Point a gun at some people like that, and I bet some would see that as an immediate threat. I bet he would have regretted that if the driver put a couple rounds thru his windshield in response.

Yeah, we're gettin' there. No doubt about it.

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:
I would start really thinking of shooting someone with a Molotov cocktail when he:
1. Has it lit
2. Has his arm cocked back about to throw

If he’s in the street with it unlit, it is no harm to me....and he might be on his way to go “protest” elsewhere.

If it's lit, can you shoot the glass and let thermodynamics take care of it?

If the people of Snohomish County, WA could kick the commies out, I would hope that suburbs in red states could as well. https://lynnwoodtimes.com/2020...f-carmen-bests-home/

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:
Looking at that pic, would a driver be justified in hitting the gas pedal??

Would a firearm pointed at you reasonably put you in fear of your life or of grievous bodily injury? If so then deadly force is justified. The method is secondary.

If you are licensed to carry a handgun (need a license for concealed or open carry in Indiana), you cannot brandish to intimidate if not justified to use deadly force.

This kid just committed a serious felony, but he would claim he feared the truck would run him over. But illegally blocking a road and pointing firearms that those who don't yield to your will is escalation and thus ineligible to claim self defense.

These kids are playing with fire and are going to get themselves killed like the guy who shot the AK wielder.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-p...cord-numbers-n765835

By the time the month of August rolls off the calendar, there will have been a record number of Portland Police Bureau retirements. What that means is antifa and Black Lives Matter rioters’ demands that civil society “defund the police” and get “the pigs,” appear to be working in Portland, Oregon.

The cops are tapping out.

Portland – Antifistan – is on pace to lose the most cops ever to retirement.

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https://hotair.com/archives/jo...-replacements-sight/

A Third Of Minneapolis Police Could Leave The Force By The End Of The Year With No Replacements In Sight

Over the past two months, 40 cops have resigned, been fired or are in the process of leaving the force, and another 75 have taken a medical leave for post-traumatic stress disorder they say was caused by the riots that followed Floyd’s death. Dozens more are expected to file for leave in the coming months.

MPD officials not authorized to speak publicly estimate the department, which is budgeted for 888 officers this year, could lose as much as a third of its workforce by the end of the year.

The shortages highlight the challenge facing the city’s beleaguered police force as it faces calls for its defunding, or even abolishment.

Residents say that police are taking longer to respond to emergency calls, even as homicides, shootings and robberies have all increased by double digits from last year.

It would be very easy to become furious about current events, especially after watching that video, and the video of an old woman with a walker being assaulted and having paint thrown on her.

I just want those of you who are having difficulty keeping a lid on your anger - I'm right there with you.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:
Looking at that pic, would a driver be justified in hitting the gas pedal??

Would a firearm pointed at you reasonably put you in fear of your life or of grievous bodily injury? If so then deadly force is justified. The method is secondary.

If you are licensed to carry a handgun (need a license for concealed or open carry in Indiana), you cannot brandish to intimidate if not justified to use deadly force.

This kid just committed a serious felony, but he would claim he feared the truck would run him over. But illegally blocking a road and pointing firearms that those who don't yield to your will is escalation and thus ineligible to claim self defense.

These kids are playing with fire and are going to get themselves killed like the guy who shot the AK wielder.

'Joe Exotic' was fortunate to not become a speed bump in that video! These Fuckers are playing with fire and deserve to get burned....It's coming!

I showed Mrs DF the picture above with the female brandishing a handgun at a truck. Her jaw dropped. I kid you not, she went into the safe and is choosing a firearm to keep in the car while driving. Parabellum is right. These actions will bring reactions and threats will be met with force. At some point it will boil over.

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:
Looking at that pic, would a driver be justified in hitting the gas pedal??

That is not concealed, nor open carry.
He is brandishing a firearm, and not in self defense.

He drew his gun on the driver, not having it leveled at the driver is only a split second.

After the driver back’s up, they still chase him down, right there the driver was in real danger of being shot from the side with no ability to defend himself.

Perhaps the driver did not see the gun, but there probably would be a 50/50 chance of little Antifa becoming a speed bump, if he were to try that stunt again.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
I showed Mrs DF the picture above with the female brandishing a handgun at a truck. Her jaw dropped. I kid you not, she went into the safe and is choosing a firearm to keep in the car while driving. Parabellum is right. These actions will bring reactions and threats will be met with force. At some point it will boil over.

Yep. The more they enable this crap by not having consequences, the more the monster is going to grow. I never felt a camera was needed in my truck, but it may be time.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Yeah, we're gettin' there. No doubt about it.

Not concealed carry, not open carry. Both hands gripping gun with finger on trigger.

"Confrontation" between the Left and the rest of America is going to escalate. It will get to be gun against gun. The Left is waging war on America, there is no mistake about it.

And it has never been about a black guy with a knee on his neck.

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Looking at that pic, would a driver be justified in hitting the gas pedal??

There are two people that I see in the picture with guns in hand. No bravado intended, but I wouldn't have let off the gas. That picture scares me. The yellow shirt person's intentions seem clear to me.

There's another picture of a guy in a vehicle with the door open pointing his gun at a guy outside pointing his gun at the guy in the vehicle. That picture scares me as well. I'm not going to be either of those guys. There won't be time for a photo.

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Originally posted by tleddy:
When you are in your home and see someone preparing an incendiary device to use on your home, at what point is use of deadly force justified?

Walk toward my house in all black carrying a can of gas and you'll see first hand how I address this. But this isn't coming to my area of South Orlando either given the sheriff has already begun voicing concerns over the health of the protestors/rioters if they start that shit here in some of our neighborhoods. These black clad pussies are staying fairly close to areas they know they can receive cover from by local elected officials. They don't have that cover here from elected officials 'or' the sheriff's office, so we aren't likely to see much of the Portland nonsense here.

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Originally posted by sig226fan:
Point a gun at some people like that, and I bet some would see that as an immediate threat.

For all the Floridians on the board, repeat after me, "Officer, I was in fear for me life." That's the phrase that follows your shooting one of these assholes.

Louisville is also undergoing similar events in wake of the Breonna Taylor incident. But yet our Mayor and the Governor are more concerned about the CoVid numbers than protests and crime numbers. A spectator-less State Fair is going to occur next week, and the re-scheduled Derby may not have any fans too. We here in Louisville are under siege, but the Dem elected politicians are sticking their collective heads up each others asses. It’s all going to blow up soon and it’s not going to be good for anyone when it happens.

Auto theft/carjackings are up over 400% over same time as last year.
https://www.wdrb.com/news/vict...f9-37c0e3854f10.html

Shootings/murders are topping over all previous months.
https://www.wave3.com/2020/08/...e-unit-data-reports/

The driver in this video was assaulted by protestors (dreadlock pulled out) and tried to drive away but tapped her assailant who had brandished a firearm at her. Prosecutor said no charge on driver, but those who assaulted her were charged.
https://www.whas11.com/article...b5-bab7-3277863c66f9

Many LMPD are retiring due to the protests. 15% have retired in 2020 up thru July. The LMPD union says that the department is down 200 officers and are loosing at a rate faster than replacement.
https://www.wave3.com/2020/08/...-out-after-protests/

Imagine how fast this would resolve if LE made clear that it’s open season on these Bolsheviks. Wanted dead or alive. 50.00 per scalp.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Would a firearm pointed at you reasonably put you in fear of your life or of grievous bodily injury? If so then deadly force is justified. The method is secondary.

If you are licensed to carry a handgun (need a license for concealed or open carry in Indiana), you cannot brandish to intimidate if not justified to use deadly force.

This kid just committed a serious felony, but he would claim he feared the truck would run him over. But illegally blocking a road and pointing firearms that those who don't yield to your will is escalation and thus ineligible to claim self defense.

These kids are playing with fire and are going to get themselves killed like the guy who shot the AK wielder.

Shit like this (referring to pic on page) don't happen in Texas for obvious reasons. And to answer your first question, YES! All day, EVERY day in Texas. And guess what? In Texas, that gun doesn't even have to be pointed at my specific person. If individual in that pic is pointing it at the car in front of me, I have the responsibility to neutralize that threat if I deem it necessary to save life and limb of another. The ensuing court battle may be a long and expensive, but I got noting else goin' on...

I believe first choice, however, is ALWAYS "flight" over "fight" with the caveat of "if able".

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Originally posted by parabellum:
It would be very easy to become furious about current events, especially after watching that video, and the video of an old woman with a walker being assaulted and having paint thrown on her.

I just want those of you who are having difficulty keeping a lid on your anger - I'm right there with you.

Anger is one thing, but major apprehension is what I'm feeling right now. I mentioned in a thread response that I view all this nonsense as simply awaiting a spark. How long before somebody encounters this sort of situation and opens up on these morons killing a half dozen of them. What comes after that concerns me greatly.

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
Shit like this (referring to pic on page) don't happen in Texas for obvious reasons...

It can happen, but they don't get away with it for long there, as Garrett Foster found out.



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Originally posted by Ackks:
I never felt a camera was needed in my truck, but it may be time.

Just remember what a police officer friend always reminds me about cameras. They can potentially exonerate you, or they can be used to sink you. I'm good without one.