[QUOTE]Originally posted by BansheeOne: [QUOTE]'There have been suggestions that he made that up because otherwise he'd have to leave Germany....'


Let's not forget that the koran states that it is 'permissable' to lie to safeguard the jihad or efforts to spread it.

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

Elon Musk confirmed that the truck bed was full of explosives....

The evidence of our own eyes has shown that just about EVERY EV is a ticking bomb.

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
At least the cops greased the asshole. NYE in NOLA is heavily policed, and I am surprised the guy did not pick a softer target.
And I am doubly glad my son put NOLA in his rear view mirror! He might have been there!

The Quarter is ALWAYS heavily policed. But if you are willing to die, that doesn't matter.

Since this guy just drove around the parked police car, I guess we have to ask, these bollards, are they in the street only or also on the sidewalk??

Seems like if they aren't on the sidewalk where the people are, then they aren't as effective as first thought.

Less than 2-weeks since the German Christmas Market Attack and not taking proper measures to prevent another is negligent to say the least.

first, Prayers for the victims, and their families. Of course this is still an ongoing investigation and I am certain we will not know all of the important facts because it will show how inept certain agency's, and policies are. There were no bollards on the sidewalks, nothing of substance on the sidewalks to stop a vehicle ( why not even 50gallon drums that could be emptied and removed afterward?)
I have a question that someone may possibly answer. As I watched the news footage and saw the area around the Super Dome being swept with bomb sniffing dogs it made me wonder how high off the ground can those dogs get the scent of explosive material? If these slime balls had 1/2 a brain wouldn't it be more effective if they placed IEDs in an elevated position to avoid detection as well as cause more devastation from above. Again I am no expert by any means but I am a firm believer that we need to look at things in 3 dimensions not just on ground level.
God Bless and take care of all of our first responders, and GOD Bless America

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Originally posted by Timdogg6:
Since this guy just drove around the parked police car, I guess we have to ask, these bollards, are they in the street only or also on the sidewalk??

Seems like if they aren't on the sidewalk where the people are, then they aren't as effective as first thought.

Am I wrong in thinking we can't bollard our way to safety?

I mean, we can't have a set of bollards everywhere there is a crowd.

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Originally posted by Timdogg6:
Since this guy just drove around the parked police car, I guess we have to ask, these bollards, are they in the street only or also on the sidewalk??

Seems like if they aren't on the sidewalk where the people are, then they aren't as effective as first thought.

I'm not sure if they had any on the sidewalk , but I read that some of the bollards had been removed and were being repaired / replaced . New Orleans Police are some of the best when it comes to controlling people and traffic . Mardi Gras and multiple Super Bowls have given them plenty of experience . Securing the sidewalks from random terrorists is something that hasn't been at the top of their priority list I guess . Until now ..

In the links to NOLA Public Works posted earlier, it looks like the bollards are in the crosswalks and don’t leave room for vehicles to go around them.

The guy made it three blocks before being stopped by the cherry picker in the middle of the road. I’m sure it was positioned there for a reason, but imagine if it had been two blocks closer to the main road.

Now let’s imagine the new bollards were in place and functional. They could have prevented him from turning onto street he turned onto, but what prevents him from mowing down all the people on the sidewalk for the street he started from?

Or as radioman put it:

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Originally posted by radioman:
Am I wrong in thinking we can't bollard our way to safety?

I mean, we can't have a set of bollards everywhere there is a crowd.

The news coverage of this event is out of proportion to its significance. CNN even has up a chyron that says "Breaking News". Same thing on MSNBC. Fox as well, and I'm certain if I looked at other channels, the same would be true.

Ridiculous. This isn't breaking news. This event happened some 32 hours ago and has been covered non-stop since. It's impossible to take these people seriously. They don't care about the victims, not one bit. These corporate news media companies are voracious and insatiable for lurid content.

In behaving in this manner, they diminish events such as this, wearing out the public.

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Originally posted by selogic:

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Originally posted by Timdogg6:
Since this guy just drove around the parked police car, I guess we have to ask, these bollards, are they in the street only or also on the sidewalk??

Seems like if they aren't on the sidewalk where the people are, then they aren't as effective as first thought.

I'm not sure if they had any on the sidewalk , but I read that some of the bollards had been removed and were being repaired / replaced . New Orleans Police are some of the best when it comes to controlling people and traffic . Mardi Gras and multiple Super Bowls have given them plenty of experience . Securing the sidewalks from random terrorists is something that hasn't been at the top of their priority list I guess . Until now ..

There are no bollards on the side walks, they are too narrow and would most likely not adhere to ADA standards

The first block of bourbon typically doesn’t have any deterrent aspects except a parked vehicle because there are hotels on the corner of Iberville which needs to be accessed. This section is also wider than the rest of the blocks.

Why were they getting repaired? The existing ones were found to be unreliable and the city negotiated with the NFL to include the updating in the budget the NFL is paying New Orleans, so that’s why completion by Super Bowl was the date. You just can’t dig a ditch on Bourbon, that got figured out when the street got resurfaced a number of years ago. There are infrastructure aspects gas, electric, water which over decades and centuries have been moved, repaired, not even documented

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Originally posted by FrankMoses:
Or is he fudging the numbers?

There are online lists, such as on Wikipedia, and according to that article he’s probably correct.

And even to suggest that such attacks aren’t anything to be concerned about in this country is probably correct as well. COVID-19 is estimated to have killed well over a million Americans and caused serious health issues for many more and yet how many people worry about getting it themselves—especially members of a forum like this?

Despite the hysterical rants that law enforcement (or others who are responsible for security at public events) are incompetent and should have prevented the New Orleans attack, if the number of ramming incidents in this country were the basis for the efforts and expenditures of preventing them, no one would do anything at all—no barricades, no police except to pick up the drunks from the street.

Nevertheless, even though only a tiny number of such attacks have occurred here, fact is that sometimes protective measures have been commonly employed for years, such as at a small event in my tiny mountain town once a year that attracts some opposition by locals who are inconvenienced by the activity.

Why aren’t there or haven’t there been more vehicle attacks? Again, despite the rants of the ignorant, the fact that protective measures are often employed against many different types of threats does help prevent them. People whine about the TSA and its procedures, but when was the last time an American commercial aircraft was hijacked and flown into a public building here? Sometimes police and other security authorities do pay attention to what happens elsewhere in the world and act accordingly. When even minimal barriers are in place and there is a heavy law enforcement presence at an event, does that cause many people with more than room temperature IQs to think, “Yeah, maybe something else”?

And what else? There are two reasons why guns are so often the method of mass murder choice in the US: The obvious one is availability, but the other is because that’s the weapon that’s expected to be used here. Does anyone who knows about such incidents in this country have any doubt that the man in the 1966 Texas tower incident would have had an AR if they had been as available, popular, and as commonly used in mass shootings* as they are today? Although the New Orleans incident may change things, previous vehicle attacks have been largely ignored by the popular BS media, but what if a student kills two people at a school? Will that make the news? Not long, perhaps, but it’s sure to show up.

Vehicle ramming attacks in other countries get even less attention here. When I mentioned the latest incident in Germany to an intelligent former LE friend, she hadn’t even heard of it. Why are knives and vehicles commonly used in mass murder events in China? Why not guns? The answer is of course obvious: knives and vehicles are available; guns aren’t.

The term “copycat” incidents is often derided in the media, probably because media coverage of such crimes is the primary driver of their recurrence, but only the most obtuse would argue that it’s not a common phenomenon. I don’t know what will happen in the future. For many events effective vehicle ramming attacks would be easy to prevent with minimal protective measures, but not all. Only time will tell.

* Handguns are still more commonly used in incidents such as school shootings.

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Originally posted by FrankMoses:
In a brief 1:40 clip, Peter Zeihan is downplaying the aspect of this being the start of something, saying that there’s only been three vehicle terror attacks in North America since the ISIS call for jihad 15-20 years ago. I thought there were more, or am I thinking of Europe, where this happens way more often?
Or is he fudging the numbers?

ISIS didn’t exist 15-20 years ago so yes, he’s fudging the numbers. Zeihan isn’t smart on terrorist cells and shouldn’t pretend to be.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
The news coverage of this event is out of proportion to its significance.

I normally have Fox News or Fox Business on my TV whenever I'm home, for background if I'm not actually watching it. We got so tired of it that we watched NCIS re-runs instead.

Didn't anything else happen yesterday???

I don't see this posted here

Looks like the suicide of a Trump-hating Democrat, if you ask me.

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His wife, believed to be Sara Livelsberger, wrote on Facebook in May 2016 that she was a registered Democrat. She posted a picture of a graphic commissioned by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee appearing to show Donald Trump which read “stop bigotry”.

She captioned the post: “Perks of being a registered Democrat… I can’t wait to slap this baby on my truck.”

Who was Matthew Livelsberger, the US Army veteran named as a suspect in the Cybertruck explosion?

The man who killed himself by blowing up himself up while inside of a Teslas Cybertruck outside of Donald Trump’s hotel in Las Vegas hours after Shamsud-Din Jabbar rammed a truck into New Year’s Day revellers in New Orleans killing at least 15 people, has been identified as a Green Beret.

In the early hours of Thursday morning, media outlets in Colorado named Matthew Livelsberger as the man who detonated the vehicle Donald Trump’s at 8.40 a.m. on Wednesday. Police are investigating whether it was a terrorist attack.

Livelsberger, 37, of Colorado Springs, died in the blast, with seven others sustaining minor injuries, police said.

The two New Year’s Day attackers were both Army veterans and, according to a report from Denver 7, allegedly served at the same military base, Fort Bragg, and even served in Afghanistan around the same period.

In addition, Livelsberger and Jabbar rented their vehicles via the carsharing company, Turo, officials have said. Officials have said that there is currently no formal connection between Jabbar and Livelsberger.

Authorities are investigating a possible link between the two men. At the time they were fighting in the Middle East, the US had around 100,000 military personnel in Afghanistan as part of President Barack Obama’s ‘troop surge.’

According to CBS, law enforcement sources said that Livelsberger was on active duty with the Army serving in Germany and was on leave in Colorado at the time of the incident. His wife hadn’t heard from him in several days prior to the incident, the source said.

Livelsberger spent 18 of his 19-year Army career with the Special Forces, according to his Linkedin profile. He is believed to have joined the Green Berets as a commmunicaton’s specialist in January 2006, before becoming a operations manager and team sergeant in February 2023.

The profile picture on the account shows a man sporting winter gear armed with an assault rifle, standing atop of a snowmobile in mountainous terrain.

His most recent role, from November 2024, was listed as a Remote and Autonomous Systems Manager for the Army.

Livelsberger earned a summa cum laude – an award given to the students earning the highest grades in their class – after graduating from Norwich University in Vermont with a degree in Strategic Studies and Defense Analysis, according to his LinkedIn profile.

It also states he earned the Department of State Meritorious Honor Award for “interagency contributions that resulted in increased interoperability and efficiency while serving as the Operations Sergeant at Special Operations Command Forward”.

Livelsberger often commented on posts from military personnel. In a comment on one viral post from an Air Force veteran, he responded to a question noting that “the govt” was responsible for making people believe they were responsible for others’ student debt.

Erasing student debts was a signature Biden-era policy.

At the age of 22, Livelsberger began collecting clothes, toys and educational items for children and disseminating off humanitarian aid while serving a tour in Afghanistan, he told the News Journal in his native Ohio.

Appealing to US citizens for donations in Janaury, 2010, he told the outlet: “Handing out humanitarian assistance continues to be one of the few approaches of gaining the credibility and loyalty of the people of Afghanistan and I believe you are directly contributing to our success at ground level.”

His wife, believed to be Sara Livelsberger, wrote on Facebook in May 2016 that she was a registered Democrat. She posted a picture of a graphic commissioned by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee appearing to show Donald Trump which read “stop bigotry”.

She captioned the post: “Perks of being a registered Democrat… I can’t wait to slap this baby on my truck.”

Sara Livelsberger shared photographs of the two together, the last was posted in 2016. Sara had another Facebook profile page but it was removed shortly after news of the Cybertruck explosion emerged.

In one image from April 2016, the pair posed for a selfie, with Livelsberger sporting a camo backpack.

In another from July 2015, Livelsberger can be seen with a tattoo of a bald eagle and the American flag on his shoulder, as he posed with a dog.

A Facebook account that appears to belong to Livelsberger shows a heavily-tattooed man holding a baby, with its profile picture updated in September 2024.

Details on the Sara Livelsberger Facebook page and information released about Livelsberger’s age match reports from officials. One post from 2015 reads: “It is my old a** husbands’s 28th birthday!”

Sources told Denver 7 that multiple addresses had been associated with Livelsberger in the area around Colorado Springs. The FBI were investigating these properties.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives have been brought in to assist, according to reports.

Authorities continue to investigate the explosion as a possible act of terror, an official with Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department told ABC News, but a potential motive is not yet known.

“At this time, we are investigating a number of leads, and I’m not prepared to release any of that information to you just yet,” Las Vegas County Sheriff Kevin McMahill said in a news conference on Wednesday evening. “I can tell you that there are seven victims right now that sustained injuries from the explosion.”

The fire has since been extinguished by the Clark County fire department.

Video posted on social media showed different angles of the explosion, which appeared to include fireworks.

Firework mortars and camp fuel canisters were found inside the truck, sources told Denver 7.

McMahill highlighted the link between Trump and Elon Musk, the Tesla founder and the president-elect’s incoming head of the unofficial Department of Government Efficiency, tasked with cutting trillions from government spending.

“Obviously a Cybertruck, the Trump hotel, there are lots of questions we have to answer,” McMahill said, underscoring the close relationship between the president-elect and Tesla founder Elon Musk

Musk took the opportunity to praise Tesla’s Cybertruck for being so sturdy that he said it helped contain the blast.

“The evil knuckleheads picked the wrong vehicle for a terrorist attack. Cybertruck actually contained the explosion and directed the blast upwards,” he wrote in a post on X.

WTOP.com: FBI now says driver responsible for deadly New Orleans rampage acted alone

I can no longer take at face value anything the FBI says.

FBI: Not Terror

ALSO FBI: Terror, and he had help. 3 men 1 woman.

MORE FBI: Acted alone.

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Livelsberger spent 18 of his 19-year Army career with the Special Forces

Well, didn't make 20. Blew himself up. Suicide. Not in line of duty. No retirement pay or any benefits for the widow. Boo-hoo.

I suspect he’s divorced.

A Green Beret on active duty and on authorized leave at the time of the explosion. Not the typical profile of a terrorist.