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Sigforum K9 handler |
Yep. Indeed. | |||
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Still finding my way |
Your user name must be ironic then. | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
Maybe he's a PINO? Q | |||
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| Still finding my way |
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While reading this thread I can't help but think of other times the government has severely trampled on constitutional rights (my opinion) and the actions were upheld by the courts. Abraham Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus allowing people to be imprisoned without recourse. President Roosevelt issued executive order 6102 requiring all Americans to turn in their gold coins and certificates to the U.S. government. This was upheld by the Supreme Court. FDR’s Executive Order 9066 led to the internment of 120,000 Japanese Americans. Abruptly forced to abandon or sell their homes and businesses, many lost everything they owned. Wickard v. Filburn An Ohio farmer, Roscoe Filburn, was growing wheat to feed animals on his own farm. The US government had established limits on wheat production, based on the acreage owned by a farmer, to stabilize wheat prices and supplies. Filburn grew more than was permitted and so was ordered to pay a penalty. In response, he said that because his wheat was not sold, it could not be regulated as commerce, let alone "interstate" commerce (described in the Constitution as "Commerce... among the several states"). The Supreme Court disagreed: _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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You’re the one that mentioned violence. Looks to me like everyone else is talking about protesting. Then again, with your posts in the Chinese Virus thread, it’s easy to see your propensity to jump to conclusions. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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That sums up my attitude as well. If someone is in a high risk group or scared to death like so many, then they need to stay home but a few seem to expect the rest of us to put our lives on hold just to protect them no matter how long it takes or how our rights are trampled on for them. Given the past history it will take a long time (likely years) to come up with a vaccine and even then indications are that this will be with us from now on and occur every year like the flu. My 91 year old mother lived through the great depression and WW 2 and she thinks all this is over bearing and ridiculous as well. Protests and demonstrations are a start but we also need to get out on election day and get rid of a bunch of these little dictators. If not, we are in for more of the same now that they have seen how easily many people just knuckle under to them. I hope it never occurs but I'm afraid that eventually it will take another revolutionary/civil war in the future because the leftists will keep taking more and more as long as people let them. | |||
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| Run Silent Run Deep  |
Nah, just a guy who sees you all talking about “taking your lives back” as truly humorous. You go ahead and gather your 1000 people...good luck with that. That’ll show em! Yup...that will get your life back...driving in a line with 999 other expletive honking and threatening with some scary signs. They’ll listen for sure and open it all up the next day! _____________________________ Pledge allegiance or pack your bag! The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher Spread my work ethic, not my wealth | |||
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| No double standards |
I tend to agree with bigdeal. Many in gov't will realize how easy it is to amplify a crisis for personal gain. People will be numbed to the reality of what they are losing. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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At this point, protests are pretty much the only option, along with flooding them with calls and emails to let them know they are accountable to us...not the other way around. Otherwise, they just sit back and conclude that no one will challenge them and be even bolder next time. Next step is to follow through on election day. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
OK... so what's the Patriot plan? "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| No double standards |
chellim1, Just a thought, you might consider adding NY, CA, to your signature line  "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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| Still finding my way |
Better than hidi g behind my keyboard. Why don't you post what YOU are doing? Sitti g on your couch? | |||
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| Made from a different mold  |
open with a limit of 10 people isn't the same as being OPEN. Standing in line for hours on end to purchase a gun, but can walk in to a clinic and abort a baby in 15 minutes....The gold standard for Virginia governors  ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Killing babies is absolutely fine and essential to the democrats but we can't have these selfish people working or anything like that can we?  | |||
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| Made from a different mold |
I wouldn't give my rights up if eleventybillion people died because of this Chinese bumblefuck. Your mortality has nothing to do with my rights, or those rights of others to live their lives. If you're so afraid, dig a hole, crawl into it, seal it up and come out ONLY when there are no viruses trying to kill you....Hell, you might make it another 10-40 years depending on your supplies, but you'll still be dead, in your little hidey-hole. Killing an entire countries economy to "maybe" save a few thousand people is just killing everyone else slowly. ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Let's not forget that civil disobedience is also a viable option. Hell, the Left uses it continually for everything they disagree with in this country, and with few exceptions, suffer no real punishment for it. Just remember, politicians can pass anything they want. But when "We the people..." as a group stop adhering to or complying with these laws, they mean absolutely nothing. If enough people acted to nullify a law, there is nothing the government could do about it. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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So far, I have not "taken back" my life since I have not done anything the powers that be have dictated. I dont run away screaming if someone gets closer than 6 feet from me. If I want to go somewhere, I go. I dont mask up or bathe in hand sanitizer before or after I am out and about. I take the same actions to keep myself healthy as I had before this madness. I havent hoarded ass wipe or anything else. The only limits imposed on me are the closing of places I want to visit. And I have a long memory about those who pushed this on us and I will vote accordingly. Do I think my actions are resistance or protest? Nope. Just acting with common sense. Something that seems to be in short supply this spring. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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I participated in an opening up protest in WI today. I plan to do every one if off work & not to far away. I’m fairly well versed in the numbers & statistics, follow a fair bit. Today I bought two modest flags & made one homemade sign. Our Gov will not even sit down with opposition or the head of WI manufacturing asso. Not saying he has to cave on anything, no sharing of date or reasoning is troubling. With WI being a 2020 swing State, I don’t think it is coincidence, sorry. As a reminder, the shutdown was to avoid overflows at hospitals, not to hold off until the virus ceased being a threat. | |||
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The Joy Maker |
Googling how to make bootleather taste better, I reckon. 
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