Moderate Democrats and Party Loyalists continue to fight for survival over there. Now that they've probably avoided a brokered convention while still being able to sideline Bernie they just need to pretend to be serious and ride out this all-but-inevitable loss again in 2020.

I don't think even they believe they can beat President Trump this time, but they do seem to feel they've staved off an implosion within the DNC itself. Worst case now is that too many Bernie fans stay home, but it doesn't really matter, it will only change the degree of their loss, not the outcome, IMO.

A Bernie based populus uprising of sorts was their only real chance in 2020, IMO. And now that that's all but impossible, we just have to show up and vote again to keep this train rolling four more years. They've fucked themselves enough without our help. They're barely a threat at all, now, IMO.

All these intra-party machinations on the Left are doing is saving their asses for later, I think.

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but they do seem to feel they've staved off an implosion within the DNC itself.

That implosion was coming ever since the high-octane shenanigans in 2016, so I can see why they'd feel relieved. We don't know that the whole Bernie thing is played out yet, though. After all, it took a general panic among the 'moderate' Dems to get Biden's campaign back on track.

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Originally posted by divil:
There better be plenty of non-presstitutes covering the doddering swamp dweller or that exposure will not happen.

All it takes these days is one person with a cell phone.

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We don't know that the whole Bernie thing is played out yet, though.

True.

But after losing pretty much the entire South to Biden, I think Bernie is done, myself.

When a guy promising the world can't win some of the poorest and darkest districts, he's toast.

And there will be no populous uprising without the poor and black South.

So he fizzles out, again. All bark, no bite. Because he has no intra-Party support.

I think the underlying *statement* from the voting public is quite clear, NO to Socialism, even on the Left.

I find it a touch encouraging that Bernie isn't more popular than he is.

I think it says a lot about America, on the whole.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Nah, I don't think so. Biden and Sanders are running for the opportunity to get their ass kicked by Trump in November. Doesn't matter which one survives the primary, when the Trump train descends on them, they're toast.

Nothing is easy. We will all have to do our part to make it so.

And we will. But assuming Biden is the Dem nominee, when Trump causes him to wet himself on stage during the first debate, and ole slow Joe doesn't even recognize its happened, the end for Joe will be near.

Did you see the clip Laura Ingram played tonight of the protester jumping up on stage at the Biden rally? What was telling was how Jill Biden handled Joe telling him "It's alright now, you're OK". That's exactly how people who have completely lost their marbles are treated by their loved ones. Ole Joe's little more than a ticking time bomb at this point and you can take it to the bank that Trump will absolutely pull his pin.

It's pretty sad these are the best nominees the democrat party can come up with. A fake Indian that came in 3rd in her own district. A senile communist with a bad heart, and a senile old pervert with dementia. AND, Billionaire Bloomburg that couldn't even buy a win and would offend his own mother.

You can't take Democrats at face value. We have to really worry about Biden's VP. Say Biden got in, then 4 months later announces he has dementia and steps down, VP becomes President.

While Bernie's ideas are the absolute worst for this country, I don't think the Democratic house would even back 99% of his crap.

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
AND, Billionaire Bloomburg that couldn't even buy a win and would offend his own mother.

Hey now, that's not fair. He won America Samoa. And as we all know, as America Samoa goes, so goes the cou..... Wait, no. Nevermind.

The Dems know Biden is going to shit his pants so the pick for VP becomes critical.

https://hotair.com/archives/ja...-california-tuesday/

We Don’t Actually Know Who Won California On Tuesday

The media called California for Bernie Sanders moments after the polls closed on Friday so everyone knows how that played out, right? Bernie Sanders won the Golden State, but not by as wide of a margin as earlier polls had predicted.

Well… maybe. The truth is that barely half of the votes have been counted . The “final” results we were given were largely based on exit polls and trends in the actual votes cast in person on Tuesday. But as The Guardian is reporting, there are more than five million ballots stacked up in bags at post office warehouses or on their way to officials to be tallied. And nobody knows how many of them were cast for which candidate because they were all mailed in early. One political analyst described it as a “black box.”

So far, about 5.3m ballots have been counted, according to Mitchell, just over 50% of the 10m he expects have been cast in this election.

In a more normal election cycle, we wouldn’t expect any sort of huge shift in the projections because we’ve gotten fairly good at gauging such things based on exit polling. But this is far from a normal election cycle. Keep in mind that the California primary took place three days after South Carolina voted and barely 48 hours after two other candidates from the “moderate” lane who had measurable support dropped out.

We should also remember that California Democrats started voting 40 days before the actual primary date .

At that point, Joe Biden’s campaign had been left for dead on the side of the road by many analysts (as Joe so loves to point out this week). Pete Buttigieg was being seen as an ascendent, competitive player after Iowa and New Hampshire. Bernie Sanders was being talked about as “inevitable” for a good portion of that period. And Michael Bloomberg was running a massive television ad campaign all over California in every major market. He was also rising in the polls.

With all of that in mind, how can we possibly know what story those five million ballots will tell? This is precisely the problem I was talking about yesterday when discussing the massive problems with extreme early voting. The bulk of those millions of ballots were cast by people who didn’t have anywhere near all the information they would surely have liked to have had when they sent them in.

For all we know, Bernie Sanders could have such a massive share of those ballots that he’ll take the lead back in the delegate count. Conversely, huge numbers of Californians may have been panicking over a potential Sanders nomination and voting in droves for Buttigieg. Or Biden. Or even Bloomberg. At this point, we’re trying to read the minds of people who were making decisions without a lot of information that voters had on primary day. It’s an exercise in futility.

Yes, in all likelihood, Bernie Sanders won and will pick up a sizable pack of delegates. But there’s a non-zero probability that it might be much closer to a tie. Heck, he might have even finished second.

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Originally posted by k5blazer:
The Dems know Biden is going to shit his pants so the pick for VP becomes critical.

His VP pick is going to be someone who he thinks will help him in the key swing states.

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Originally posted by sdy:
https://hotair.com/archives/ja...-california-tuesday/

...because we’ve gotten fairly good at gauging such things based on exit polling.

BULL!
SHIT!

Using "Exit Polling" to predict an election's winner has got to STOP...and RIGHT NOW. Pretty soon, our elections will be no better than anything conducted in a Banana Republic. Let's just have the candidates declare themselves the winner, so why even vote, he said sarcastically.

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Originally posted by 46and2:

I think the underlying *statement* from the voting public is quite clear, NO to Socialism, even on the Left.

I find it a touch encouraging that Bernie isn't more popular than he is.

I think it says a lot about America, on the whole.

My forecast for the election "weather map" is a repeat of 2016: Only the coastal areas, with the wealthy elites (you know, the people who think they know better than us and should be able to tell us how to live) will vote for a geriatric old white man, despite claiming to be the party of young, vital diversity. The rest of the country -- you know, the people who actually work for a living and keep this economy booming -- will vote (R).

If anything, there will be less blue (which is red, in actuality) than there was in 2016.

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Using "Exit Polling" to predict an election's winner has got to STOP...and RIGHT NOW.

Really?
And how do you stop "Exit Polling"? Repeal the first amendment?

What I want stopped is election fraud.
Both allowing people to vote who are not eligible (mostly illegal aliens) and allowing people to vote more than once (often in multiple states).

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We're on the same page more than you know.

I didn't say, "Stop exit polling". I said, "Stop exit polling TO PREDICT AN ELECTION'S WINNER". What good is exit polling if the data sample collected comes from ONLY Democrats/Liberals or Republicans/Conservatives? Skewed results, is what ensues, and we all know that's what happens.

Posted in the Trump Presidency thread...

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
Well, Lizzy just dropped out, who shall she back?

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I didn't say, "Stop exit polling". I said, "Stop exit polling TO PREDICT AN ELECTION'S WINNER".

But anyone can predict a winner. I could do a poll of one person and predict a winner based on the results. Some will be better at predicting than others. Still, it's just an opinion. It has no effect on the actual outcome.

Lizzy is OUT!

https://thehill.com/homenews/c...ops-presidential-bid

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is set to end her presidential bid on Thursday after failing to gain traction in the 2020 primary race, a source confirmed to The Hill.

The report comes after Warren failed to perform well in the early primary contests, and on Super Tuesday when she came in third in her home state of Massachusetts.

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
Lizzy is OUT!

Confirmed!

^^^ wonder what kind of deal she got. And, is she standing behind Joe or Bernie?

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
Lizzy is OUT!

Hey, there's always Tulsi...