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Originally posted by smschulz:
Interesting from a at least a good story teller, whether accurate or not ??

Yes it was.

I wouldn’t be surprised if declassification yielded a Geraldo Rivera-esque anti climax. Remember Al Capone’s vault opening special?

Oompa-Loompas. It was the fucking Oompa-Loompas.

And it's turtles all the way down.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
I wouldn’t be surprised if declassification yielded a Geraldo Rivera-esque anti climax. Remember Al Capone’s vault opening special?

If people were honest, that's how it would turn out, but as sure as I live and breathe, the conspiracy fanatics will take the 'nothing' which is found in these files and embroider it with fantasy.

No matter what they find or do not find in those files, they will not accept the glaringly obvious truth that has been staring us in the face for six decades.

I'll guess nothing will be revealed for a while as the top page in the file likely doesn't say "Mr. X did it"

Actually it does name who did it. Not sure what page but it’s there.
And goes on to show the evidence that hasn’t really changed since the 60’s.
We knew who within the day and in a few weeks had almost all the real evidence. A bit more of the details dribbled out in the following years but nothing to really challenge the conclusion.

I agree, Parabellum.

Ok, so why did Trump originally claim the files were too explosive to release during his first term? Or is that the info that's redacted? I'm most interested in knowing why keeping this stuff sealed for six decades was deemed such a critical measure and who stands to be embarrassed or incriminated by its being made public.

Yes, it's an established fact that Donald Trump never exaggerates.

In his first term, President Trump relied heavily on what he was told by others.

Two conspiracy theorists die and go to heaven.

When they reach the Pearly Gates, Saint Peter tells them that before entering heaven, they are entitled to the answer to one question. The question can be about anything.

After pondering for a while, the conspiracy theorists ask the question, "Who shot John F. Kennedy?"

Saint Peter answers, "Lee Harvey Oswald, and he was acting alone."

As the gates open up, and they walk through, one conspiracy theorist turns to the other and says, "This cover-up reaches higher up than I thought!"

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Two conspiracy theorists die and go to heaven.

When they reach the Pearly Gates, Saint Peter tells them that before entering heaven, they are entitled to the answer to one question. The question can be about anything.

After pondering for a while, the conspiracy theorists ask the question, "Who shot John F. Kennedy?"

Saint Peter answers, "Lee Harvey Oswald, and he was acting alone."

As the gates open up, and they walk through, one conspiracy theorist turns to the other and says, "This cover-up reaches higher up than I thought!"

Now that’s quite funny!

There is a reason the files have been kept secret this long. Something embarrassing is in there. Either something salacious about important people, or dirty illegal actions by the government. It makes no sense to keep the information hidden if there is nothing to hide. I don't even see a benefit to the government in keeping the conspiracy theory industry going.

It might have seemed incredibly important to someone at the time, but our government has - for at least 100 years - misunderstood how the public reacts to things. Case in point: UFOs. The explanation always given for covering up information on UFOs is fear of public reaction. I think an alien spacecraft could land in the hayfield across from me, and the biggest reaction would be a county deputy telling the aliens that they were trespassing while the farmer bitches about the damage to his field.

When they release the JFK / RFK / MLK files, the reaction is going to be, "Really? That's it? What was the great secrecy about?"

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Originally posted by Fly-Sig:
It makes no sense to keep the information hidden if there is nothing to hide.

You are, most likely, the most optimistic member of this forum. Expecting- no- being assured of common sense from the federal government? That's the spirit!

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I don't even see a benefit to the government in keeping the conspiracy theory industry going.

Further remarkable optimism from you. Nothing- and I do mean nothing- will discourage the people who buy into all the fantasy. Extensive evidence of the plain truth has been available for decades, and in the face of all of it, they refuse to believe anything except that everything we've been shown and told is an effort to mislead us.

It's fun, you see? It's great fun to think that they, alone, can solve the puzzle.

I hate to be negative! I am positive there will be some entertaining, embarrassing, and shameful revelations in those files. But all of no consequence today, as all those people are likely long dead or extremely elderly.

If anyone cares to read the published files that have redactions, you can see by the context that they are mostly boring clerical type issues.

The truth is that another generation or so and few beyond the hardcore conspiracy junkies will even care.

Just ask a few younger adults a few Kennedy questions and see how many have any real understanding of what his policies were, which party he was a member of, etc.

It's more likely that there are a few interesting things in the MLK Jr. stuff. Like how an ignorant low IQ guy like him was able to flee the country.
Even then, not a high level conspiracy.

It's like some folks are fighting NOT to release anything . What the hell . Dump it out there and be done with it . Believe it or don't . Be shocked and amazed , or not . People will always question the findings anyway .

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
I wouldn’t be surprised if declassification yielded a Geraldo Rivera-esque anti climax. Remember Al Capone’s vault opening special?

Forget about JFk for a moment and look at a bigger picture. If you did something you didn't want anyone to know about, would you write it down and stick it in a file cabinet somewhere?

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Forget about JFk for a moment and look at a bigger picture. If you did something you didn't want anyone to know about, would you write it down and stick it in a file cabinet somewhere?

Exactly! IF there was something nefarious and controversial in the files (and I'm not saying there is), what leads you to believe it would actually STILL be in there?

It's nice they're releasing the JFK, RFK, and MLK files. Given the Grandson's reaction about [paraphrase]JFK not being here to defend himself[/paraphrase], I suspect we're going to find out something about his last 24 hours (e.g. played hide the salami with someone who wasn't his wife) that has nothing to do with who killed him.

However, voters voted for change so I'd rather they right a current wrong. Release the Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell client list and files of who did what. Name the pedos who are politicians, heads of industry, celebrities, etc.