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| Knows too little about too much  |
I believe you are correct. In these situations, panic is a force multiplier for the perpetrator. I don't know if this guy thought about it in his planning. RMD TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…” Remember: After the first one, the rest are free. | |||
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I had the same thoughts lbj. How many of the 500+ injured were injured trying to escape vs being shot? Were the 59 dead all from a gsw? Haven't heard anything regarding g that yet and doesn't make it any less tragic, but is a valid point and I see no reason why you'd get flamed for your statement. | |||
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Only see bump stock on the .223 rifle but the rifle with the bipod appears to have a normal stock?   | |||
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| That rug really tied the room together.  |
The slidefire website is EXTREMELY slow right now. Took me like 2 minutes to load their page. I imagine they are getting a lot of traffic and heat right now. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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Speculation all day yesterday had the guns as 7.62 belt feds or Saws. Some theorized that he had 500,000.00 worth of NFA guns or that he had illegally modified beltfeds. Others speculated he had to have had terror network support to smuggle in weapons. This of course unleashed conspiracy hounds that ran wild. Some of them declared combat experience so they would know. Michael Savage asserted the windows could not have been broken by anything but a .30 full auto and that no one should have one....not even in semi auto. Now as facts are revealed they are anticlimactic. This is why speculation and news reports and talking head opinions are worthless. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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| Stop Talking, Start Doing |
I’m hearing chatter that an image of the dead guy is circulating and it’s the same carpet as you see in the weapons photo. I want to find it. _______________ Mind. Over. Matter. | |||
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| 4-H Shooting Sports Instructor  |
Video has been released that show the gun fire was coming from the 4th floor. I am not sure if there were more shooters? http://yournewswire.com/las-ve...eo-multiple-shootes/ I don't know how credible this source is but the video looks real _______________________________ 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but > because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton NRA Endowment Life member NRA Pistol instructor...and Range Safety instructor Women On Target Instructor. | |||
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Are there any broken windows on any floors other than the 32nd? I'm not sure that was gunfire from the 4th floor. | |||
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That looks more like someone was flickering a light in that room. Probably a setup after the fact. No other broken window. | |||
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It doesn't look like anything other than a reflection to me and I don't recall seeing any other broken out windows. Grasping for a motive when it was a madman. maybe he wanted to kill some conservatives. Looking for antifa connection is desperation. | |||
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Told cops where to go for over 29 years… |
Now, now, let’s not bring logic or reason in to this. How can two grainy, jerky videos be wrong? Probably used glass cutters (readily available on Amazon) to cut a firing port, then replaced the glass afterwards before making their escape. Never mind that people from adjoining rooms on the 4th floor weren’t calling 911 or the front desk like the ones on the 32 floor were. Of course the accomplishes probably tapped into the hotel switchboard and took it over like that episode of the A-Team. Real-life Illuminati shit...  What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???  | |||
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I am not promoting a conspiracy theory and understand there are a bunch conspiracy theorist that have jumped on this but I am not jumping to or drawing any conclusions. This is just raw video taken by a cab driver who pulls up, loops through the portico and then pulls away as dispatch advises them that there are shots fired (even though you can hear them in the video). Two things are striking, on the ground right outside the hotel no one seems to know anything is happening. The cab driver even rolls down the window and tells some loitering guest "there are shots fired". At the 4:50 point in the video the cab clears the portico and circles in front of the hotel as the shooter opens up again. Muzzle flashes are very clear only a few floors above the main entrance to the hotel. Not anywhere near the 32nd floor or the corner of the building. Again, maybe just a reflection with all of that bronze glass. https://youtu.be/fEf7HObspB0 ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
STOP with the conspiracy theory shit and don't post links to whacko websites. Guys, come on. One shooter- ONE SHOOTER. He's dead. No conspiracy- NO CONSPIRACY. Stop allowing the loons to fill your head with ridiculous ideas. Why not? You posted this. That's a clue- if you can't vouch for the source, then don't post it. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Good. Well deserved for her as well. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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| Ethics, antics, and ballistics  |
A well respected and experienced criminal profiler and psychologist commented this morning that based on the information currently available and the circumstances and venue involved, it is indicating that this scumbag's motivation was likely very similar to the shooter that attacked the congressmen. The investigation will obviously reveal more. He went into detail about how different motivations are more prominent than others based even on the age of the perpetrator and that an old(er) murderer is most frequently driven by a more specific issue or ideological perspective. It is virtually always a younger killer that is looking to make a name for themselves and just kill for the sake of killing. I happen to agree with his assessment in this case but only time will tell. -Dtech __________________________ "I've got a life to live, people to love, and a God to serve!" - sigmonkey "Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value." - Albert Einstein "A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition" ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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Seriously? Not credible at all. I mean, just read that article! "Blah blah... false flag attack... blah blah... New World Order" | |||
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Any gay frogs? 
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| I have lived the greatest adventure  |
Para has asked that we not post any "gun grabbers" type discussion in this topic. Phone's ringing, Dude. | |||
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| Told cops where to go for over 29 years… |
Not meaning to step on Para’s toes, but here is “clue” when trying to determine the veracity and validity of non-mainstream reports.... If the phrases “false flag attack” OR “New World Order” are included in the report it is questionable and should be disregarded until irrefutably authenticated. If the phrases “false flag operation” AND “New World Order” are BOTH used, it is utter horseshit and should be publicly mocked as well as mercilessly ridicule anyone who allows their name to be associated with the report. MKay? What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand??? | |||
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I couldn't get through to a couple people at work yesterday. Every damn conversation started with "what do you think about..." or "I bet." They didn't get the hint no matter how many times I said "No one knows shit at this time. I refuse to form opinions based on breaking news bullshit. Wait a few days for facts." | |||
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