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Originally posted by armored:
Every night on the news ( must fight a constant urge to vomit while I watch) I see one story line after the other, day after day, NEED MORE POLICE!
Bus driver shot in the face downtown, union leader says "we need more police on the buses".
Murder, assault,robbery, and car jackings downtown, alderman has a "high level" meeting, result of meeting, we need more police.
Murder, assault, rape,robbery on the L platforms and trains,"we need more police".
Cities reaction, handcuff the police.
Don't chase suspects on foot, don't chase suspects by car, don't lie to suspects. Stand back now that the CPD and the City are being sued for traffic stops, guess how that will end.
They ALL WANT more police, FOR WHAT!
We all hear the chant " Blacks are arrested in a much greater number than whites" must be racist, can't have this,forget that Blacks commit vastly more crime than whites. Cities solution, Don't arrest black criminals.
I have no sympathy for the downtown business owners or the downtown residents. They all constantly vote Democratic, let them hide and shake in the corners of there homes and businesses.
States Attorney Foxx who is an insult to any other demographic ( except Minnesota and California residents)was re-elected by over 200,000 votes in the last election, that alone tells the story of the city.
Hopeless!

They don't WANT "police", what they WANT is scarecrows, and a whole mess of them. That's going to work out for about a week, until they figure out it's a "hands-off" approach.
Oh, they NEED police, but at this stage of the game, who wants to be the police? Especially here!
(The pickins' is a slim from the pool of new people that are coming on the department today, and we're hemorrhaging officers left and right. In order to keep up with our attrition rate, we're going to have to lower the bar a lot)

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Originally posted by CPD SIG:
[W]e're going to have to lower the bar a lot

Funny how that works out, isn't it?

But for the clueless, it's not only the Defund the Police crowd that is responsible; they are only the most recent—and effective so far. Over the years I've seen countless bizarre and unreasonable expectations expressed by other groups and individuals.

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Originally posted by radioman:
Portland's mayor now says that having no police at a recent riot was a mistake.

ya think

what an idiot. He changed his mind about no police response after an entire neighborhood let them know that they were terrorized for hours with no police response.

Freaking idiot.

He's preparing to run for governor.

I am finding this discussion riveting because when I was a teacher I formed my opinion on under achieving students based on anecdotal evidence that I gathered.

The strongest indicator I found for academic and social success was a strong family. The highest example of this is the "traditional" family.

Expectations of success in school fostered in the home created students who knew my role as teacher was one valued by their family.

What struck me about BigDeal's assertion was that a small percentage of a percentage were the REAL problem. I found that to be true as well. A few students were the cause of repeated "major" incidents.

Reading the responses from our LE members seemed to support this idea. I believe that the breakdown of family precipitates many of the criminal issues we see in society today.

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Originally posted by rsbolo:
I believe that the breakdown of family precipitates many of the criminal issues we see in society today.

100% agree and this all began with the social welfare programs of the 60s and we have been heading toward the abyss ever since.

Rsbolo, you are right. When I was policing 1-2% committed 95% of the crime. And most of the 1-2% was from the black community. There was some white trash in that group, but mostly it was blacks. And in 18 years I recall only one white person being murdered- the rest was BLK on BLK gang/dope shit.

My grandparents were teachers and they could tell the bad seeds by second grade. And were right more often than not.

And I agree, a whole intact family plays a huge role in wether a child does well in school or not.

Even in the criminal population, only a few are trouble makers. I worked at a state prison for years and 10% of the population caused 90% of the problems. Same with people on probation and parole.

One part of having a strong family providing support in many ways, is for the breadwinners to earn a reasonable living. If the dad and mom cannot buy or even rent a decent place to live, typically things are going to go downhill for the kids.

Sending our manufacturing jobs to China and elsewhere is a YUGE part of the problem. Thank the globalists for this, and the spineless politicians as well.

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Originally posted by CPD SIG:
the problem will continue until someone remembers how to run a bastard out on a rail, tar and feather a son-of-a-bitch, or hang someone from a tall oak tree in front of a courthouse.

What, no boiling in oil?

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Originally posted by rsbolo:
I believe that the breakdown of family precipitates many of the criminal issues we see in society today.

IMO, the breakdown of the nuclear family (promoted and perpetuated by government) is at the very core of 'everything' wrong with this country today. 50 years of government promoting and incentivizing everything that can destroy the very fabric of society has brought us to where we are today.

Brilliant.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...-department-n2596056

the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled Thursday evening that votes cast by residents of the state's largest city on a ballot question — whether the Minneapolis Police Department should be eliminated and replaced with a public safety agency — could be counted.

Pushed by the group Yes 4 Minneapolis, the ballot question would amend the city's charter to remove requirements for a police department staffed by a certain number of officers and instead develop "a comprehensive public health approach to safety."

This amendment would create a Department of Public Safety combining public safety functions through a comprehensive public health approach to be determined by the Mayor and Council. The department would be led by a Commissioner nominated by the Mayor and appointed by the Council. The Police Department, and its chief, would be removed from the City Charter. The Public Safety Department could include police officers, but the minimum funding requirement would be eliminated.

early voting in Minneapolis starts today

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Originally posted by sdy:
Pushed by the group Yes 4 Minneapolis, the ballot question would amend the city's charter to remove requirements for a police department staffed by a certain number of officers and instead develop "a comprehensive public health approach to safety."

A suggestion. Add a line item to the city budget for body bags and additional coroner hours, and add a bunch of money to that line item. These morons are going to need those.

The wording on the ballot is very convoluted and confusing. After reading it you have no idea what a yes vote or no vote means.

^^^ One of the dirty little secrets about voter initiatives.

Some jurisdictions retain the authority to reword voter initiatives "to make sure they comply with the law and are enforceable". In abstract, this makes sense: if you look at California law voter initiatives can be confusing, contradictory or stated in outright unConstitutional terms.

The dirty trick comes in the opportunity to play games with the language. Making the proposal utterly incomprehensible is an old and honored way of turning voters off from voting for the proposal. The confusion may then be used in an effort to either cripple the initiative or reverse its effects entirely.

In Austin TX, the city and county tried to blunt two initiatives; one against the homeless camping out everywhere and another that would reverse the radical defunding of the police in the name of 'community oriented policing'. In both cases, the city rewrote the initiative before allowing it to be placed on the ballot and did so in such a way as to not only be confusing but to actually produce a result that was the opposite of what the people intended.

The local bipartisan advocacy group wound up going to court to prevent the 'clarified' language about police funding from being put on the ballot in the upcoming election. The 'clarified' version was such a misrepresented and convoluted mess that the court agreed to prohibit the 'clarified' version from being put on the ballot and allowed a clear and correct version to be put on the ballot instead.

Why local government would try to pee on local citizens' shoes and tell them it's raining like that is beyond logic (or at least beyond me, but hey - I actually pay attention). Be aware though, particularly if you back local or state initiatives, that 'clarification' is most definitely a weapon in the bad guys' armory and it may be necessary to fight just to get clear language on the ballot.

They should stop messing around and abolish their police department. They are trying to put a band aid on a gunshot wound here.

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Originally posted by jljones:
They should stop messing around and abolish their police department. They are trying to put a band aid on a gunshot wound here.

The people that replace the police aren’t going to be the softhearted social worker types we think.

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
The wording on the ballot is very convoluted and confusing. After reading it you have no idea what a yes vote or no vote means.

So business as usual. Got it.

Meanwhile in Washington D.C. today at the rally for our political prisoners that was organized by patriots Feds.








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