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I wasn't a fan of his poison Trump joke.
 
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Good grief. Take a look at CNN's website. The entire top half of the page is a black banner. You'd think a head of state died. Damn. Get a grip.


The local (leftist) radio show said; 'Dear God Anthony Bourdain died. This is a tremendous tragedy.'

Really? I thought the radio guy was going to cry.
 
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I used watch No Reservations, it was a good show.

Suicide is awful for the people left behind, I feel bad for them.




 
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Depression isn't feeling sad; its a medical condition with numerous causes and it's very, very wide spread. Suicide is up 30% over last year. There were two suicides in my son's class this year.

Unless someone has dealt with that level of depression, it may be difficult to understand that ending life is favorable to continuing it. It's a very tough place to be.

It's tragic, no matter what one thinks of the man or his politics. He's quite popular worldwide with his cooking and travel franchises, and though I won't admit it to my wife, I enjoyed watching him too. I'm very sorry to hear this happened; more than the loss itself, it's knowing how far he had to go, and what he had to go through, to get to that point. That's the real tragedy.

It's a growing problem, nation wide. If you have friend who's down, don't just assume he or she's a bit bummed out. There may be a whole lot more at play. Take it seriously. Those who are depressed certainly do.
 
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I enjoyed No Reservations, Bourdain's books were entertaining as well.

Didn't agree with his hypocrisy...err...political views but I suppose that is irrelevant now.


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I concur that despite someones politics or beliefs suicide is tragic.

That said I can't help but wonder if the mantle of the left which is unhappiness had a significant role in Bourdain's final act.



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Who cares.
Quite a few people, it seems, Mike. As members keep saying, the man's politics aside, he made some entertaining shows. I loved No Reservations. If you haven't seen it, you might want to take a look.


I will look into it.

I've never heard of him...



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RIP Bourdain. Hope he finds peace in whatever great beyond. My wife couldn't stand him in is early days on TV and I understood why she found him so grating. I read Kitchen Confidential and told her I had some bad news because the TV persona wasn't the whole man. She read the book and others and we always watched his shows. He was at time elitist and annoying and clearly tortured by demons and his own fame. I didn't agree with everything he said and there were times I thought he was trying to be a little too smart about things. His perspective was thought provoking and his take will be missed. I'll hoist a glass in his memory tonight. I hope his daughter will be able to come through this.

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I wasnt really a fan of Bourdain, though, I have watched a fair share of the episodes he was featured in. Well, when you are laid up in hospital as an inpatient, with only the TV set to keep you company, I guess, the Travel Channel is one of the most interesting things available. Either that or watch the old hospital volunteer ladies making announcements about the upcoming flower and cookie sale in the hospital courtyard!!!!Smile
So, I watched plenty of episodes featuring Bourdain, multiple times.

But, some time in 2011, after I was hospitalised for the strokes I suffered, my Uncle dropped me off downtown, and I was planning to go a local cafe and sit there, meet friends, etc. As I walked/stumbled the 2 blocks to the cafe, I saw a bunch of people at the corner of Main and W. Washington Streets. I saw a camera and some hipster looking gay dudes with manbuns, wearing skinny jeans, milling around. They told me that Bourdain was in town, and was shooting some scenes in the restaurant area of Main Street, and was I a fan? Then Bourdain himself, came out of Cafe Felix, and he walked up and said, "Hi", and shook my hand and that of a few other people who had gathered to watch a TV show being filmed. Well,I ended up being filmed for about 25 minutes, but, only about 30 seconds of that mornings filming made it onto air. You can see me for 30 seconds in the episode on Ann Arbor and other Michigan chefs were featured.

I guess, like many here, I share my disdain for the late Mr Bourdain's liberal, NY-type of attitude, but, since I was in one of his episodes, even if it was for a scant 25-30 seconds, I guess, I sort of feel sorry for him.


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He sorta reminded me of a Mike Rowe, but obviously with a different outlook on different topics...

Maybe it was his gift of writing, narrating, getting along with the common man, and inserting sexual innuendo into almost everything.

It was always a blast to watch him in No Reservations getting all boozed up. I bet he has some epic stories from all that travel.
 
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Sorry to hear of this. I used to travel a LOT when I was in the trade show business in my younger years. Bourdain's show, No Reservations would remind me of my own experiences trying new restaurants and bars in cities I had never been to before. Those experiences are one of the reasons I cook dinner almost everyday. I certainly can't afford to eat out at expensive restaurants every night unless someone else is paying the check. Politics aside, I enjoyed watching his show.
 
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Never a fan of his shows.
Odd ending but punching your own ticket isn't limited by race, color creed, status, etc...

All the same it does make a person wonder when it's someone who others envy or see as a success.



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If I understand correctly, he was using Chantix.

One of the side effects in the literature - thoughts of suicide.

He was already messed up, add this new pharmacological and who's to say?

I'm convinced psychotropics and some others like Chantix are responsible for much tragedy.

Just a thought.
 
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Suicidal thoughts; it is hard to keep the beasts contained. People can give you all the tools in the world to deal with the issue, but occasionally, the evil thoughts will break out. When they get the upper hand, you are literally in a fight for your life. Wrong place + wrong time + wrong circumstances = death.

I don't condemn anyone for suicide. Pray for them.
 
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I'm wondering why I have no idea who he is. As often as I have seen the story today, he must have been quite popular. Did he just do cooking shows?
 
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He did a travel/food show; he'd go to a city or country, travel around a bit, do some of the off-the-beaten-path stuff, talk about the food. He didn't really do tourist spots; a lot of going into the countryside and eating with people in their homes, visiting places like Beruit (while the fur is flying), even went into Iran. He went a lot of places I wouldn't, for a travel show, but he had a reputation of treating everyone the same, whether a peasant or a king; casual.

They're reviewing him on TV, and pause from time to time to put up numbers for suicide hot lines, which is appropriate.
 
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Bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness) has the highest rate of suicide of any mental illness--about 1 in 5 die of suicide.
These are the people who have the drive and energy to accomplish a great deal, but periods of depression that are black.
My family has a history of unipolar depression and a high number of suicides; and I am still suffering the loss of a friend who was bipolar and took his life a couple of years ago.
It's terribly hard on the people left behind.


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One thing I can't wrap my head around is how people who seem to be quite successful in their careers, people who have lots of drive of some sort, can completely give up.

I know/knew a couple of folks, one who attempted suicide, and one who was successful at it, and they both had more drive than I do and were much more outgoing and engaging. I guess sometimes the adage about the candle that burns the brightest is true.


The answer is quite simple DRUGS!!!!!
Be it recreational or prescribed psychiatric meds. They cause one to become complete and utterly numb to anything and everything around them.
I have worked many many a suicides and suicide attempts. I can’t remember one where the person did not use drugs recreationally or was prescribed them for some sort of psychiatric issue.

That on top of society is raising weak people. Everyone has to be the victim we are such a woe is me society.


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I was a fan of his show. Parts Unknown is extremely entertaining and interesting. I don't care about his political feelings, I don't get my underpants in a wad over such things. I guess he had his reasons for offing himself, for which we'll most likely never know. As Para once stated on here - it's a man's right to do so if he chooses. It's sad, but what can you do?


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Depression is complex & difficult to understand & treat. The book The Noonday Demon is a worthwhile read. It was initially publish in 2001, but was updated in 2015. Excerpt from the book on living with depression. It's a long passage, but may be informative. YMMV.

Regarding Bourdain, while he was an admitted liberal, he was more middle of the road regarding firearms as he wrote in Guns and Green Chile.

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As much as I’d like to wax effusively about the delights of the Frito pie, a shamefully delightful flavor bomb that pleases in equal measure to its feeling in the hand like a steaming dog turd, I suspect what people are going to talk about when they see our New Mexico episode is the sight of me; socialist sympathizer, leftie, liberal New Yorker, gleefully hammering away with an AR-15, an instrument of mayhem and loathing that also has the distinction of being America’s favorite weapon.

I like guns.

I like shooting them. I like holding their sleek, heavy, deadly weight in my hands. I like shooting at targets: cans, paper cut-outs, and—even though I’m not a hunter—the occasional animal. Though I do not own a gun—I would, if I lived in a rural area like, say…Montana—consider owning one. Whatever my feelings about gun regulation—and my worries, as a father, about what kind of world my daughter will have to live in, I think I should have as many guns as I like. Even Ted Nugent should have guns. He likes them a lot. They make him happy—and as offensive as I may find a lot of what comes out of his mouth, I’m pretty sure, based on first hand experience, that he’s a responsible gun owner.

You, however, I’m not so sure about. And my next door neighbor. I’m not so sure about him either. I’d like to know a bit more about him before he takes possession of an M-16 and a whole lot of extra clips. If we accept the proposition that that a gun is simply a tool—with potentially lethal properties—it follows that it’s not too different than a vehicle. And I would like to know a LOT more about you before I’m comfortable putting you behind the wheel of a sixteen wheeler. I’d like to know if you’re a maniacal drunk or crackhead before allowing you to barrel down that highway with three tons of trailer swinging behind you. If you favor an aluminum foil hat as headgear, I would have concerns about entrusting you with so much power to harm so many in so little time. That’s a reasonable thing for a society to ponder on, I think.

The upcoming New Mexico show is not about guns. Though there are, as in much of America between the coasts, many guns there. This show is about the American cowboy ideal, about the romantic promise of the American West, about individuality, the freedom to be weird. New Mexico, where Spanish, Mexican, Pueblo, Navajo and European cultures mix and have mixed—at times painfully, lately more easily. New Mexico, where everyone from artists, hippies, cowboys, poets, misfits, refugees, and tourists, of every political stripe have interpreted the promise of its gorgeous, wide open spaces and the freedom that that offers in their own, very different ways. New Mexico is an enchanted land, where people are largely free to create their own world.

Americans are traditionally, by nature, suspicious—and even hostile—to government. Whether we admit it or not, we were, most of us, suckled on the idea that a “man” should solve his own problems—that there are simple answers to complex questions—and that if all else fails, taking the situation into one’s own hands—violently—is somehow “cleansing” and heroic. Whether playing cowboys and Indians as a child, or watching films—those are our heroes, our icons: the lone gunman, the outlaw, the gangster, the ordinary man pushed too far. That’s a uniquely American pathology. And even the ex-flower children who’ve escaped the cities of the East to put Indian feathers in their hair, turquoise around their neck—and a battered pair of cowboy boots are, on some level, buying in to that ethos of a mythical West.

In New York, where I live, the appearance of a gun—anywhere—is a cause for immediate and extreme alarm. Yet, in much of America, I have come to find, it’s perfectly normal. I’ve walked many times into bars in Missouri, Nevada, Texas, where absolutely everyone is packing. I’ve sat down many times to dinner in perfectly nice family homes where—at end of dinner—Mom swings open the gun locker and invites us all to step into the back yard and pot some beer cans. That may not be Piers Morgan’s idea of normal. It may not be yours. But that’s a facet of American life that’s unlikely to change.

I may be a New York lefty—with all the experiences, prejudices and attitudes that one would expect to come along with that, but I do NOT believe that we will reduce gun violence—or reach any kind of consensus—by shrieking at each other. Gun owners—the vast majority of them I have met—are NOT idiots. They are NOT psychos. They are not even necessarily Republican (New Mexico, by the way, is a Blue State). They are not hicks, right wing “nuts” or necessarily violent by nature. And if “we” have any hope of ever changing anything in this country in the cause of reason—and the safety of our children—we should stop talking about a significant part of our population as if they were lesser, stupider or crazier than we are. The batshit absolutist Wayne LaPierre may not represent the vast majority of gun owners in this land—but if pushed—if the conversation veers towards talk of taking away people’s guns—many gun owners will shade towards him—and away from us.

Gun culture goes DEEP in this country. Deep. A whole hell of a lot of people I’ve met remember Daddy giving them their first rifle as early as age six—and that kind of bonding—that first walk through the early morning woods with your Dad—that’s deep tissue stuff. When people start equating guns—ALL guns—as evil—as something to be eradicated, a whole helluva lot of people are going to get defensive.

The conversation so far has illuminated, instead of any substantial issues, mostly the huge cultural divide between those like me who live in coastal cities with restrictive gun laws—and that vast swath of America who live very differently. We don’t understand how they live. And they don’t understand how we could POSSIBLY live the way we live. A little respect for that difference might be a good thing. The contempt, mockery and total lack of understanding for all those people “out there” by deep thinkers and pundits who’ve never sat down for a cold beer in a bar full of camo-wearing duck hunters is both despicable and counterproductive. We are too busy expressing disbelief at the ways others have chosen to live to ever really talk about the nuts and bolts of making America safer and less violent.

No middle ground is possible when even the notion of a sane, reasonable person who likes to shoot lots of bullets at stuff is seen as so foreign—so “other”. Maybe we would be better off– safer, kinder to one another if we were Denmark or Sweden.

But we are not.

And riding across the incredible landscape of Ghost Ranch outside of Sante Fe, seeing the canyons and arroyos that so inspired Georgia O’ Keefe and generations of artists, writers and seekers who followed, one is especially glad we are not.

There are a lot of nice people in this country. A whole helluva lot of them, like it or not, own AR-15s. If we can’t have at least, a conversation with them, sit down, break bread– about where we are going and how we are going to get there, there is no hope at all.

As far as the much more important question of where I stand on the question of red chile—or green?

I’m green all the way. And New Mexico’s got it best.



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