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Originally posted by 911Boss:
I know it’s “legal” and happens all the time, but it really pisses me off that a prosecutor can take one act and charge/try the case under multiple laws for the same act.

Manslaughter vs. Negligent homicide. Pick ONE, take your shot and present your case. As far as I am concerned these “fall back positions” are essentially double or triple jeopardy all at once. Being charged multiple things, for the same act hoping one will stick.


I get if I steal a car and then run someone over there are multiple crimes. Penny did ONE act, pick ONE charge that you feel fits. one bite of the apple. </rant>

None of this, “well if you won’t convict of this, maybe you will convict of this, or this, or this…” crap

To be fair, both sides submit jury instructions and a lot of times, the Defense will include ALL of the lesser included offenses (at least this is the way it is in Missouri....I have learned a lot since becoming a Bailiff). I have heard several juries (after a verdict and they are dismissed) that they thought the Prosecution was fishing for any conviction when it was the Defense that submitted the lesser included charges. Sometimes the Defense strategy is IF the jury in going to convict, try to make it a lesser included charge so little to no jail/prison time.

Now New York is screwed up and Manhattan is Banana Republic Justice System. In the Trump case, the "Judge" ruled against almost all the the Defense's Jury Instructions and granted all the Prosecution's Jury Instructions. Here is how it goes in Missouri:
*Both sides submit initial Jury Instructions before Trial even starts.
*At some point during trial, after Jurors have been dismissed for the day, the Judge, Prosecution and Defense finalize Jury Instructions....which can take several hours and late into the night.
*On last day of trial (and before Jury Deliberations), the Judge reads the Jury Instructions which can number from teens to 30 or so. The Prosecution goes first in Closing Arguments, Defense goes second, and the Prosecution goes one last time (I believe it was at this point the Prosecution had a new theory on crime in Trump's trial).
*Jury goes out for Deliberations.

I haven't worked a Hung Jury yet. In two cases, the Judge gave them the Hammer Rule (try again) and in both cases they came back with a proper verdict. In a sex crimes case, the initial verdict was an "Inconsistent Verdict" due to the way the Jury Instructions were written. It was explained to the Jury and they went back out and deliberated and came back with a proper verdict.

https://x.com/captivedreamer7/.../1864171758028231081



https://x.com/KeenanPeachy/status/1864338023611306034

Not guilty

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/09...ath-trial/index.html

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Not guilty

Indeed! YES, now someone needs to sue this prosecutor for misapplying justice!

Members of the black community on Fox Live

Talking about BLM who are calling for protests, burning cars, buildings etc over the verdict and asking them to not do it, and that the race baiters are only stoking the fires for money.

They are parading the relatives and Eric Gardner's mother.
Pathetic, racism stoking.
On Fox News now.

I can't wait for the salt from this one. Good is winning over evil these days.

This case never should have been filed but Bragg caved to pressure over whitey killing a brother.

Great day for Penny and for justice.

Bad day for Bragg and it'll be an even worse day when the 34 felonies case is tossed or dismissed.

Thank God

They mad.

Amen! Justice prevails.

Goodgoddamm they be mad.

I got news, 2025 won't be like 2020.

quote:

Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
This case never should have been filed but Bragg caved to pressure over whitey killing a brother.

Great day for Penny and for justice.

Bad day for Bragg and it'll be an even worse day when the 34 felonies case is tossed or dismissed.

I doubt he "caved in."

Thankful for this verdict.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
They mad.

Not just mad…they be BIG mad…New York brace yourselves for the inevitable backlash

Of course I'm pleased with the outcome of this farce.

I do have a question:

How did the jury go from deadlocked Friday on manslaughter to unanimous on the lesser charge Monday?

They calling for disruption of all the blue shitholes.

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Originally posted by vinnybass:
Of course I'm pleased with the outcome of this farce.

I do have a question:

How did the jury go from deadlocked Friday on manslaughter to unanimous on the lesser charge Monday?

^^ THIS! A very good question...

Obviously, this is the correct and righteous verdict, but certainly a curious way to get there.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1866165572750438721