Teresa Collett, J.D., is a professor at the University of St. Thomas School of Law

Collett:

“I don't watch football. I don't care about football. But I do care about constitutional literacy.

Please stop saying football players have first amendment rights to disregard the direction of their private employers while engaged in privately sponsored activities -- which is what NFL football games are,” said Collett, a professor at the University of St. Thomas School of Law.

“They have no more constitutional protection for their expressive activities than I do for mine at my private Catholic university. Any 'rights' they have are based on their contracts and employment law.”

http://www.intellectualtakeout...neel-during-national

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First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Very interesting if this happens.

A major sponsor thinking of ending their sponsorship due to the kneelers.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2...nt-to-hear-from-you/

The phone line they have setup went down yesterday due to the quantity of calls.

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Originally posted by archerman:
Very interesting if this happens.

A major sponsor thinking of ending their sponsorship due to the kneelers.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2...nt-to-hear-from-you/

The phone line they have setup went down yesterday due to the quantity of calls.

Whoa!

Now that will get the NFL's attention real quick.

I'm unlikely to call because I don't drink Bud. (Unless that's all there is and it's free.) But I'll say this: AB can hardly purport to be "America's beer" while supporting a bunch of highly-compensated anti-American misfits.

As an aside: There was an interesting segment on a very talented up-and-coming American born and bred soccer player on 60 Minutes last night. (We were just waiting for Wisdom of the Crowd to come on.) The crowd sizes shown, and the lines for this guy's signature, were impressive.

NFL's in deep kimchi, I think...

weak owner caves to players

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/l...nthem-034158349.html


Detroit Lions owner Martha Ford asked her players to not kneel for the national anthem. She did not threaten to fire anyone who did.

Ford offered a solution that seemed fair to all sides. The Detroit Free Press said in a meeting with players she asked them to not kneel and offered to “donate both money and her name to community issues at the heart of the players’ cause.”

The Lions players told the Free Press they were happy with the compromise with Ford. It seems like a constructive way to make change with social injustice, which is what Colin Kaepernick wanted when he first started protesting during the anthem.

“She just asked us not to take the knee and basically told us – not basically, she told us she would back and support financially as well as put her name on whatever issues that we wanted to try to attack,” Washington told the Detroit Free Press.

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Originally posted by KevinCW:
When I am in my official capacity, I'm not allowed to have the luxury of personal opinions.

I think it should be the same everywhere. When in the employ of whatever entity pays your check, you should differ to their ideals and wishes..

When you are on your own time, then do whatever you want.

Just like me, If i was in my capacity as a representative of my job... no protest either way, no opinion at all.

On my own time... sure. say or act whatever/however you want.

Hell KevinCW, even in our off duty time, we are not allowed to express an opinion in most things because it will generate a complaint from a SJW scouring all our on line posts and facebook activity. Look at all the cops jammed up for their on line activity. Remember the Glendale cop who posted about the Ferguson protestors/rioters acting like animals? Remember Maria Chappelle-Nadal (the one who wanted President Trump assassinated but was only censured, not fired) was leading the charge to have the officer fired.

I have cop friend who does WWII re-enactments and he WAS a German Wehrmacht actor but has switched to the Allies because he didn't want to be accused of being a Nazi.

I don't know how many times I have written lengthy posts and then subsequently cancelled them instead of posting.

I always thought if I was a sneaky ambulance chasing lawyer who was born out wedlock, I would have my smoking hot paralegal show up at a cop bar and secretly record off duty cops drinking and talking shit (aka The Fuhrman Plan)......just saying.

Now the narrative is switching to the President trying to destroy the NFL because they wouldn't let him in. Keep throwing blame around and hope it sticks some where.

Trump, protesting players won't give NFL any relief in heated national anthem debate

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/t...ebate-020403616.html

For decades, the doctrine has driven the NFL to unprecedented fiscal peaks: Spread the product, grow the profit, mitigate financial slides, enhance the brand. And above all else, steer away from the downward slopes of division, ones that include issues of race, politics, economics, domestic violence and brain trauma.

Rinse. Repeat. Collect billions.

Then came Sept. 22, when President Donald Trump’s administration opened beneath the NFL, devouring commissioner Roger Goodell and the 32 franchises that employ him. This isn’t a slippery slope, mind you. It’s a sinkhole with no bottom in sight. That’s where the NFL finds itself today, having fallen into a political void with no easy way out. Entangled with a president who won’t stop, won’t forget, and who very well may rip apart an entire league – so long as he gains some advantage in the process.

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And, of course, there’s always that business of Trump having been shut out of the NFL for decades. Hell hath no fury like a president scorned.

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Originally posted by Tuckerrnr1:
Equality huh, so where are all the transgender cheerleaders?

I doubt they’d want the job, it pays peanuts. They are more worried about minimum wage increases at the local MacDonalds where new drywall is being put in.

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Originally posted by sdy:
Teresa Collett, J.D., is a professor at the University of St. Thomas School of Law

Collett:

“I don't watch football. I don't care about football. But I do care about constitutional literacy.

Please stop saying football players have first amendment rights to disregard the direction of their private employers while engaged in privately sponsored activities -- which is what NFL football games are,” said Collett, a professor at the University of St. Thomas School of Law.

“They have no more constitutional protection for their expressive activities than I do for mine at my private Catholic university. Any 'rights' they have are based on their contracts and employment law.”

http://www.intellectualtakeout...neel-during-national

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First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Teresa Collett is exactly right.
All of these people talking about freedom of speech, and right to express themselves..,, they are all full of shit.

This is an employment matter.
They are free to speak out and express themselves on their own time.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:

“The NFL and our players are at our best when we help create a sense of unity in our country and our culture,” Goodell said in a statement.

Then let them start doing just that, Goodell, you whiny imbecilic eunuch.



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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Now the narrative is switching to the President trying to destroy the NFL because they wouldn't let him in. Keep throwing blame around and hope it sticks some where.

They have to deceive by deflection. Their position is indefensible. There's no way out so they have to distract the hounds. Don't believe a thing they say from now on. They are caught, suffering and desperate.

I DOUBLE DOG DARE one of these overpaid, prima-donna SOB's to kneel tonight. I dare you!

ESPN will show national anthem on Monday Night Football, reverses decision due to Las Vegas massacre

I would not be surprised if one or some of them did kneel tonight. They are just that arrogant, self important and privileged. In fact I may be surprised if they do all stand, salute and participate.

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Originally posted by PASig:
I DOUBLE DOG DARE one of these overpaid, prima-donna SOB's to kneel tonight. I dare you!

ESPN will show national anthem on Monday Night Football, reverses decision due to Las Vegas massacre

Yes, this is one of those whatcha call 'perfect storms'. It would be a very bad idea to kneel during the anthem tonight. If the NFL thinks they've seen angry fans, they haven't seen anything yet.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by PASig:
I DOUBLE DOG DARE one of these overpaid, prima-donna SOB's to kneel tonight. I dare you!

ESPN will show national anthem on Monday Night Football, reverses decision due to Las Vegas massacre

Yes, this is one of those whatcha call 'perfect storms'. It would be a very bad idea to kneel during the anthem tonight. If the NFL thinks they've seen angry fans, they haven't seen anything yet.

QFT

If the NFL were smart, they would use this as a turning point.

They could spin it, that it is time for the Nation to come back together in light of the tragedy in Las Vegas.

Lay the law down with the players.
Any more disrespect on the field and you are gone.

This would be the obvious course of action, will the NFL be smart enough to take advantage of this tragedy?

Will the players be smart enough?

Regardless, I am done with watching, however many would return.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by sdy:


First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Teresa Collett is exactly right.
All of these people talking about freedom of speech, and right to express themselves..,, they are all full of shit.

This is an employment matter.
They are free to speak out and express themselves on their own time.

And as we have seen today, maybe not even then.

The government will not jail you for what you say, but your fellow citizens might realize you are an insufferable prick and react accordingly.

Got a letter from my school district today

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Originally posted by a1abdj:
Got a letter from my school district today

I have a reply for your superintendent:

Fuck you, David Buck. Grow a pair and show some leadership, you spineless prick.

(This is why we opted out of public education 6 years ago).

I went to Middle School and high school in the 80's. I'm not sure if any of my teachers was a Veteran - most of them were too old for Vietnam but too young for WWII. Maybe one of the older fellows could have served in Korea though.

That said, I remember 1st period shop class in 8th grade. Some joker didn't properly face the flag or put his hand on his heart, or say the pledge right, I can't remember which, and the shop teacher jumped in his face and showed him in no uncertain terms he damn well was going to say the pledge right. I don't remember any issues after that, and I don't remember the teacher getting any "administrative leave" for his actions. Ever class, every year, it was a basic expectation. Guess it's all optional now.

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Originally posted by PASig:
I DOUBLE DOG DARE one of these overpaid, prima-donna SOB's to kneel tonight. I dare you!

ESPN will show national anthem on Monday Night Football, reverses decision due to Las Vegas massacre

Have you met Marcus Peters? He had the good taste not to stand tonight.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player...578378/marcus-peters