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http://www.reuters.com/article...cision-idUSKBN1862WP

The anger behind Donald Trump's firing of FBI Director James Comey on Tuesday had been building for months, but a turning point came when Comey refused to preview for top Trump aides his planned testimony to a Senate panel, White House officials said.

Trump, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had wanted a heads-up from Comey about what he would say at a May 3 hearing about his handling of an investigation into former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server.

When Comey refused, Trump and his aides considered that an act of insubordination and it was one of the catalysts to Trump’s decision this week to fire the FBI director, the officials said.

"It gave the impression that he was no longer capable of carrying out his duties," one official said. Previews of congressional testimony to superiors are generally considered courteous.






The testimony of Comey, Clapper, & Brennan always had a tone that President Trump was not deserving of respect or even common courtesy.

They never treated him as President.

All the while they continually talked about wild accusations w virtually no proof. The proof was always "classified", "can't discuss", "some other forum".

Too bad they didn't have the same priorities about enforcing classified info protection when they investigated Clinton's emails.
 
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Interim Director McCabe just confirmed that the dismissal of Comey has had no effect on any ongoing FBI activity or investigations, if there are any which there may not be. "Nothing can stop the hard working agents....."

So, what's the big deal then?




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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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So, what's the big deal then?


If you lean to the left a little bit, you can see it.




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The whole notion that the firing of Comey was related to trying to stop the Russian investigation is being utterly squashed in today's hearing.


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I think they gave him enough rope to hang himself. Let the proper authorities review his case and make a recommendation.

I do think they should have waited until he was home in his office and then handed him the letter. After reading the letter, his badge is taken and he is escorted out of the building by security.


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I do think they should have waited until he was home in his office and then handed him the letter. After reading the letter, his badge is taken and he is escorted out of the building by security.

Ya... I'd have to agree with that.
The whole plane on the tarmac, everyone watching it take off from LA... it was all a bit dramatic.



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The bad thing about all of this is that the American public, left and right are being inundated with the 24 hour news cycle of Comey and the Russia BS.

It is taking away from the fact that there all far more important things that Washington can be doing right now. Instead, they are holding dog and pony shows over Comey and Russia.

On the flip side, we can't see what they are doing while the media is obsessed with conspiracies.




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It is taking away from the fact that there all far more important things that Washington can be doing right now. Instead, they are holding dog and pony shows over Comey and Russia.


a bit like such celebrations as the Big Frenzy in Norleeens putting all civic affairs On Hold pending 'til afterwards....


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Trump is trolling the liberal dems again. Can you investigate comeys firing without re-opening Hillary's email server scandal, humas weiner laptop escapade or the entire 2016 election?

If they want- have at it.


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People voted overwhelmingly for Trump for substantive reasons - Comey is just one of them. Git 'er done Donald - #draintheswamp





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There is a flap now brewing about DAG Rosenstein being unhappy at the characterization of his memo, and threatening to resign.

Stay tuned.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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There is a flap now brewing about DAG Rosenstein being unhappy at the characterization of his memo, and threatening to resign.

Stay tuned.




But it does look like maybe some of Comey's supporters are going to try to strike fast:




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There is a flap now brewing about DAG Rosenstein being unhappy at the characterization of his memo, and threatening to resign.

Stay tuned.




But it does look like maybe some of Comey's supporters are going to try to strike fast:



They were questioning the two Senators about Rosenstein resignation threat a bit ago.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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They were questioning the two Senators about Rosenstein resignation threat a bit ago.


NBC just released a clip of Lester Holt's interview of Trump that should put it to bed. In this snippet Trump says he had already decided to fire Comey before he even talked to Rosenstein or asked for his opinion on it. Rosenstein was allegedly upset based on an erroneous report that Trump fired Comey based on that memo. Trump just definitively shot that down.

https://twitter.com/NBCNightly...s/862713274676072448



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They were questioning the two Senators about Rosenstein resignation threat a bit ago.


NBC just released a clip of Lester Holt's interview of Trump that should put it to bed. In this snippet Trump says he had already decided to fire Comey before he even talked to Rosenstein or asked for his opinion on it. Rosenstein was allegedly upset based on an erroneous report that Trump fired Comey based on that memo. Trump just definitively shot that down.

https://twitter.com/NBCNightly...s/862713274676072448


My impression was the "erroneous report" had come from the WH, Sarah Huckabee Whatzername at the briefing yesterday.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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My impression was the "erroneous report" had come from the WH, Sarah Huckabee Whatzername at the briefing yesterday.


Also Spicer, Conway and Pence said so as well Smile

Trump trumped them today! Big Grin



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My impression was the "erroneous report" had come from the WH, Sarah Huckabee Whatzername at the briefing yesterday.


Also Spicer, Conway and Pence said so as well Smile

Trump trumped them today! Big Grin


Being forced to see CNN every time I glance at the airport bar TV, I can tell you that their headlines are extremely dishonest and misleading (the sound is off thank God). It's a "shifting" White House story about the Comey firing...Trump contradicts his staff...McCabe contradicts WH....And on and on and on. Ridiculous bias. Thankfully I'm drinking bourbon and can easily ignore it.


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^^^ Cool, but be aware that there is the easy-to-ignore-shit level of bourbon intake... then, a little past that, there is the "point at screen and say HA! loudly level of bourbon." Then, a little past that is the "look around the bar and say 'Can you believe this shit?' level of bourbon." Then, a little past that...never mind, we don't even want to go there. Big Grin


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We always knew Donald Trump was brassy, but until he sent half-stepping ex-FBI Director James Comey packing, we didn’t know that his manparts were made of brass. You gotta be hardcore to step up to that sanctimonious tool, that Kasich-With-A-Badge, and cut him off at the knees in the face of the inevitable monsoon of fake news media panic, girlish Democrat howling, and sputtering Menschian Russianoia.

No hesitation. No apologies. When it became inarguable that this pumped up functionary with delusions of omnipotence had finally passed his sell-by date, Trump pulled the trigger. That’s taking charge. That’s leading from the front. That’s regulating. Damn, it’s nice to once again have a chief executive who’s not a simpering femboy.

The pathetic Democrats were caught so utterly off-guard, and were so completely bought-into their spittle-flicking Comey hate, that their 180 from calling for Comey’s head to calling for his restoration will give them mental whiplash. They’ll be in figurative neck braces just like the one their hero Ted Kennedy wore after he left Mary Jo in the pond.

The morning of the day that Trump canned Comey, the Dems were in high dudgeon over Comey’s “correction” of his Senate testimony regarding how many classified emails Huma sent to her overexposed spouse. It was a lot less than what Comey told Congress…under oath…when everyone was watching. No biggie. He “clarified” it afterwards, so it was all good.

When normals give false testimony under oath, we call it “perjury,” and Comey’s former subordinates frog march them into federal prison. But when Comey does it, it’s merely an oopsie and he gets to shrug as the sad trombone blows.

Democrats have a beef about Comey telling Congress – which promptly leaked it – that he was reopening the Clinton investigation right before the election. But he was reopening it, and he assured Congress he’d let it know if he did, and it was a big deal. Hillary had no right to a free pass on the foreseeable consequences of her decision to flout the law. No toilet server, no hacks, no problem – this was all of her doing and no one should blame Comey for that. Nor was it Comey who kept her out of Michigan, Wisconsin, and the parts of Pennsylvania where people cling to their guns and religion.

But his “Free Pass for Hillary” press conference in July was perhaps the most transparently horrific decision by a Justice Department official since Janet Reno decided that she had to burn down the Branch Davidian compound to save its kids. Here’s the thing about Comey – he was arrogant. He was so arrogant that he took for himself the power to ignore the law because he determined, by himself, that if Hillary was treated like every other non-elite citizen the outcome would somehow be wrong. Voters might vote incorrectly if Hillary was held accountable and Comey, in his surpassing benevolent wisdom, could not allow that.


His press conference did incalculable damage to the American People’s faith in the rule of law. But he’s special, and his most-favored-felon treatment of fellow elite alum Hillary and her cadre of crooks was just professional courtesy.

His dedication to higher truth justified Jimmy lying to our faces. Any normal American, but not Hillary, would have been indicted over those classified emails – those of us who actually held security clearances understand that especially well. And that stuff about no prosecutor being able to prove the case? A first-year lawyer with a hangover could prove her U.S. Code violations to a jury of Kardashians with ADD.

Everything Comey said at that press conference after laying out that devastating indictment of Hillary Clinton was a lie. Everything. But he had his higher purpose. He was not bound by the petty rules that constrain lesser men.

It was never Comey’s job to determine whether to prosecute her. He was a cop – well, cops actually do cop things instead of ride a desk and stare lovingly into the mirror, but his role was law enforcement nonetheless. Comey was not a prosecutor. Yet he usurped that job because he felt that only St. Jim had the moral fortitude to see beyond and above our mere mortal laws. It was his obligation – nay, his duty – to ignore the statutes enacted by the People through the Congress and to do what he determined was right, not what the law required, not what his oath compelled, but what he felt good about.


Comey’s actions were not the actions of an officer of a democratic republic, but of an aspiring benign dictator who feels himself unbound by mere mortal laws. And history is replete with the heaps of bodies that lie at the far end of that slippery slope. Such men never stay benign long.

That pompous hack can never be too gone from office. He probably thought he was going to skate too, right up until the minute security showed up with an empty banker’s box to confiscate his access card and walk him out to the sidewalk.

The Democrats are fuming, enraged that President Trump dared to fearlessly exercise the power of every other president and dismiss those who serve at his pleasure whom he no longer finds pleasing. But he rejects the idea that because liberals disapprove, his every action is somehow illegitimate. Trump refuses to accept the narrative that he is The President*, America’s Asterisk-in-Chief.

Not a thing.

Savor this moment. You just lived through history. January 20, 2017, is when Donald Trump took the oath of office. May 9, 2017, is when he became President.

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Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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^^^ Cool, but be aware that there is the easy-to-ignore-shit level of bourbon intake... then, a little past that, there is the "point at screen and say HA! loudly level of bourbon." Then, a little past that is the "look around the bar and say 'Can you believe this shit?' level of bourbon." Then, a little past that...never mind, we don't even want to go there. Big Grin


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No, we don't want to go there. I've decided to take a breather a hit the Chick-fil-A.


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