^^^nope trying to understand crazy is.... well...

51 pages and all we know is a name, weapons, and cars. Color me not interested in this pscopath anymore.

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Originally posted by cas:
He might just be another whackadoo who wanted his shot at immortality knowing media would make him a household name.

That's basically what Pat Buchanan was saying last night on Hannity. Here's his column:

The Dead Soul of Stephen Paddock
By Patrick Buchanan

What was his motive? Why did he do it?

Why did Stephen Paddock, 64, rent rooms at the Mandalay Bay hotel, sneak in an arsenal of guns, a dozen of them converted to fully automatic, and rain down death on a country music concert?

"We will never know," writes columnist Eugene Robinson.

"There can be no rational argument for mass murder ... nothing can really explain the decision to spray thousands of concert-goers with automatic weapons fire, killing at least 59 and injuring hundreds more."

But while there can be no justification for mass murder, there is an explanation. And like Edgar Allan Poe's "Purloined Letter," it is right there in front of us, in plain sight.

Having chosen to end his life, Paddock resolved to go out in a blaze of publicity. This nobody would leave this life as somebody we would have to remember. He would immortalize himself, as did Lee Harvey Oswald.

Reportedly, Paddock even filmed himself during his massacre.

Ex-Marine sniper Charles Whitman, who murdered his wife and mother, and then climbed up into the Texas University Tower in Austin, 50 years ago, to shoot down 46 people and kill 15, is the prototype.

Whitman's slaughter ended after 96 minutes when a cop climbed up in that tower and shot him. Yet, half a century on, Whitman remains famous. Many of us can yet recall his name and face.

Like Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold before Columbine, and Dylan Roof before his sickening atrocity at the black church in Charleston, Paddock wanted to live on as one of the great mass murderers in U.S. history. And he has succeeded. We are today paying him in the currency he craved. He is famous, and we have made him so.

Monday, the president spoke at the White House on the "act of pure evil" Paddock perpetrated Sunday night. Network and cable TV anchors and correspondents stampeded to Las Vegas to dig into his background and motivation.

Commentators discoursed on the meaning of it all. Congress is aflame with demands for gun laws against "bump stocks" that turn semiautomatic AR-15s and AK-47s to fully automatic. Paddock's deeds pushed Puerto Rico and North Korea out of the headlines. By Wednesday, Trump himself was in Vegas. Five days later, police and FBI are still searching for the "motive."

Whatever caused Paddock to conclude that ending his life was preferable to living it is not the crucial question. Suicides are not uncommon in America. About 3 of every 4 are carried out by white males; 121 are committed daily, with gunshot a common method.

The real question is what turned Paddock into a psychopath without conscience or a moral code that would scream to him that what he was planning was pure evil.

Unlike ISIS terrorists who believe they are soldiers of Islam doing the will of Allah, and will achieve paradise for slaughtering infidels, Stephen Paddock did not believe anything like this.

He coolly and patiently plotted mass murder almost for sport. He rented a hotel suite with windows overlooking a coming country music concert, his fighting fort. He ferried in, over five days, half his home arsenal of 40-some guns, with the semi-automatic assault rifles modified to fire fully automatic. He installed cameras to alert him to when police were about to break in and kill him. Then he smashed the windows on his 32nd floor suite, and began firing for 12 minutes.

Paddock murdered 59 people he did not know and against whom he had no grievance. How did he come to be a man who treated fellow humans as vermin? And does this say something about our civilization?

In "The Brothers Karamazov," novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky has his character Ivan say, "If God is dead, all things are permissible."

What Ivan meant is that if God does not exist, the idea of God's law, of heaven or hell as reward or punishment, is nonsense. And if it is, there is no man-made law that can deter men who have decided to "end it all."

Consider. Nevada has a death penalty for the mass murder Paddock was preparing to commit. But as he had already decided to end his life after shooting scores of innocent people, no death penalty or any other threatened state punishment could deter him.

Why not carry out his atrocity and end his life knowing that, within days, all of America would know who Stephen Paddock was?

In Shakespeare, Hamlet declares, "Conscience doth make cowards of us all." And so, fearing damnation, Hamlet recoils from ending his life or exacting revenge on the king he believes seduced his mother into complicity in the murder of his father.

In Stephen Paddock, the conscience was dead. He was a dead soul, a moral nihilist, a post-Christian man in a post-Christian age, a monster.

Yet, we are going to see more such men, for we no longer have a convincing answer to that oldest of questions, "Why not?"

https://www.creators.com/read/pat-buchanan

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Originally posted by Dtech:
Anyone else think that the other reservations mentioned about the different venues over a period of time may have just been him either legitimately planning to attend those events and not going or maybe even done on purpose as part of the planning to make it seem he was looking for any venue to do his harm as opposed to a more specific venue / motive?

My understanding is that he did not keep those reservations. If he had, in IL or MA those would have been long trips with all that cargo, and the potential of being discovered.

He might have attended without the weapons to get a feel for the angles and measurements.

He might have made reservations out of paranoia, thinking someone was on to him.

Or he might have just been crazy.

Probably crazy, perhaps with his craziness stoked up by the divisive, hateful media, or just crazy.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by cas:
He might just be another whackadoo who wanted his shot at immortality knowing media would make him a household name.

That's basically what Pat Buchanan was saying last night.

I think this is correct. Murdererfuckwit was a plain old fashioned psychopath, who rather than be a serial murderer, was a mass murderer.

We know quite a bit about serial murderers, many of whom murdered more people than this murdererfuckwit. I wonder if there is a FBI psych profile of mass murderers too.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by cas:
He might just be another whackadoo who wanted his shot at immortality knowing media would make him a household name.

That's basically what Pat Buchanan was saying last night on Hannity.

Well gosh that's an interesting theory.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by cas:
He might just be another whackadoo who wanted his shot at immortality knowing media would make him a household name.

That's basically what Pat Buchanan was saying last night.

I think this is correct. Murdererfuckwit was a plain old fashioned psychopath, who rather than be a serial murderer, was a mass murderer.

We know quite a bit about serial murderers, many of whom murdered more people than this murdererfuckwit. I wonder if there is a FBI psych profile of mass murderers too.

FWIW: Before I retired as a LEO, I attended an international homicide conference hosted by the FBI and one of the presentations involved a Secret Service study on "Spree Killers." The bottom line the study noted is that while these personalities share some traits, there is no single common denominator that makes predicting these events possible. Their internal motivators are extremely varied even if the final results might seem to be similar at first glance.

Looking closely at the two killers (I refuse to even name them) that committed the atrocities at Columbine High School, it becomes quite obvious that one was the "leader" and the other was clearly a "follower" who would probably never had made such an attack had he not been so willing to take directions from an influential partner. This doesn't excuse #2 for his actions, but its worth noting how very different their motivations were when just compared with each other. Coming up with a "profile" for general application to those planning such attacks simply wasn't possible.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by cas:
He might just be another whackadoo who wanted his shot at immortality knowing media would make him a household name.

That's basically what Pat Buchanan was saying last night on Hannity.

Well gosh that's an interesting theory.

Yes, I think I heard that theory on page 2 or so.

Lol, still crushin it with the quips para

Shouldn't the NSA have a record of all his comms?

Stick with Para... he has good instincts.

from olfuzzy post on previous page:

"In a timeline of events, police confirmed that a security officer initially went up to the 32nd floor of the hotel because an alarm sounded, indicating that a door was left open."

maybe there was no fire alarm

another article about the same interview:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...as-attacker-paddock/

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Undersheriff Kevin McMahill told reporters during a Friday afternoon press conference that authorities have reviewed “voluminous” amounts of video footage and are confident there was not another shooter in a 32nd-floor hotel room with Stephen Paddock

McMahill went on to clarify that what authorities are not confident about is whether someone else had knowledge of the attack before it happened

McMahill also answered questions about reports that a key card was used to gain access to the room at the same time that Paddock’s vehicle was being operated. The undersheriff said that they do not have any evidence to support these reports. “I’m not aware of that,” he said when pressed on the issue.

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Originally posted by pulicords:
(I refuse to even name them)

As should everyone and everyone should refuse to name any of these murderers.

That’s what was disturbing about the article quoted above whose premise seemed to be “They do it for the everlasting notoriety they incur,” and yet the article helps do just that. Yes, I know the names of many of these people and will undoubtedly never forget them, but I will to the best of my ability refuse to perpetuate their names.

Families are already suing the shooter, hotel, and concert promoter.

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9927

Just days after the horrific massacre in Las Vegas, and just 5 miles away from the scene, a University of Nevada-Las Vegas professor told her class that President Trump is to blame.

UNLV Assistant Professor Tess Winkelmann is seen addressing her History 407 class.

She said President Trump “threatened nuclear violence against North Korea, and other places,” proclaiming that “words, especially coming from someone who is the President, have consequences.”

“When he got elected, I told my classes three semesters ago, some of us won’t be affected by this presidency, but others are going to die. Other people will die because of this.”
“I don’t know whether these events would have inevitably happened whether or not he got elected, but he has the same rhetorical powers every president has, to encourage or discourage,” she continued. “So far, all he has done is to encourage violence.”

video

https://youtu.be/M0Y3Me4JsAs

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https://www.unlv.edu/people/tessa-winkelmann

Biography
Tessa Ong Winkelmann hails from southern California, specifically the Coachella Valley. She received her B.A. at the University of California, Irvine(2005), her M.A. in Ethnic Studies at San Francisco State University (2008), and her Ph.D. in History at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (2015).

Her research interests are in the fields of U.S. in the world, empires and imperialism, ethnic studies, and gender and sexuality studies. In 2011 she was a Fulbright scholar in the Philippines, where she completed research for her dissertation and book manuscript tentatively titled, “Dangerous Intercourse: Race, Gender and Interracial Relations in the American Colonial Philippines, 1898 – 1946.” Her book project utilizes a transnational approach to examine a wide range of interracial sexual relationships -from the casual and economic to the formal and long term- between Americans and Filipinos in the overseas colony from 1898 to formal independence in 1946.

At UNLV she teaches courses on U.S. Foreign Relations, and Women and Gender history in a global perspective. She also hopes to offer an Asian American history course in the future.

Department: Department of History
Phone: 702-895-3173
Email: tessa.winkelmann@unlv.edu

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hayzooz Kristoos......the STUPID is strong with this one!

M.A. in Ethnic Studies? She obviously wasn't smart enough to study something useful.

flashguy

http://abc7.com/las-vegas-gunm...fore-attack/2500795/

LAS VEGAS (KABC) -- The woman who was seen with Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock days before the massacre was a prostitute, officials tell ABC News.

Authorities did not elaborate on the woman's identity.

Officials also believe he had help because of the amount of guns in his hotel room, and because some of the ammo was bought under someone else's name.

Also at the press conference, authorities spoke about the unarmed security guard, identified as Jesus Campos, who first found Paddock.

The door alarm on the 32nd floor went off - but it wasn't coming from Paddock's room. The alarm, which indicated that a room door is ajar, was the reason why Campos was dispatched to that floor.

wouldn't Campos have heard the ongoing shooting ? he went to check a door ajar, and someone fires 200 rounds down the hall

The night before the shooting, Paddock reportedly called in two noise complaints about guests in the room below him, sources tell ABC News.

Floyd Conrade was in that room on the night of the attack. He said he stayed in between the beds or in the bathroom as he hunkered down all night.

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Floyd Conrade was in that room on the night of the attack. He said he stayed in between the beds or in the bathroom as he hunkered down all night.

I think I would have just left.

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Originally posted by sdy:
http://abc7.com/las-vegas-gunm...fore-attack/2500795/

LAS VEGAS (KABC) -- The woman who was seen with Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock days before the massacre was a prostitute, officials tell ABC News.

Authorities did not elaborate on the woman's identity.

Officials also believe he had help because of the amount of guns in his hotel room, and because some of the ammo was bought under someone else's name.

Also at the press conference, authorities spoke about the unarmed security guard, identified as Jesus Campos, who first found Paddock.

The door alarm on the 32nd floor went off - but it wasn't coming from Paddock's room. The alarm, which indicated that a room door is ajar, was the reason why Campos was dispatched to that floor.

wouldn't Campos have heard the ongoing shooting ? he went to check a door ajar, and someone fires 200 rounds down the hall

The night before the shooting, Paddock reportedly called in two noise complaints about guests in the room below him, sources tell ABC News.

Floyd Conrade was in that room on the night of the attack. He said he stayed in between the beds or in the bathroom as he hunkered down all night.

I wonder if it was the prostitute that was accessing his room with his key card while he was taking his car out via valet?

If the room door was ajar - how did SWAT/LVPD breach it?

Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Undersheriff Kevin McMahill answered questions about reports that a key card was used to gain access to the room at the same time that Paddock’s vehicle was being operated. The undersheriff said that they do not have any evidence to support these reports. “I’m not aware of that,” he said when pressed on the issue.

and

The door alarm on the 32nd floor went off - but it wasn't coming from Paddock's room

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LAS VEGAS (KABC) -- The woman who was seen with Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock days before the massacre was a prostitute, officials tell ABC News.

Thank you Sam Spade! Man for the last week I have been asking myself, "self, why would a psychopath who knew he was going to die spend a night with a female who was a complete stranger?"