I’ve never heard of someone convicted and jailed getting to spend their time waiting for appeal outside of jail. I don’t think the reasoning behind this is at all reasonable. Does every hood rat guilt of the same level of criminal activity get to wait out the appeal process on the street? Just the beautiful people with connections.

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Originally posted by AzMikeCFD102:
Michelle Obama's connection -

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/...ate-obama-years-ago/

Link is from three years ago.

I don't think the Obamas give a single shit about Smollett today. When you have Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle humiliating him, roasting his ass, and black America is not buying the bullshit, Barry is staying far away from the whole debacle, especially after a well publicized trial and sentencing. Commies don't hang on to their pet stooges for very long.

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I’ve never heard of someone convicted and jailed getting to spend their time waiting for appeal outside of jail. I don’t think the reasoning behind this is at all reasonable. Does every hood rat guilt of the same level of criminal activity get to wait out the appeal process on the street? Just the beautiful people with connections.

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More common than you would think. He has high dollar attorneys and despite their poor performance{in my opinion} someone in the Gerragos law firm presented a convincing case. Elizabeth Holmes who was found guilty is still out on bail untii sentencing in September. She is facing potential decades in prison.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
I’ve never heard of someone convicted and jailed getting to spend their time waiting for appeal outside of jail. I don’t think the reasoning behind this is at all reasonable. Does every hood rat guilt of the same level of criminal activity get to wait out the appeal process on the street? Just the beautiful people with connections.

Here's the thing:

1) It's a nonviolent offense.
2) The sentence is relatively short.
3) The defendant has the means to hire high end attorneys and post bond.

Convictions like this don't make the news for the most part. Criminal appeals don't make the news for the most part. When they do, it's after they are decided. He's being sentenced to county jail.

The time it takes to get the appeal argued and decided will be longer than the sentence. If he is held in custody for his entire sentence and then that sentence is somehow overturned, what is the point of an appeals process?

Folks need to take a deep breath on this.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
I’ve never heard of someone convicted and jailed getting to spend their time waiting for appeal outside of jail. I don’t think the reasoning behind this is at all reasonable. Does every hood rat guilt of the same level of criminal activity get to wait out the appeal process on the street? Just the beautiful people with connections.

Happens all the time, when filing for appeal, those with money or assets to put up the bond and/or have a low chance of flight will be bonded out.

No sense having him in a jail serving time for something that could be overturned at the appellate court level.

Say you keep him in jail, If it is overturned then he would have served time for something he's not found guilty of, and, probably sue Chicago.

Strap a bracelet on the ankle, have him put up some green, with any luck he'll go on TV and radio to make money and incriminate himself further.

Upon his failed appeal I see him fleeing the country. Maybe back to France, since he is French and all. That pussy will not be able to handle the jail time.

I hope on appeal the judge increases the length of his sentence for further wasting taxpayer's money and the state's time and resources.

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Originally posted by DaBigBR:
Folks need to take a deep breath on this.

I don't understand the need to give us what some might consider a hard dose of reality. I've seen this kind of thing many times over the years of this forum, and, you know what? These dire predictions, realistic as they may seem, are sometimes wrong. So, my question is: How about we wait and see what happens. and in the interim, we resist the urge to bring everyone down?

I don't see anyone in this conversation who is losing their head, so no one needs to take a deep breath. If this asshole skates, he skates. There's no need to rush to that.

I never knew there was bail for your punishment.

During the sentencing when the judge was discussing some shortcomings he talked about how Smollett has become a laughingstock and the punchline to jokes.

This was demonstrated today when I was on the phone with my 85yo mother who, in passing conversation, referred to him as Juicy.

Yup, thats a whole different level of screwing up when 85 year old ladies are making fun of you.

Jail time or no jail time is pretty insignificant when you have become such a well known douche that 85yo ladies are making fun of you. Jail time will come and go but ridicule will follow him forever. One day he is going to be a question in trivial pursuit.

He's going to spend a ton on legal fees for this appeal. And his looney outburst has likely driven the final nail into the coffin that holds his career. After this he'll be a washed up actor who is nothing more than the butt of jokes.

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3) The defendant has the means to hire high end attorneys and post bond.

His net worth is listed at 1.5 million. A bit more than I have, but That's not considered hyper-rich these days. The liquid portion of that would be eaten up pretty quickly with high end attorneys, although I suppose his little circle of friends would chip in. Maybe Opra, Whoppi and that crowd.

Everybody knows the man is a total fraud. Unless they are mentally impaired, even everybody in his family knows it, despite what they say.

When I saw Dave Chappelle's hilarious send up of Juicy Smolley, I knew that his career is over. Whether he goes to the slammer or not, the worst thing that could possibly happen to him-- the destruction of what he lives for, his career-- is guaranteed. Nobody wants to be associated with a laughing stock, and watch Chappelle's bit on YouTube if you have any doubts that the man has become a walking parody of himself.

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3) The defendant has the means to hire high end attorneys and post bond.

His net worth is listed at 1.5 million. A bit more than I have, but That's not considered hyper-rich these days. The liquid portion of that would be eaten up pretty quickly with high end attorneys, although I suppose his little circle of friends would chip in. Maybe Opra, Whoppi and that crowd.

That net worth is chump change to celebs on the best of days, and those are in Juicy’s rear view mirror. Hell, I’d wager that there are several here on SF that have that kind of financial security.

It will be interesting to see who ponies up cash for the fraud instead of running their gums about how great he is. I’m guessing his monetary support will not be as good as he expects.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
That net worth is chump change to celebs on the best of days, and those are in Juicy’s rear view mirror. Hell, I’d wager that there are several here on SF that have that kind of financial security.

It will be interesting to see who ponies up cash for the fraud instead of running their gums about how great he is. I’m guessing his monetary support will not be as good as he expects.

The book and tv rights are worth quite a bit more, if he gets exonerated, plenty of attorneys take on high visibility cases for the rights to tell the story or a piece of the action.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
That net worth is chump change to celebs on the best of days, and those are in Juicy’s rear view mirror. Hell, I’d wager that there are several here on SF that have that kind of financial security.

I guarantee you're right. That's not that much money these days.

I doubt that net worth figure is correct.

Wasn't he making about $500k on the tv show? That's nothing to sneeze at, but he wasn't at it long enough to have banked a ton of it. I'd bet the lawyers will burn through his reserves pretty quickly. And even if they did it all pro bono, Jussie is not going to make that kind of money again for a very long time. When's the last time he got a paycheck? How long can he go without another one?

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Originally posted by XinTX:
He's going to spend a ton on legal fees for this appeal.

I remember reading a long time ago in a business magazine what OJ spent on his legal defense for his criminal case, almost 1 1/2 years from white Bronco chase to acquittal. The article stated close to 10 million dollars, and that was in the 1990s. Smollett did not have his version of the OJ dream team, but he did have top dollar representation from a celebrity law firm, and his his case started three years ago. I imagine he accrued billable hours for most of the days in those years, and he is still racking up those hours today.

And he was not a highly paid TV actor either, basically a 2nd tier support player on his show. When the top star was paid less than 200 grand per episode, you know Smollett was not getting nearly that amount. And with a dirtbag posse family like his, like the majority of instant stars and pro athletes, I'm sure he pissed most of his money away.

The best justice that can come out of this is for Juicy to spend the rest of his life in broke obscurity.