Some more documents were released in 2023. I've read some, and nothing to spice things up.

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2023

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HRK:
61 Years ago today JFK was assassinated

Who did it,

I have followed this thread for a while. I had me thinking. I have two questions. Take a look at Dealy Plaza on your favorite mapping app for reference


#1 If my prime objective was to get the president from the airport to the trade center would I

Have the limo go straight through the intersection and to the underpass? Or would I have the limo make a 90 deg turn off of main onto Houston go the short block to Elm, in the shade of several tall buildings
take another turn at a greater than 90 deg, almost to a stop where the RF tire of the limo ran up on to the curb then move sedately down Elm into a kil zone.

Or proceed straight on Main to the underpass and to the trade center?

#2 If my only objective for the day was to put a bullet into the president, when the limo made the right and at a crawl was coming almost straight at me
would I take the shot?

You've posted twice in this thread. Both times, you have posed these cryptic questions. Why don't you try speaking plainly and saying what you mean?

Try it. It may be new to you, but you'd be doing everyone- including yourself- a favor by making yourself understood.

The motorcade route was laid out to give people a chance to glimpse the President, and in 1963, the thought of assassination, while not altogether absent, was far more remote than what it is today, as exhibited by the President of the United States riding past untold numbers of spectators in a convertible.

Hindsight is 20/20. If you are trying to suggest that the motorcade route was laid out to make Kennedy a target, you're barking up the wrong tree.

If there is a post number three from you in this thread, I suggest that you keep the mystery to a minimum.

OK. I'm gonna solve this shit, once and for all... **

According the Mick Jagger, as told by Keith Richards, who is older than God.


Who killed the Kennedy's?

It was you.

And, me.

So.... can we get back to the SIGforum cat thread, already?


A "going away" shot... is better than a "coming at you" shot.

If you have ever had to shoot anything moving, (photo or firearm), you would understand this.


Q "How do you kill woman and children?"

A "You just don't lead them as much."

Fuck the "shovel", I got the T shirt. (IYKYK)


**all the conspiracy kool-aid drinking sumbitches...

(Or, people that have never thought/reasoned anything from the point of reality, but have imagined every possibility from the place of their fantasies.)

Damn that was painful ..

The answers to all these questions and more are already out there and easy enough to find in several books on the subject.
Even the Warren Report itself is pretty well done, considering.

Both of these are available on Amazon and excellent.
If you get the Kindle version, they are searchable by subject (and usually less expensive) so if any of these conspiracy theories pops into your head, you don't need to read the whole book to find the answer.
Reading the book does give a much better understanding of the whole subject however.

Can't make it much easier.

Then come back here and see how many of these questions need to be asked again and again and again.

Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK, Gerald Posner

Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Vincent Bugliosi

The dedication to Bugliosi's massive work (1507 pages, not including the 958 pages of end notes and 168 pages of source notes) should (but likely doesn't) give all the conspiracy theorists something to ponder while they are throwing out unsubstantiated claims in all directions and misinterpreting facts:

To the historical record, knowing that nothing in the present can exist without the paternity of history, and hence, the latter is sacred, and should never be tampered with or defiled by untruths.

Shamelessly purloined from the interweb:

Dan, do you find that diagram to be accurate?

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Dan, do you find that diagram to be accurate?

I have no clue whatsoever.

This is the problem with the dissemination of information about this event- facts are skewed, either intentionally or by mistake, or conspiracy theorists with an agenda simply manufacture and peddle falsehoods. Then, people not familiar with the actual facts repeat these fallacies and off we go.

The drawing you posted which shows the supposed path of the (not) pristine bullet (refer to earlier in this thread) is wrong in two ways: the point at which the bullet struck Kennedy, and the position of Connally.

The drawing you posted shows that the bullet struck inches lower than it actually did.


Here is a drawing made from the autopsy photographs of Kennedy, showing the actual position of the entry wound.



The autopsy photographs do exist, so why a drawing? In order to show internal anatomy in relation to the bullet hole.



Always overlooked by the smirking proponents of the "magical bullet" is the fact that Connally was seated in a jump seat in the limousine, which positioned him lower in the vehicle than Kennedy, and slightly inboard of Kennedy.

Here is a photograph of the limousine leaving Love Field en-route for the motorcade, showing the relative positions of these two men.





This still from a computer animation from Fred Juentz of Artimation of Arizona shows the path of the bullet. Having slowed substantially by the time the bullet exited Connally's chest, it bounced off of Connally's wrist and embedded itself in his left thigh, and was then found on Connally's stretcher at Parkland Memorial Hospital.



All images obtained from Bugliosi's Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, here reproduced under the Fair Use Provision of the Copyright Act.

That diagram looks like the diagram used by Costner in the movie JFK.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least, given that Stone's film, while technically brilliant as a work of cinematic art, is a steaming load of horse shit when it comes to the truth.

I can't recall if it was used in that film but I've seen this drawing many times.

quote:

Originally posted by parabellum:
Then, people not familiar with the actual facts repeat these fallacies and off we go.

Again and again and ….

And unfortunately a single sentence (or less) caption to a diagram that is a complete misrepresentation of what actually happened is far easier for people to read, accept as truth, and then remember forever than doing something like reading a book that contains a myriad details about verifiable facts: “Heaven forbid. Who has time for that? Besides, I found it on the Internet; it couldn’t be there if it wasn’t true.”

[QUOTE]Originally posted by HRK:
61 Years ago today JFK was assassinated

Who did it,


Follow the link https://www.jfk.org/the-site/motorcade/ . It is an interactive series of photos and videos that track the motorcade from the airport to Parkland Hospital. Go to #30. Listen to the interview with the young man who was near the sidewalk on Elm as the car went by.
If you search you will find photos of he and wife laying on the grass covering their children. The interview was done not long after the president was shot.

Listen to his description of the bullet impact to the presidents head. It doesn’t tell you who shot the president. But I dare say it is indicative of who didn’t. Others in the same area mention shots come from behind them.

In the 1st post I didn’t say who shot the president but I did say who didn’t. Listen to the podcast at the link I provided. Start about 40 min RFK Jr says who he believes was responsible for the murder of his uncle. Continue a few more minutes. Jr gives an account of the shooting at the Ambassador Hotel June 5-6 1968. t is very interesting. Same people were responsible for both.

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RFK Jr says who he believes was responsible for the murder of his uncle

Hardly a credible source (RFK Jr.)and zero actual evidence provided to back up any of these claims.

Eyewitness accounts of most crimes are considered to be very unreliable and there is plenty of actual evidence here to show why. This is just another example.

Interesting from a at least a good story teller, whether accurate or not ??