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Posts: 17644 | Location: Stuck at home | Registered: January 02, 2015Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Dear Mayor Lightfoot:

You could have national background checks on everyone who purchases a firearm. It wouldn't cut back on your Chicago crime one iota.

Hint: Criminals don't follow the laws. Unless and until you focus on the person who pulls the trigger, you will never solve your violence problem.


And a (sarcastic) thought for jljones, post below this one. Maybe the Founders got it wrong in the Bill of Rights. If the Second Amendment protected the right to drugs rather than firearms, would that solve Chicago's crime and violence problem? But really, you make a good point.




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“Sixty percent of the illegal guns that come into Chicago every year are from out of state, from Indiana, from Mississippi, from other states that have lax gun laws,” Lightfoot said.
Reeves responded Wednesday on Twitter to an article published by Y’all Politics.



She’s absolutely correct. I’d say that the trace data probably shows it to be a higher number than that.

But,

What she isn’t saying is that those guns are STOLEN in the source states. Then transported to Chicago, Nashville and Memphis. Where they are traded for bulk drugs. Those drugs are then taken back to the source states and sold in those communities. A Glock 19 goes for about $2300 worth of meth in Chicago right now at a distributor level.

Those that aren’t stolen are straw purchases by local gang members and taken to Chicago and traded for drugs.

If it wasn’t for Chicago’s rampant drug problem, they wouldn’t have a gun problem.

Oh, another hint.....those that are doing straw purchases now....will pass “universal” back ground checks and the same guns will go to Chicago.




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In an interview earlier this month with MSNBC, Lightfoot said the guns were crossing the border into Chicago from Indiana, Wisconsin and Michigan.

Uh huh.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but...

A resident of Illinois cannot legally buy a handgun in another state without it being transferred via an FFL in IL.

A resident of Illinois can legally buy a long gun in another state from an FFL, providing the sale is consistent with the laws both in that other state and in IL.

A resident of Illinois cannot legally directly buy any firearm from a private seller in any other state.

Assuming I'm correct on all three counts: She's full of beans.



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Governor pushes back after Chicago mayor lays blame on Mississippi....

Annual murders per 100,000 in the state of Mississippi- 12.7

Annual murders per 100,000 in:
South Chicago- 32.0
Chatham- 31.9
Avalon Park- 40.9
South Shore- 50.9

There's more, but we get the idea.

Mayor Lightweight, it isn't the guns.



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I've said it before, and I'll say it again-

LIGHTFOOOT IS A FUCKING IDIOT.

That twat is totally clueless and way over her "bald ass" head. Anything to fit the narrative, I guess. I'm surprised she hasn't came out and blamed President Trump for the guns.
At least she was able to place the blame for the recent looting on President Trump because of his COVID Response... I can't find the link for that conference. I'm at the point where I can't be armed around a tv or radio when that twat is on, I'll shoot the tv.

https://youtu.be/c5D5cyS0Xzg

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...-recovered-illinois/

"The ATF numbers show 5,337 guns recovered in Illinois were traced and sourced as coming from Illinois.
Fourteen other states accounted for a total of 4,375 guns recovered in Illinois and traced to their source. Those states were Indiana, Missouri, Wisconsin, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Iowa, Alabama, Florida, Arkansas, and Michigan."...

She is still unwilling or unable to take ANY of the blame for the looting my City because of her inept leadership and pandering to the blm/sjw crowd.


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I have no idea what the hell is going on with the local "leadership" in some of these cities. The long-term effects of these riots are going to be crippling.

There's a few stores here in Chicago that are unable to re-open, others that are unwilling to re-open. Anything from the "Mom and Pop" shops to Macy's which occupies EIGHT floors in Water Tower Place.
That's a lot of revenue lost!

One estimate of the damage from last weeks shitshow was low balled at $60 Million, I'd honestly put it over $100 million. That's one night worth of looting. This is hitting a city that's already $700 million in the hole.

Someone is going to have to foot this bill.


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RE that longer video. How do people stay in places like that with roaming hordes of thugs? Was that two little girls that rode their bikes through the bedlam?



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The end result of identity politics and progressive policies is that you get people in power who are both unable and unwilling to do the job.

Hanlon's Razor - "Never attribute to malfeasance that which is easily explained by incompetence." In Lighfoot's case, she's both so its a toss up as to is she screwing up because she is a progressive asshole or is she just incompetent.

In the end reasons dont matter and cities like Chicago, Portland, Seattle, NYC are toast unless they elect some adults to run them.

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I have no idea what the hell is going on with the local "leadership" in some of these cities. The long-term effects of these riots are going to be crippling.


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Retired NYPD sergeant attacked in Garment District beatdown caught on video

https://nypost.com/2020/08/19/...t-district-beatdown/


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I emailed you a link to a video by Millie Weaver, who has been arrested. The video was released after her arrest. The video is Called “Shaddow Gate”. You tube has pulled it but I found it else where. I watched it all and it’s revealing. FYI It’s an hour and 22 minutes long. Great lengths to try to block this video from being seen.


The funny thing is that utube has pulled it for hate speech. An exposé of corruption in the gov't and by certain "private" organizations.

The amount of corruption is amazing to me now that my eyes are truly wide open.


Yeah that was funny to see that, but you can still find it at Brighton.com well worth the 1hr and 22 minutes.


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Good thing these assholes are documenting their tactics to review and prepare for.

They seem to thrive on documenting every detail in their bragging.

There's enough gleaned information, a small neighborhood can easily repel a large horde of them if they were organized and prepared with countermeasures.

Everything you need to know is contained in these videos.


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“Sixty percent of the illegal guns that come into Chicago every year are from out of state, from Indiana, from Mississippi, from other states that have lax gun laws,” Lightfoot said.
Reeves responded Wednesday on Twitter to an article published by Y’all Politics.



She’s absolutely correct. I’d say that the trace data probably shows it to be a higher number than that.

But,

What she isn’t saying is that those guns are STOLEN in the source states. Then transported to Chicago, Nashville and Memphis. Where they are traded for bulk drugs. Those drugs are then taken back to the source states and sold in those communities. A Glock 19 goes for about $2300 worth of meth in Chicago right now at a distributor level.

Those that aren’t stolen are straw purchases by local gang members and taken to Chicago and traded for drugs.

If it wasn’t for Chicago’s rampant drug problem, they wouldn’t have a gun problem.

Oh, another hint.....those that are doing straw purchases now....will pass “universal” back ground checks and the same guns will go to Chicago.


This has been the case in Indy where throughout this year (and last) there were a spate of break ins at LGS. Seemed like every week I was there they had a different break in....pretty sure all those guns weren't heading to Gary, unless that is just the staging area before Chi-Stan
 
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I never thought I'd see the day that I'd be so pissed at all this crap that I've actually had to isolate myself from news media and close myself off to people that are even remotely liberal. My blood pressure often goes up that I can feel my heart pounding in my chest as I listen to radio calls of officers calling for help and I can't do a damn thing. When we actually have these Antifa/BLM assholes in front of me, I have to use all of my strength to not go ape-shit and beat the ever-loving crap out of them. I'm tired of having all sorts of shit thrown at me and my fellow teammates, we are often pelted with rocks, bricks, frozen water bottles and anything else they can find. Sooner or later a decision has to be made, all out war or complete surrender. I'm sick of the lack of leadership and the incompetence of most of these supervisors, most promoted beyond their capabilities. Chicago is the new Detroit, The Mogadishu Mag Mile or whatever name you want to give it, but this city is on the brink of total collapse and little Nero has fiddled long enough.


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What I really want to know is what will be the police's response to the friendlies defending their neighborhoods.

Will they stand by and let the community handle the trash, or follow orders to go in and charge the defenders of their own property as they have done to the McCloskeys?

We, the friendlies are on your side. We support you.


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That would probably depend on political pressure from above.
 
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What I really want to know is what will be the police's response to the friendlies defending their neighborhoods.

Will they stand by and let the community handle the trash, or follow orders to go in and charge the defenders of their own property as they have done to the McCloskeys?

We, the friendlies are on your side. We support you.


read an article regarding a couple of "close knit" <<hand on nose>> Italian / Irish neighborhoods that blocked their roads and were armed with firearms ( In NYC...gasp) and it seemed the NYPD did very little
https://www.americanthinker.co...t.html#ixzz6VO04hRVu

In most sane states/counties/cities I can't imagine much being done as long as the neighborhoods cooperated with PD/EMS for access. I would think it would depend highly on the threat level, have there been attacks close of have the commies stated they would be "visiting" the neighborhood.


As a resident of the Great State of Texas I cannot imagine a McCloskey incident making it past being questioned by the police let alone having your firearms taken. I would think the same for Georgia and most of the southern/midwestern states...

Words I will never forget from my first ROE briefing by a JAG officer "I was in fear of my life and acted to neutralize the threat"

And IMHO (not a lawyer) clubs and molotov cocktails are lethal weapons...if you want to bring them to a gunfight have at it Wink
 
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I have no idea what the hell is going on with the local "leadership" in some of these cities. The long-term effects of these riots are going to be crippling.

There's a few stores here in Chicago that are unable to re-open, others that are unwilling to re-open. Anything from the "Mom and Pop" shops to Macy's which occupies EIGHT floors in Water Tower Place.
That's a lot of revenue lost!

One estimate of the damage from last weeks shitshow was low balled at $60 Million, I'd honestly put it over $100 million. That's one night worth of looting. This is hitting a city that's already $700 million in the hole.

Someone is going to have to foot this bill.


Which brings up two additional related issues:

1) At some point, the sheer cost of repairing the stores and restocking the inventory outweighs any incentives or benefits to reopening on Michigan Avenue. What's Lightweight going to do---give free rent to retailers who stay? I seriously doubt that. The property owners need that income to rebuild the damage to their buildings.

2) If the stores don't return to Michigan Avenue, do they go to places like Oakbrook or other large and attractive shopping venues? If they do that, will the rioters and looters follow them out to those nice areas and make life miserable to the retailers and residents there? I'd think if that happened, those residents might fight back.

No good alternatives here.
 
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Portland still out of control

https://www.breitbart.com/2020...ce-offices-attacked/

Riots continued Wednesday evening in Portland, Oregon, as roughly 200 activists marched on the offices of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), smashed windows, set, fires, and attacked both local and federal police.

videos at link
 
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Governor pushes back after Chicago mayor lays blame on Mississippi....


It’s funny how these mayors always blame the violence on guns coming from free states, but fail to address why the free states don’t have gun violence issues. If the ease of getting guns is the problem why don’t the states these gun supposedly come from have problems?

Because it’s not a gun problem of course. It’s a cultural problem. These cities are full of thugs and the Democrats that run these cities encourage the thugs with their policies.




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