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Unapologetic Old School Curmudgeon |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyjIY83A-qA Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day | |||
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Thanks guys. To be clear, I’m not security or LE or anything important. I’m just a video guy who sits in the dark backstage mostly playing on my phone until something breaks. But being around as long as I have and being fortunate enough to do a wide variety of live events as well as permanent installations, I’ve picked up a few things. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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Edge seeking Sharp blade! |
If they were going to stage this, Smith wouldn't have laughed at first, he would have been immediately appalled. The only fishy part to me is Rock's stance where he's perfectly posed to take a punch with his hands behind his back, that Smith rushing him doesn't evoke any defensive response or posture. Kind of like Robert Blake in the battery ads daring you to knock it off his shoulder. As noted by a commentator on Jessie Waters show, Rock's head seems to move prior to the slap. This could just be a very quick reaction to a perceived assault, but strangely without any defensive reaction. In many highly scrutinized situations, there often seems to be reactions that seem odd or not what you'd predict. It could be that he's already decided, either by forethought or subliminally, that in this kind of situation, he's taking a punch, vs brawling on stage. Smith's verbal threats post slap don't fit with a staged incident to me. Yes, he's a trained actor, but those seemed like genuine threats to me. What a privileged a-hole. I can't believe they let him carry on as normal after that. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
He stood like that because he wasn't expecting to be hit, I'll bet you he thought Will Smith was going to get up there and yuck it up with him. | |||
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Jada Smith posted this on social media a few days before the incident:
https://deadline.com/2022/03/j...e-oscars-1234989505/ | |||
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He's trying to use open relationship speak to save face. As long as everything is out in the open, it's not cheating. Year V | |||
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Smith has lost his damned mind. First he sucker slaps someone who probably considered him a friend. Then for an apology he recycles some lines from his old movie Hancock ___________________________________Sigforum - port in the fake news storm.____________Be kind to the Homeless. A lot of us are one bad decision away from there. | |||
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Staring back from the abyss |
Ummm....apparently not so much.
So it's whitey's fault. Got it. Add it to the list. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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Probably a good thing Will doesn't carry a gun around. | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
Yeah, it is amusing that people are triggered by Rock's joke; it wasn't actual or implied malice. Smith's master didn't have cancer, or was terminal in any way or fashion. For those who would think Chris Rock deserved a hit in the face for this little joke, would you also hit Don Rickles in the face over his insults? Should Clint Eastwood gone up to Rickles onstage and hit him for insulting his mother, who also was in the audience? Should Obama hunted down Bill Burr for insulting his wife Michelle in his jokes? Chris Rock is a comedian. "GI Jane" was just a fucking joke. And BTW, Pale Horse is entirely correct in his assessment of security- I used to be in same exact industry as him in a past life, and yes, there was no way security was going to mess with Smith (the Big Dog in the Dog & Pony Show), unless ordered to by show producers, who call the shots. I can imagine the chatter that was going on through the ClearComs after the slap. And I agree with John Nolte in this opinion piece. https://www.breitbart.com/ente...dwill-in-30-seconds/ "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
From that page:
"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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delicately calloused |
It occurred to me that Will Smith is where he is in life not because he was especially talented, but because he was likable. That’s it. He’s not a great actor. He has damaged that perception now. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Experienced Slacker |
Both of them are minorities that have more money than any God, which seems to have made both of them feel untouchable (pun intended in Rock's case), and so it tickled me all that much more to watch one black icon slap another in front of the world. Now I realize fighting words have lost a lot of real world application, but I was raised to know making fun of someone's family isn't likely to leave me in one piece for long. I do think Smith should have handled it differently, but maybe this gets us back to when you could expect a sock in the nose if you go too far out of line. | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
This wasn’t that. Not even an approximation. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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How fucking stupid do you have to be to think punching/slapping someone over words is ok? This ain’t the playground. You are grown ups. If your wife says something annoying about somebody at the grocery store and she gets smacked are you still ok with it? Grow the fuck up. Hitting people over words was never right. Never. You should have learned that in kindergarten. Nobody wants to live in a society where a perceived “diss” is dealt with violently. You guys carry guns for the most part. You really want someone to slap a guy for an insult and then get shot to death? Get over yourself. This isn’t Afghanistan. We don’t attack people over insults. Grow up. There was nothing right about this. At all. | |||
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I'm so sick of hearing ppl describe Rock's joke as tasteless & inappropriate as if he were mocking someone dying of stage 4 cancer. Yes, alopecia is a autoimmune disorder. So are coeliac disease (aka, gluten allergy) and rheumatoid arthritis. It doesn't mean someone has a life-threatening health condition. Alopecia results in hair loss; that's it. It's OK to joke about Kevin Hart being short; Zach Galifianakis, Jack Black, or Anthony Anderson for being chubby, Peter Jackson for looking slovenly, or Judi Dench for being old, but perish the thought of pointing out that Jada Pinkett-Smith is bald. As others pointed out, she had bald patches. She could have gotten a weave or wig, but she chose to shave her head to even it out. In other words, going bald was her choice or owning up to the look.
Why is being compared to GI Jane an insult? Have any of your seen GI Jane? GI Jane was a strong female protagonist before that became a woke cliche. When Demi Moore's character shaves her head in the film, it's a pivotal moment where she holds herself up to the same standards as her male BUD/S training candidates and demands no special treatment. I'm sure when Chris Rock wrote his joke, he thought hard about a positive bald female character to reference. If he wanted to be mean, he could have compared Jada to Sam Cassell, Don Cheadle, or some other bald Black man. | |||
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If memory serves me right, last year's "thing" was to "defund the police" and send in contributions to an organization founded by Marxists who applaud the assassinations of cops. BLM and those supporting it come from a place (the inner city) where insufficient numbers of police officers leads to a lack of faith in the criminal justice system. That "vacuum" is filled by criminal street gangs and a culture of entitled retribution for slights, real or imagined. You don't need to go to Afghanistan to find savages that don't give a shit about the rule of law and safe communities. We have that right here. "I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken." | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
^^^ Yup - Difference between the rule of nature and civilization "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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