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If Biden gets the virus, he’s done.

Don’t get upset, I voted for BERNIE in WI, it’s just a primary.
 
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Hell, in Wisconsin that may be a way to get laid.

And five'll get you ten they're working overtime on making sure he doesn't get the virus. Come to think of it, I wonder if his donors are footing the bill via "the campaign" in order to protect their investment?

Meanwhile, from the "The Media Is Bored Senseless Tonight" File...

Mark Cuban Won't Say If He'll Run For President, But Notes The 'Door Is Wide Open'
Julia La Roche, Yahoo Finance, 3/31/2020
http://www.yahoo.com/finance/n...stion-202015951.html

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Our Governor is making a good push to be his VP candidate. I'm sure he'll go looking for her in the great state of Minnesota.....


Anything Whitmer says just turn it 180 degrees and you have the truth, starting with her campaign pledge. The more she denies it, the more I know she wants the nod.

Just think, with a Biden/Whitmer team it could be called "Dumb And Dumber, The Sequel"


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I find it most hilarious that there are still people floating the idea that the Dem candidate will be someone other than Joe or Bernie.

Seriously, Cuomo? Or Mark Cuban?

Most states have had their primaries. It's over. As much as I would find the fallout amusing, there is simply no way the DNC could go to the convention and haul in a total outsider who didn't participate in the primary system at all and foist them as the candidate. The delegates wouldn't go along.

They're in damage control mode. They realize they created a shit sandwich and have thrown all their eggs into Biden's tottering basket, hence the sudden drop out of all the other candidates who threw their support to him. If you're in damage control mode, you don't push the button that surely destroys your party's legitimacy, lacking though it be, entirely.

Not even the DNC is that stupid.


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They're in damage control mode. They realize they created a shit sandwich and have thrown all their eggs into Biden's tottering basket, hence the sudden drop out of all the other candidates who threw their support to him.

Yeah... Biden's the candidate. Unless he drops out... then all bets are off.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Re Bloomberg...spends nearly a billion dollars on his own vanity-driven campaign, and then $18 million to the DNC to make good on his promise to support the effort to oust Trump. Yes, thats a lot of $$ relative to me, but as Chellim points out, chicken feed, table scraps, compared what would really make a difference.

Not only is he the president of his own fan club, he is a cheap bastard too boot.

And it really angers me that this (political crap) is top of mind for many Dems; not the illnesses, not the deaths or the colossal financial impact this is having on millions, in this country and all others



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Originally posted by chellim1:
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Token, sign of real commitment, or a naked bid to buy control over the Dems' national campaign?

Combine that with the fact that Biden is unable to raise money...

Wuhan Coronavirus Victim: Joe Biden Fundraising

Making it Harder for Biden to Raise Money He Desperately Needs to Take on Trump

Former Vice President Joe Biden has a massive lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), so why the concern over money?

President Donald Trump and the GOP continue to swim in money. If Biden wants to compete, he needs the resources. The coronavirus is making it harder for Biden to raise those needed funds.

Rufus Gifford served as President Barack Obama’s finance director in the 2012 election. He knows a thing or two about fundraising, but he also knows that the coronavirus pushed publish health to the top of the priority list.

Gifford had to cancel Thursday’s fundraiser for Biden. He sold 75 tickets valued at $2,800 in Midtown Manhattan.

https://legalinsurrection.com/...e-biden-fundraising/

What do you get?
Opportunity for a guy like Bloomberg to control the DNC.

Bloomberg donates $18 million from his own campaign to the DNC.... it's nothing. Just a trifle.
Then he sits back and waits. $18 million is a drop in the bucket compared to what they need. Soon, they will be begging Bloomie for more, and that's when he starts getting concessions, putting his people in charge. It's what Hillary did when she took complete control of the DNC back in 2015-2016.


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Not only is he the president of his own fan club, he is a cheap bastard too boot.

There is another possibility, one perfectly consistent with the thinking of a rich and self-centered man. $18 million is chump change to Bloomberg, a relative drop in the bucket to the DNC, and a lot of money to everyone else. Bloomberg donates that amount, impressing everyone else and giving the DNC a taste of what it's like to be on the Bloomberg Money Train. The grass roots can't or won't criticize Bloomberg while the DNC starts coming around, hat in hand, to ask for more money. Bloomberg can then ask for more and more for that money, whether its specific policies, a more "moderate" tone to the platform and campaign, or the odd favor down the road. You can fish all afternoon if you just bring a bucket of bait.
 
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The Democrat convention is now pushed back to August.


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The Democrat convention is now pushed back to August.


They should move it to December. Just run a blank Democrat candidate with the slogan, "We need to elect this President in order to find out who it is!" Nancy Pelosi can be the campaign chair.




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Big Grin They may actually need that long - or longer - to fight it out.
 
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The Democrat convention is now pushed back to August.


They should move it to December. Just run a blank Democrat candidate with the slogan, "We need to elect this President in order to find out who it is!" Nancy Pelosi can be the campaign chair.


Naw, just November 4th with same day registration voting on that day.
 
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Aw, Bernie's so trickyyyyyy! There he is, eating his heart out in isolation from the Kung Flu while Trump is out there acting Presidential every day and getting all kinds of attention for it. What's a cagey old commie to do? Why, claim that the way the President is doing his job he's being corrupt and petty!

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Bernie Sanders Warns Bill Maher That Donald Trump May Use Coronavirus Bill Money To Boost Chances In Battleground States
Ted Johnson, Deadline, 4/3/2020

Bernie Sanders warned HBO Real Time host Bill Maher that it's entirely possible that President Donald Trump will direct coronavirus relief money to states based on whether he needs to win them in the 2020 presidential race.

"If you think that during a campaign, you're not going to see a lot of money from the Trump administration going to battleground states Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, you would be grossly underestimating the venality of this president", Sanders said from Burlington, VT, where he was connected by video chat to Maher, who returned this week to host his HBO from his Los Angeles home.

All errors sic, full original text at http://www.yahoo.com/entertain...maher-032337365.html

Neat, huh? If Trump does the right thing in places that supported him or may support him, he's being corrupt. If he spends the money in California and New York, then Bernie gets to crow about forcing Trump to spend money there and then lambaste Trump for political cowardice. All of this regardless of what actual needs exist or actual planning has been done.

And Bernie? Bernie ain't responsible for shit, man, he's not the President and he's been forced into isolation to avoid getting his geriatric ass Kung Flu'ed!

I tell you, if I was 12 years old again, I would consider this brilliant.
 
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"If you think that during a campaign, you're not going to see a lot of money from the Trump administration going to battleground states Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, you would be grossly underestimating the venality of this president", Sanders said from Burlington, VT,

Roll Eyes
Well, it just so happens that Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida ARE states that are among the hardest hit by the Wuhan virus.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Since facts are unobtanium, here's the latest rumor:

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Sanders Campaign Manager, Advisers Urge Him To Drop Out Of Presidential Race
Zachary Evans, National Review, 4/6/2020

Campaign manager Faiz Shakir and Sanders ally Representative Pramila Jayapal (D., Wash) have reportedly come out in favor of exiting the race. Political strategist Jeff Weaver, a longtime Sanders ally, has also made the case for dropping out, saying an exit now would leave the Vermont senator on friendlier terms with rival Joe Biden and secure more leverage for negotiations over the Democrats' political platform.

Sanders said he was taking a "hard look" at the campaign's future in a Friday MSNBC interview. The senator is reportedly waiting to make a decision until after the Wisconsin primary on Tuesday, which Sanders won in 2016 but where Biden now has an average 18-point lead according to RealClearPolitics.

While Sanders won the popular vote in the first three Democratic primaries, Biden rode to victory in South Carolina and again in most Super Tuesday states, boosted by moderate and African American voters. Sanders has so far refused to drop out despite Biden's 1,217 - 914 delegate lead, and several states have rescheduled their primaries and mandated voting by mail during the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/sand...-urge-114705021.html

So, do we have any poker players here? The proposition is simple enough: Sanders can drop out now and negotiate on the favor he did Biden, which could've been huge if the Sanders vote was big in the remaining primaries. Or Sanders can hold out on the theory that he'll win some huge victories in the coming primaries which will give him more leverage to negotiate with Biden if Sanders stays in. Remember, we're playing by Democrat "rules" here, which means that even if Sanders doesn't win, Biden will still be forced to negotiate if Sanders loses but gets enough support to be a threat to the unity of the Democrat Party during the general election. Biden can be pretty much certain at this point that he won't have enough votes to win the Presidency otherwise.

The only thing we know for sure? Biden wants to get as far away from Bernie's policies and phrasing as possible, while getting the votes of as many dedicated Bernie voters in the general election as possible. So far the only strategy Biden and his friends (in the media or not) seem to have come up with is to act as though Biden's securing the nomination is a done deal and hoping that their general air of confidence will be enough to discourage Bernie of staying in the primary race.

So what's the smart play here? Not just the obvious one, but the smart one?
 
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For Bernie the smart play is to stay in. He loses all leverage if he drops out. If he stays in he has lots of leverage at the convention or if Biden is forced to drop out.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Biden has the covfefe virus.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
 
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Bernie folded a little too easily in 2016. I wonder whether he's figured out the importance of leverage and that he absolutely should use it when he's got it. There's no doubt in my mind that Biden will happily ignore him to the extent Biden can.
 
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Biden has the covfefe virus.


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They don't expect to win the top job. Just want the uninformed to keep voting straight ticket
 
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Joe Bidet and the demoncrats will be trying to hammer home how the President has fucked up concerning the Chinese Virus response. Be prepared to hear nothing but that bullshit until Election Day.


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