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It was a screen shot from the Shawn Ryan Show video that was just put up on Youtube- which KKina linked already.
It is your responsibility to provide links and context for the things you post. Not kkina, not anyone else.
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Theres alot of additional context to that email/manifesto.
I have no idea what you're talking about. WHAT "manifesto"?

Is this even verified as coming from whoever it's supposed to be coming from?

Conspiracy theorists are not going to take over this thread, and I mean it.


Sam Shoemate is the one on the Shawn Ryan Show- hes an (retired)Army Intel Officer who is well known in the SOC. The green beret who killed himself at Trump tower sent him and email and communicated with him directly on New Years eve but he brushed it off as kooky nonsense. Once the event happened Sam Shoemate turned over all info to the FBI and Army CID in terms of emails and communication with him. He reffered to his email as his “manifesto”, not me.

https://www.timesnownews.com/w...rticle-116926394/amp



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Apologies for not linking info. Doing this from my tiny little iphone trying to relay info as best I could. I understand why thats important.



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We're going to stay on the straight and narrow and that means sticking to the facts and leaving the conjecture to those who disregard the truth for whatever reason.
 
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The manifesto makes no sense. If it's legit, the guy must have been struggling with mental health issues. They were coming for him, but he wasn't sure if it was over war crimes or revolutionary propulsion systems.
 
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People are off to the races. They are going to find whatever bullshit allows them to form the narrative they wish to be the truth.

Twitter is eaten up with this idiotic bullshit right now.

There is no conspiracy. The NO terrorist acted alone. The LV nut case committed suicide. If he wrote any of this stuff he's supposed to have written, he was paranoid/delusional.

No drones, no shadowy government conspiracy, no one after anyone.

The truth is most often mundane, and the adult adolescents find it wanting and therefore seek to make spy novels or science fiction fantasies out of it.
 
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Lot of money to be made off speculation, innuendo, stories, lies, they have a vested interest in keeping it running, side by side, linking up anything they can. Plus we have so many news outlets, running 24/7, it's overload.


Remember the good old days when this shit was kept in the checkout lane of supermarkets, titles like "Man Marries Celestial Woman, has Moon Baby", Cher was in my Back Yard, etc etc...

Now it's mainstream and electronically shoved into our faces...

Yep, lunatic, lost his mind, distraught over divorce, marriage, infidelity, whatever.
 
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I saw a report that said that both the NOLA and the NV men served on the same base.

Good grief. Just how many tens of thousands of people were on that base? If it could be shown that they served in the same company or platoon at the same time in the same place, it could indicate collusion. But on the same base? That's as useful as saying they were both in New Mexico at the same time.

I generally don't believe in coincidences any more, but this appears to be one. They had different backgrounds, different motives, different targets, different methods, different... everything.


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I saw a report that said that both the NOLA and the NV men served on the same base.

Good grief. Just how many tens of thousands of people were on that base? If it could be shown that they served in the same company or platoon at the same time in the same place, it could indicate collusion. But on the same base? That's as useful as saying they were both in New Mexico at the same time.

I generally don't believe in coincidences any more, but this appears to be one. They had different backgrounds, different motives, different targets, different methods, different... everything.


Thats exactly what Sam Shoemate said- they were not connected in any way, total coincidence. Ft Bragg is huge, the Army is huge, and hundreds of thousands of troops deployed to afghanistan at once.
At least both Shoemate and Ryan believe the 2019 war crime incident could be credible, and warrants investigation by the incoming administration. I firmly believe the US has advanced technology regarding “gravitic propulsion”. Most people infer that comes from “aliens”. I think it was just a matter of time and research before us humans figured it out, same goes for the Chinese. Wouldnt surprise me in the least to learn that his claims are true regarding Chinese advancements in drone technology from stolen US research.



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WTF did I just read....
It ranges from mysterious propulsion technology across a number of sentences, to alleged 2019 war crimes in Afghanistan within a compressed paragraph. Yet this guy killed himself because of his knowledge.... Sorry, when people kill themselves, it's because they're suffering, in pain so much that the only way to stop it is to end their own lives. Their condition has become so miserable, so broken-hearted that the end is better than living. Based around this 'manifesto' sound like he went crazy, his domestic situation is the likely root of his pain, its an unfortunate reality of guys who've lived their lives one way and dealing with the realities of the world outside of the unformed services is a rough adjustment for many.
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I saw a report that said that both the NOLA and the NV men served on the same base.

Good grief. Just how many tens of thousands of people were on that base? If it could be shown that they served in the same company or platoon at the same time in the same place, it could indicate collusion. But on the same base? That's as useful as saying they were both in New Mexico at the same time.

This is a result when the vast majority of news services haven't a single-clue about the military, teh majority of employees never took teh oath or, even bothered to gain any knowledge about. Bragg/Liberty is one of the largest bases in the Army, 50,000 active duty solider in various units and many more rotating through the many schools there, then there's just as many reservists in the surrounding area that go back-forth when needed. It's one of the cross-roads of the Army yet, nobody in the MSM is thinking that chain-of-thought, that sentence is all but useless.
 
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Driver who exploded Cybertruck in Las Vegas railed about ‘political grievances’ and domestic issues before suicide

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The man who exploded a Tesla Cybertruck outside Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas wrote of “political grievances, issues about conflicts elsewhere” as well as “domestic issues” in the days leading up to his suicide, officials said Friday.

The writings were found in the cellphone of Matthew Alan Livelsberger, the truck’s driver, said Sheriff Dori Koren of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department in a news conference.

The Cybertruck was detonated outside a Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas Wednesday. Livelsberger, 37, of Colorado, died in the incident and seven others were injured. Authorities on Friday said his identity had been confirmed.

Spencer Evans, the special agent in charge of the FBI’s Las Vegas Division, said the incident appeared to be “a tragic case of suicide involving a heavily decorated combat veteran who was struggling with PTSD and other issues.”

Evans said the attack was “more public and more sensational than usual,” and investigators noted they were still pouring over “a lot of content” related to the case, including two cell phones.

Authorities said there was no connection between Livelsberger, the driver who died in the explosion, and the New Orleans attack.
 
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Sam Shoemate said and showed proof that Livelsburgers Signal safety number changed after his death. The only way that could happen is if you change your number/device- or a Govt agency hacked/accessed your account. Its well known that the Govt can pretty much get into anything “encrypted” on your phone.



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I'm going with psychotic episode, that LV dude lost his mind



 
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Extracted from one of the suspect's cellphones by the LV Metro Sheriff's Dept:


Cell Log by kpkina, on Flickr



The FBI believes at this point that the "manifesto" did come from the suspect, but it's not yet confirmed.



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Well, it is most unfortunate that his 4 copies of “Catcher in The Rye” burned up in the vehicle. Movie fans and conspiracy types will get the reference.

Dipstick in New Orleans was a straight up Islamic terrorist. The soldier in Vegas was a troubled soul and went off the deep end. There is so much crap information pouring out from all “sources” that you can pull information that fits any narrative you want…especially if you are selling something or it your favorite podcaster’s brand or news channel.


Wait and see. In the meantime, practice situational awareness and carry your EDC stuff.
 
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I'd never heard of "gravatic propulsion systems," before today. Is this real technology?

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The details surrounding Cybertruck bomber Matthew Livelsberger continue to drip - with two 'manifesto' letters found in the Cybertruck itself, and another 'manifesto' he allegedly emailed to retired intelligence officer Sam Shoemate.

In the letters found in the Cybertruck, Livelsberger described the USA as "terminally ill," and said his actions were meant as a "wake-up call," and not a terrorist attack.

The most intriguing, however, is an email allegedly sent to Shoemate - in warning that the "drones" seen around the United States over the last month are using "gravatic propulsion systems," which only China and the United States possess.

Shoemate shared the email on Shawn Ryan's show, writing on X, "I knew taking this public would insert me into the “glowy boi” conspiracy cycle, especially since I’m an intelligence officer," adding "I had no choice. Dude dumped it in my inbox. When I saw his name in the news, I had little choice but to hand it over to the feds. I knew the FBI wouldn’t release it, or at least without an agenda attached, so I took it to Shawn Ryan because he has the platform to handle the magnitude of this information and will do so as objectively as possible."

According to Livelsberger's email:

"China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they used the blloon for a sigint and isr, which are also part of the integrated comms system," he writes.

"...they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park over the WH if they wanted. It's checkmate."

You can read the entire email below:

"In case I do not make it to my decision point or on to the Mexico border I am sending this now. Please do not release this until 1JAN and keep my identity private until then.

First off I am not under duress or hostile influence or control. My first car was a 2006 Black Ford Mustang V6 for verification.

What we have been seeing with “drones” is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the east coast, but throughout history, the US. Only we and China have this capability. Our OPEN location for this activity in the box is below.

China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it is just a show of force and they are using it similar to how they used the balloon for sigint and isr, which are also part of the integrated comms system. There are dozens of those balloons in the air at any given time.

The so what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned AC, they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed. They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the WH if they wanted. It’s checkmate.

US needs to give the history of this, how we are employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them and what the way forward is. China is poised to attack anywhere in the east coast

I’ve been followed for over a week now from likely homeland or FBI, and they are looking to move on me and are unlikely going to let me cross into Mexico, but won’t because they know i am armed and I have a massive VBIED.

I’ve been trying to maintain a very visible profile and have kept my phone and they are definitely digitally tracking me. I have knowledge of this program and also war crimes that were covered up during airstrikes in Nimruz province Afghanistan in 2019 by the admin, DoD, DEA and CIA.

I conducted targeting for these strikes of over 125 buildings (65 were struck because of CIVCAS) that killed hundreds of civilians in a single day. USFORA continued strikes after spotting civilians on initial ISR, it was supposed to take 6 minutes and scramble all aircraft in CENTCOM. The UN basically called these war crimes, but the administration made them disappear.

I was part of that cover-up with USFORA and Agent [redacted] of the DEA. So I don’t know if my abduction attempt is related to either. I worked with GEN Millers 10 staff on this as well as the response to Bala Murghab. AOB-S Commander at the time [redacted] can validate this.

You need to elevate this to the media so we avoid a world war because this is a mutually assured destruction situation. For vetting my Linkedin is Matt Berg or Matthew Livelsberger, an active duty 18Z out of 1-10 my profile is public. I have an active TSSCI with UAP USAP access."

How glowing is all of this on a scale of 1-Chernobyl?

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https://x.com/ShawnRyan762/sta...2120000%2Fframe.html



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Anybody questioning the ID of the body, how the credit cards and other IDs survived, how they are recovering phone info, etc. should watch the press conference kkina posted above.

Bottom line, it’s him from DNA and dental records.

It’s the second press conference I’ve watched from the Las Vegas LEOs and they seem to be straightforward, methodical, serious, and trustworthy. Watch it and you can draw your own conclusions about the FBI guy and ATF guy.
 
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Any mention yet on where he bought the fireworks and the guns? No fireworks allowed in Colorado, as far as I remember.
 
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