The less the folks in DC do the better for the rest of us. They take much and waste or steal even more. Every day they spend squabbling over who is in charge is a day they are not sticking it to us even worse.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Since the Speakership can be someone other than a Congress member. I would love to see

Donald J. Trump. The next Speaker of the House.

I thought of that, but he has another more important role to play in our future history.

There was no Plan B. Regardless of opinion on McCarthy, any replacement will be handicapped and the Democrats have been given the advantage. Also possible next Speaker could be Jeffries.

Chip Roy..

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Originally posted by wcb6092:

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Originally posted by bigwagon:

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Since the Speakership can be someone other than a Congress member. I would love to see

Donald J. Trump. The next Speaker of the House.

I thought of that, but he has another more important role to play in our future history.

DJT for Speaker, then get rid of Biden and Harris; 25th, impeach, whatever. Problem solved.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by wcb6092:

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Originally posted by bigwagon:

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Since the Speakership can be someone other than a Congress member. I would love to see

Donald J. Trump. The next Speaker of the House.

I thought of that, but he has another more important role to play in our future history.

DJT for Speaker, then get rid of Biden and Harris; 25th, impeach, whatever. Problem solved.

Might work if we had control of the Senate. No conviction to be found there with Dems in control.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
9 republicans

So 9 out of 221 (?) Republicans wanted him out. 212 didn’t want him out. And he’s out. That doesn’t seem right to me, no matter the politics and personalities involved, that a small minority has this much power. So now what’s the plan, Matty G? Neither him nor any of his hard right buddies have a chance of getting anywhere close 218 votes.

I guess there’s a temporary Speaker of the House right now, from a list picked by McCarthy himself. Unsurprisingly, it’s one of his buddies. Anyone know if there’s a time limit on how long this person can be the temporary Speaker? If someone else never gets 218 votes, do they remain Speaker until 2025 when the next Congress is seated?

And in other shocking news, McCarthy says he won’t run for the now vacant Majority leader position.

It took what, 16 or 18 tries for you to get voted in and now you just got voted out.


What makes you think they would change their mind?

It’s not fair? McCarthy was installed by the smallest of margins. And part of that small margin was the agreement that if he failed to live up to his promises he would be gone.

He failed to meet his obligations to conservatives. He was ousted. What isn’t “fair” about that? Should we continue to have a speaker that gives more to the dems than conservatives in your opinion? Or should we start fresh with someone else to see if they can live up to their word?

Interestingly, Dan Bongino weighed in on this also saying it wasn’t fair. His take was that McCarthy would cut a deal with Dems to stay in power. Bongino has become the king of gloom and doom in the last six months. I guess his focus groups tell him it’s the highest payout of advertising money. I miss Rush.

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
Politics at the national level is a team sport. When you are already in the minority, and thus don't get to drive the bus, you sure as hell don't let a minority of your own team kamikaze that bus, and that is what Gaetz has done.

I know my opinion isn't popular here among the burn it down crowd, but what, exactly, is the plan?

The country needs a functioning government, and this is third world failed state bullshit.

I don't disagree at all.

What's the plan? Judging by the 210 Republicans who voted against his ouster, I'd say it's a safe bet that there isn't one.

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Originally posted by jljones:
It’s not fair? McCarthy was installed by the smallest of margins. And part of that small margin was the agreement that if he failed to live up to his promises he would be gone.

He failed to meet his obligations to conservatives. He was ousted. What isn’t “fair” about that? Should we continue to have a speaker that gives more to the dems than conservatives in your opinion? Or should we start fresh with someone else to see if they can live up to their word?

Bingo! Continue with the same failed method over and over again expecting a different outcome is no way to run anything.

politicians are weird

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politicians are weird crooked, evil sons of bitches

Fixed it.

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Originally posted by sse:
politicians are weird crooked, evil sons of bitches

Fixed it.

I don't know whether they bring those qualities with them, but they sure do surface after a while.

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Originally posted by jljones:
It’s not fair? McCarthy was installed by the smallest of margins. And part of that small margin was the agreement that if he failed to live up to his promises he would be gone.

He failed to meet his obligations to conservatives. He was ousted. What isn’t “fair” about that? Should we continue to have a speaker that gives more to the dems than conservatives in your opinion? Or should we start fresh with someone else to see if they can live up to their word?

That is exactly what happened. The Democrats that McCarthy was in bed with stabbed him in the back. He thought they would run cover for him.

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Originally posted by wxl:
There was no Plan B. Regardless of opinion on McCarthy, any replacement will be handicapped and the Democrats have been given the advantage. Also possible next Speaker could be Jeffries.

Exactly why would any replacement be handicapped?

Re: Jefferies, in order for him to become Speaker, he would need the support of some (at least six!) Republicans uni-party RINOS, and as bad as they are, I can't see that happening.

How long will it take to replace McCarthy, and what important actions will be stalled during that process?
And will such stall be a big deal or not?

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Originally posted by stickman428:
What a time to be alive!!!

There's the Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times!"

I'm trying to steady my nerves by reminding myself that uncertainty of outcome is the most pressing thing to contend with for the immediate future.

Burn it all down might be okay if you have a plan to rebuild, but there is no plan.

The White House is in Democratic hands. The Senate is in Democratic hands. Republicans have a very slim four vote majority in the house. The only way to move this country in a more conservative direction is to elect more Republicans. Many more. I can't believe that this is going to result in the election of more Republicans.