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People have unsuccessfully attempted suicide with 12 gauge shotguns.




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was possibly the first suicide bombing in American history...

the country’s first domestic suicide bomber


Nope. He'd be about #7:

1959 Houston, TX. Guy blew himself up inside an elementary school.

1962 Continental Airlines flight over Iowa. Guy blew himself up while on a commercial flight.

1976 Mason County, WV. Guy forced his way inside the county jail/courthouse and blew himself up inside.

1998 Danville, IL. Serial bomber blew himself up after being confronted by law enforcement.

2005 University of Oklahoma. Guy blew himself up with a backpack bomb outside a football game.

2018 Austin, TX. Serial bomber blew himself up after confronted by law enforcement.


(Granted, 2 of those 6 were merely attempting to kill themselves to avoid capture, so aren't in the same category as those trying to take others with them, and the college football one could have been either accidental premature detonation or intentional suicide. But still, far from the first.)
First to my knowledge was Bath School massacre 1927. Despicable scumbag did 3 bombings in about 15 minutes - blew his house up, blew the school up 15 minutes after school started, and blew himself and school superintendent up.



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Can't believe I forgot that one.

So y'see, this schmuck is even further from "the first".
 
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...and a DE .50, possibly the suicide weapon.


Yeah, I can't imagine using one of these and calling it an 'attempted' suicide.

It looks to be the current model that was released recently.
He did legally buy it and the rifle on Monday.
 
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Strange dramatic suicide. I would expect some kind of manifesto.
 
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I'd really expect someone with an 18-series MOS to build a better bomb than random flammables in the back of an ugly electric truck.


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Dr. Grande already has his video up on this guy. Summarizes the guy wanted to kill his own family and himself, but his chosen "religion" wouldn't permit his family, so he killed strangers, or something along those lines.
 
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People have unsuccessfully attempted suicide with 12 gauge shotguns.

Successfully, too. A guy I know put the barrel in his mouth and pulled the trigger with his toe.



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I'd really expect someone with an 18-series MOS to build a better bomb than random flammables in the back of an ugly electric truck.



I’m thinking maybe the “poor” explosive design/vehicle choice may have been intentional. Suicidal, wanted to make an anti Trump/Musk statement, but wasn’t necessarily looking for a big body count of collateral damage.

Especially considering the decision to use fireworks. They are designed for flashy, colorful show without much destructive force. If he really wanted more damage, a bunch of Gerry cans of gas would have been easier and probably do more damage.






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It was reported today that the driver was dead before the detonation by what looks like a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.


I'll quickly admit that I don't know much at all about things like this.
At the same time, I'll question it: is there a method by which he could/would have shot himself after the explosion? That just doesn't seem to time out correctly to me. As in, I think the explosion would have taken him out, and he wouldn't have then had the opportunity to shoot himself. I could be wrong....
Confused




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Light fuse. Pull trigger. Die. Go straight to Hell





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Read one post where it was said to remember that Teslas are self driving
and it's possible that the "driver" was dead before the truck arrived.



I believe Teslas will not simply drive around a slumped body behind the wheel. It needs to see your eyes on the road and occasionally will ask for pressure to be applied to the steering wheel.

And unless the detonation was fairly soon after the gunshot, one would think a .50 AE Desert Eagle going off might be noticed. Those things are loooouuuud.


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It was reported today that the driver was dead before the detonation by what looks like a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.


I'll quickly admit that I don't know much at all about things like this.
At the same time, I'll question it: is there a method by which he could/would have shot himself after the explosion? That just doesn't seem to time out correctly to me. As in, I think the explosion would have taken him out, and he wouldn't have then had the opportunity to shoot himself. I could be wrong....
Confused

Well, I think that's the point. If there was a half-inch bullet hole through his noggin, it's almost certain that's what killed him, and not the blast (as some news agencies are still reporting).

However, anything's theoretically possible. He may have survived the gunshot long enough to experience the explosion. He may have set off the bomb, and survived that, but was enflamed and used the Deagle to terminate his suffering.



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BREAKING fbi NEWS release;

No connection between No-lins and Vegas.

Boy I feel better! Roll Eyes
 
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msm and their bs headline 'Cyber truck catches fire and explodes in front of Trump hotel.'

Just like their headline when President Trump got SHOT in the head - 'Trump falls to ground after loud noise.'

They can't help but lie.
Elon is not happy...



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...and a DE .50, possibly the suicide weapon.


Yeah, I can't imagine using one of these and calling it an 'attempted' suicide.

It looks to be the current model that was released recently.



https://www.foxnews.com/us/inv...xplosion-trump-hotel


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The coincidences are interesting. Perhaps there an imam or shaykh that incited the attackers independently. Some figure such as the deceased Anwar al-Alwaki or Omar Abdel Rahman. Some obscure SOB. A psychological study of suicide bombers proposed that guilt feelings about inadequate piety could be a motive. The 'martyr' attempts to atone by the violent action against the kufr.

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BREAKING fbi NEWS release;

No connection between No-lins and Vegas.

Boy I feel better! Roll Eyes

They concluded that beyond a shadow of a doubt based on 24 hours of investigation, huh? Top. Men.
 
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^^^

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