^^^Liberals would rather die than offend the precious Mohammedans.

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Originally posted by BMR:
^^^Liberals would rather die than offend the precious Mohammedans.

That is literally true. But I think it has more to do with shame. They would rather die than be stigmatized-- and shamed-- as "racists" and "bigots."

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All this is discussed in great detail in the book Guns and Violence: The English Experience by Joyce Lee Malcolm. If one likes true modern horror stories that will chill the blood of anyone who believes as St. George Tucker did in 1803 that “Self-defence is the first law of nature,” I strongly recommend it.[/QUOTE]

I second this recommendation. Excellent book, shows how the attitude of the government change in regards to the right of people to defend themselves.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

“Shut up mate,” responds a man close to the camera. “You f****g idiot. It’s not Muslims.”

Who's the idiot again?

I mean, who did he really imagine that it was? The godforsaken Mormons again? Pathetic.

I hate coming off as callous or as an ass, but my opinion is my own, and right or wrong there's logic to it.

The inept governments, both there and here, are elected. The buffoons who are causing this by bending over backwards at great expense, to import third world heathens, were chosen by the people, specifically for who and what they are.

Our own courts have restricted our presidents attempts to halt the further importation of religious fanatics. These people can't possibly afford to come here. Our own elected officials and thier lackeys, seek out these heathens and pay dearly to bring them here. They give them money seized from taxpayers, so they can start their new lives here!

It's surreal!

They have the government they chose. They live with the consequences they collectively chose. Once it gets bad enough to wake them up, they will fix it the same way.

My plan is to survive until it's bad enough that people wake up and stop voting for pantywastes. Schumer, Pelosi, Waters, and thier English versions all won elections. They, and thier policies were chosen and voted into office.

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Originally posted by BMR:
^^^Liberals would rather die than offend the precious Mohammedans.

Yep. Leftists have become apologists for the followers (and imitators) of a 6th century, mass murdering psychopath.

The major tenets of the Mohammedan death cult are simply incompatible with Western civilization. Though many here in the West would rather watch their children die than admit it.

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Originally posted by 6guns:

PM Theresa May On Defeating Terrorism: Yes, That Means Taking Military Action’
June 4, 2017 By Robert Gehl

The first change would be to realize that the solution is not a permanent counter-terrorism effort, but defeating the ideology itself through making people understand that “pluralistic British values” are “superior to anything offered” by an extremist ideology.

Her second focus is on an end to “safe spaces” online for extremists. “We need to work with allied democratic governments to reach international agreements that regulate cyberspace to prevent the spread of extremist and terrorism planning,” she said.

Her third focus is going to be on those same “safe spaces” that the terrorists occupy in the real world.

“We must not forget about the safe spaces that continue to exist in the real world. Yes, that means taking military action to destroy Isis in Iraq and Syria,” she said.

#1 is a non-starter. The people who hate you believe their quickest way to Paradise is to kill you. They believe you are an infidel idiot, capable and worthy of being destroyed. Any deception is fair, any level of cruelty is fair, any strategy is fair, the greater and bloodier the scope, the better. Their dream is to wake up tomorrow with every unbeliever dead. Billions, if necessary. And nothing you do will make them stop hating you, ever.

#2 is a false hope, because they are as good as you are in the use of cyberspace now, sometimes better. Regulations and "international agreements" will prove as ineffective as they have been.

#3 will be necessary, and will now require destroying part of your own country and civilization. Chemotherapy, if you will, more successful the sooner applied. Potentially lethal on its own. May the patient survive and recover.

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Originally posted by BMR:
^^^Liberals would rather die than offend the precious Mohammedans.

Not quite. Liberals would rather other people die than offend the precious Mohammedans. You don't see any of these airheads volunteering to do outreach missions in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Syria to further their beliefs. They think we need their input on how they feel, and their sense of self worth dictates that the lives are others are worth the price to be paid to be trendy and tolerant.

They really aren't committed to the whole dying thing.

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Originally posted by BMR:
^^^Liberals would rather die than offend the precious Mohammedans.

Can we offer them up first?

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Originally posted by BMR:
^^^Liberals would rather die than offend the precious Mohammedans.

Sounds like a good deal to me. Let them do the dying.

flashguy

We are witnessing unimaginable evil and people are attacking those who want to prevent them. I said this earlier, but it really is a mental disorder.

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Originally posted by rh:

Wahhabism funded by radical money from Saudi Arabia.

Several flaws with your pointer only at Wahhabism:

Wahhabism is a sect of sunni islam. Shia muslim states (e,g, iran) and wealthy individuals support massive amounts of terrorism as well.

Too small of a focus only looking at the ME (part of Asia). South Asia and SE Asia have 2x as many Muslims as ME. N Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa has as many Muslims as ME.

Thank you for pointing out the lack of substance in my post. I had heard of Wahhabism and suggestions of its connections to these religiously motivated terrorist attacks for a while, but had not studied it much until recently. I did read the Wikipedia entry on Wahhabism and learned of more of Sunnis and Shias.

I am trying to generally understand current global events, but I am having problems find information on the Internet that does not have an agenda. This seemed to be a good article, madrassas, but then when I went to read the full interview, I noticed the interview was conducted on Oct. 25, 2001. Even though it is dated, the "authority on Islamic fundamentalism" seems to have made an accurate analysis, including Iran's involvement.

Edited to add: The dated but informative PBS article above contains the following excerpt, which is what I meant by "funding" by Wahhabism :

"You said that the main source of funding for these Islamic extremists You said that the main source of funding for these Islamic extremists--

Or at least the institutions that train them.

-- is whom?

"It's Saudi Arabia and its network of charities and the like. The argument I make is that there is an undercurrent of terror and fanaticism that go hand in hand in the Afghanistan-Pakistan arc, and extend all the way to Uzbekistan. And you can see reflections of it in Bosnia, in Kosovo, in Indonesia, in the Philippines."



I made my first post very soon after reading this article 'Sensitive' UK terror funding inquiry may never be published .

After reading those articles, my understanding is that in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Saudia Arabia, our ally, funded charities teaching of their Islamic views to support the Muslims' war against the Soviets. That war is long over, but many clerics are still teaching Wahhabism and encouraging Jihad against Western civilization?

As a question to anyone who knows more about this than me, is that about right?

P.S. I was not meaning to argue with Sigmonkey in my flawed, forked post. I'll leave that at that.

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My comment, readings, and question about Wahhabism have now become more relevant. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are the two Wahhabi / Salafi dominant nations in the Middle East.

There will be more updated news when most of SIGforum is awake, but Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates have now followed Egypt and broken diplomatic relations with Qatar. CNN currently has the most informative article that I can find that doesn't require a subscription: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/05/...ar-terror/index.html

This is currently relevant to the topic since Saudi Arabia cut off ties to "protect national security from the dangers of terrorism and extremism." I am taking a break my crash course for, but the details of allegations of Qatar praising Shiite dominated Iran are in the article.

The start of a new week and the continuation of Europe's rotting from within from political correctness, self-hatred, moral relativism and rampant Islamism.

My feeling is that Islam is a totalitarian political movement that seeks the subjugation of humanity, or its destruction in the attempt. It is not compatible with a modern, civilized society. Unfortunately, it's more modern (chronologically-speaking) twin, Leftism/Statism/Socialism has the same goals, minus the pseudo-religious trappings, and has definitely formed an alliance of convenience with the former. Bad as the situation is, things are going to get a whole lot uglier because the solutions outlined by Hopkins and Goldman, which are fairly tame in my view all things considered, will not be implemented.

http://ace.mu.nu/

I didn't realize he got elected to Congress. Way to go LA. A touch extra-constitutional, but it is about the right attitude for the times.


Congressman Says Every ‘Single Radicalized Islamic Suspect’ Should Be Killed

Republican Louisiana Rep. Clay Higgins wrote on his Facebook page Sunday that “every single Islamic suspect” should be hunted down and killed.

“The free world… all of Christendom… is at war with Islamic horror,” the Louisiana congressman wrote in a post containing a picture from Saturday’s terrorist attack in London. Higgins was a Louisiana sheriff’s deputy before running for Congress, and was known nationwide for his tough talking videos targeting wanted criminals.

In one viral video, he told suspected gang members, “You will be hunted, you will be trapped, and if you raise your weapon to a man like me we will return fire with superior fire.”

Higgins has continued to use this style of rhetoric while in Congress. His Facebook post went on to say: “Not one penny of American treasure should be granted to any nation who harbors these heathen animals. Not a single radicalized Islamic suspect should be granted any measure of quarter.

“Their intended entry to the American homeland should be summarily denied. Every conceivable measure should be engaged to hunt them down. Hunt them, identity them, and kill them,” Higgins wrote. “Kill them all. For the sake of all that is good and righteous. Kill them all.”

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06...ct-should-be-killed/


this is Clay Higgins in his prior job:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Interesting. Seems like when this video first came out everyone was going to go investigate etc. I think I even remember hearing some noise about the DOJ looking in to him.

Congressman Higgins has a nice ring to it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...police-launch-fresh/

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Originally posted by jehzsa:
I'm impressed by the speed with which arrests were made after the attack. That tells me that the British authorities have pretty much their act together.

There is another possibility and it's in the Tommy Robinson video in this thread. The British police know who the 3500 terrorist are in their country, but can't do anything until there is an event. They already have the 3500 people under surveillance and make quick arrests after the fact.

It'd be more impressive if they caught them while building their fake bomb canisters instead of 8 minutes after they had injured can killed.

I'm pleased the response was fairly quick, but there's nothing particularly impressive about an 8min response time in a city and country with SIGNIFICANT video surveillance all over the damn place. Of course it's kind of fast, there are cameras everyfuckingwhere.