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| Shall Not Be Infringed |
Pretty sure that's gonna require either legislative action by Congress, or a decision by the Supreme Court. ATF Director Cekeda has previously stated that the point of the guidance is to cover as many people as the injunction allows, and to lock that protection in so a later administration cannot casually walk it back. He also said ATF is NOT going to turn the Texas order into a nationwide, everyone-everywhere rule on its own. The Legislature fucked us over on this by only reducing the tax to $0 instead of removing suppressors & SBRs from the NFA! It was in the Big Beautiful Bill before they amended it! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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| Husband, Father, Aggie, all around good guy! |
So in the North Houston area, I am seeing/hearing more and more gun shops selling suppressors via 4473. The momentum is building, with sufficient velocity it becomes harder for a future administration to roll back. Supply of suppressors appears to be a key limiting factor to even larger growth. My next thought, and what I am hoping to see soon is the same for SBR's which also have the Zero'd tax benefit. Hoping the promised ATF guidance addresses this point adequately. If you boil it down, if hearing safety equipment can be sold via 4473, then a barrel shorter than an arbitrarily set barrel length of 16-inches should be as well. | |||
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I was at Academy Sports Tuesday evening picking up a G19 Gen6 , and the counter guys were excited that the "suppressor section" is now ready to start displaying/selling suppressors. Ain't it grand | |||
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| If you see me running try to keep up |
That is awful brave of them to move forward without the ATF providing any written guidance. Hopefully they are doing it as a result of direction from their attorneys. | |||
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I bought a suppressor via 4473 here in North Texas on Monday. GOA dashboard check, NICS check and pay. I was in and out in 25 minutes. This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears above ground he is a protector. Plato | |||
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Still haven't run across an LGS here that is selling on 4473's, will have to check again with the folks at the gun range, it's where I have things shipped in. | |||
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
Lots of folks doing them here on 4473. It’s quite clear who is covered. The issue being as Para has brought up is Federal Law is to be uniform. How do those not currently covered come into the fold? ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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The key here is momentum on numbers. Sales numbers need to be so staggeringly high that they can’t realistically muck around with it. I can understand wanting to wait and see how things shake out, but if you like your 2A wins and you want to keep getting them, we need as many gun owners as possible to pitch in and buy suppressors now. Skip coffee and eating out for a few weeks or a month and get a $300 .22 can, I don’t care, but get something.
The reason SBR’s still require a tax stamp is because of importation regulations in/around 922R or thereabouts. Can’t recall all the details at the moment, but they’re covered by the GCA specifically. I’m guessing what will become common place is a plethora of pistol configured AR’s and the like being purchased along with stocks so you can just convert it yourself easily. I’ll be shocked if the next year’s SHOT Show offerings aren’t a ton of “just convert it yourself” would-be SBR’s with the “if you’re one of the covered parties, then it’s easy to just slap a stock on it, and if you aren’t or live somewhere it’s legal in pistol configuration but not as a short barrel rifle, then we offer it with a brace” pitch. ______________________________________________ "If the truth shall kill them, let them die.” "A man who does not read has no appreciable advantage over a man who cannot read." | |||
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| I Am The Walrus |
It would be insane if shops in FL started doing that. How much is an average suppressor? I imagine sales would be quite high given the number of gun owners here. _____________ | |||
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
Here is a list of dealers in Florida transferring on 4473s. https://www.gundibs.com/transfers/4473/florida ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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| Why don’t you fix your little problem and light this candle |
My LGS is a member but I also joined the GOA so I provided the card, signed a 'waiver' form and bought a suppressor on a 4473 at the same times as my (experiment) Panzer ARP9. Pretty cool actually. This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson | |||
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The easiest way I have found is to buy off Silencershops website. They will show you dealers in your area that will transfer off a 4473. You buy from Silencershop, they ship to that FFL, you do a 4473 and pick up your new can without even a transfer fee. | |||
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This keeps up, I may have to buy another suppressor. I’m going to one of my favorite shops next week, I’ll have to ask them their current protocol selling them. | |||
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One of my local shops in Pensacola sells to GOA members on a 4473 no wait other than a NICS check. I’ve bought 2. And no sales tax through end of 2026. Bought an otter creek polonium and a HUX TI 9. Saved $400 on tax stamps and about $100 in sales tax | |||
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I've got a few changes in the works that may affect my disposable income. When that's all finalized, a Kuna & 9mm can may jump up the list... The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Got Email from another company Special Ops Tactical, they make some really nice AR-15's in the couple grand price range. He said that if I get it through SS they will release it with a standard 4473... Rats, now I need to pick on LOL Check out their web page, https://sotmfg.com/ | |||
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
HOT DAMN!!!!!!!! Looks like it is Suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs for EVERYONE on 4473s unless restricted by state or local law!!!!!!!! https://www.atf.gov/news/press...QVoiFjHkiYy3GrXRfQxw
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| Shall Not Be Infringed |
https://x.com/GunOwners/status/2108645158124175833
This is great, BUT...Without either legislative action by Congress, or a decision by the Supreme Court, this is only good for as long as we have a Republican President. ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Down the Rabbit Hole![]() |
What happens if someone purchases one of these items from a dealer on a 4473 and down the road decides to sell it to someone else in his home state? I don't need to go through an FFL if I sell to an individual that lives in my state. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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Better get them while you can unless Congress takes action. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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