charge of perjury, 45 Democrats and 10 Republicans voted “not guilty,” and on the charge of obstruction of justice the Senate was split 50-50. After the trial concluded, President Clinton said he was “profoundly sorry” for the burden his behavior imposed on Congress and the American people.

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Clinton survived proceedings to impeach him.

You understand why.

The Republicans in their zeal to hang Clinton out to dry started the investigation and it slid past January 20, 1998. After that date, had Clinton been removed from office, AlGore would have become President and eligible for two more terms.

Nobody wanted that. They were lucky some of the Dems didn't join in the guilty vote.

The Dems were pretty well sick of Slick Willy, his word was worthless, etc.

It probably worked out for the best, actually.

JAllen,

I do remember.

Proof the adage I once heard, 'the VP is impeachment insurance,'

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Impeachment would be the procedure IIRC my civics classes. Nixon resigned when it looked like they might begin, then Ford pardoned him preventing any further legal action.

Clinton survived proceedings to impeach him.

Bill Clinton was impeached. He was not convicted by the Senate.

The only number that mattered to him then, and the only number that matters to Hillary is 34. It takes 67 votes (2/3) in the Senate to convict. Finding 34 corrupt Democratic Senators is not exactly a tall task.

Remember Hillary is the one who procured the 900 FBI files during Bill's first year in office. I'll bet more than 34 of them were Senators. She had dirt on everyone who was anyone. Some of them are still in the Senate.

"A State Department audit has faulted Hillary Clinton and previous secretaries of state for poorly managing email and other computer information and slowly responding to new cybersecurity risks.

The Associated Press obtained a copy of the report by the agency's inspector general Wednesday.

It cites "longstanding, systemic weaknesses" related to communications. These started before Clinton's appointment as secretary of state, but her failures were singled out as more serious.

The review came after revelations Clinton exclusively used a private email account and server while in office. Clinton is now the likely Democratic presidential nominee.

The 78-page report says the department and its secretaries were "slow to recognize and to manage effectively the legal requirements and cybersecurity risks associated with electronic data communications, particularly as those risks pertain to its most senior leadership." http://www.foxnews.com/politic...se.html?intcmp=hpbt2

I will bet dollars to donuts that other SecStates did not set up a private server then lie to hide the fact that they did not want .gov to know what they were up to.

RMD

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It cites "longstanding, systemic weaknesses" related to communications. These started before Clinton's appointment as secretary of state, but her failures were singled out as more serious.

This is an attempted whitewash of Clinton along the lines of "they all did it, so why blame Hillary".

Previous Secretaries did not have private servers and handle all of their privileged communications outside of the official system, only Hillary did this.

That shit isn't going to fool or dissuade the FBI.

Nice try, and fully expected.

She and her underlings violate Federal law and the headlines are that the audit "faults" her. How about a few years at a Federal country club?

"18 U.S. Code § 641 - Public money, property or records

Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof; or

Whoever receives, conceals, or retains the same with intent to convert it to his use or gain, knowing it to have been embezzled, stolen, purloined or converted—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; but if the value of such property in the aggregate, combining amounts from all the counts for which the defendant is convicted in a single case, does not exceed the sum of $1,000, he shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."

"she did not comply with the Department's policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act."

So if she broke the rules, she broke the law.

"Computers can be so confusing ***sigh***. In the meantime, I'll continue fighting for us." HR Clinton, 05/25/2016

In the report she tells Abedin that she wants another device to avoid FOIA:

Can't resist sharing the Hillary joke I heard today:

Hillary: I love infidelity

Bill: Me too.

Hillary: No, I was talking about Beyonce.

Bill: Me too.

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The joke was in response to Hillary's disgusting, pandering to the Beyonce voters:

Hillary Clinton Endorses Beyonce’s Infidelity Album