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Kellyanne Conway said Sean Spicer provided "Alrenative Facts".

I am not OK with alternative facts or falshoods from either Government spokesman or the media.

I am tired of the false reporting from the media.
The Trump administration should be better than this.


But, what if the alternative facts are true??

Then they would be facts.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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I do not blame President Trump for jousting with the press. But, I think he should just let the petty stuff like crowd size go. There are, and will be, much more important stuff to fight about.

Never show weakness. Let nothing go. If you give an inch they will never stop taking.

Remember how GWB was a passive punching bag for the press? He would never respond. It was beneath his dignity. How did that work out? We got Obama.


I recall the El Diablo felt like he had not come to Washington to cater to the egomaniacs in the media. He wasn't as experienced in the way the media works, so did not mount an offensive. Trump is a media/PR master who has had those guys on their heels for 18 months. It's been like the media is trapped in quicksand.... the more they have struggled, the deeper they have sunk in.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Problem is the photos seem to indicate the media was correct on crowd size.


How "big the crowd was" is not all that important to me. What is important is the nonstop never ending attempts of MSM to delegitimize Trump.




above is the NY Times picture to show 2009 crowd compared to 2016. It is from:

https://www.nytimes.com/intera...uguration-crowd.html

As seen in the other photos this is a gross attempt to deceive the public.

An honest media would note there were 75 protest groups trying to hinder access to the Trump inauguration and that they had been announcing their intent for weeks.

Perhaps an honest media would observe that Washington DC voted 93% for obama in 2009, and 93% for Clinton in 2016. The neighboring states of MD and VA also both went to obama and Clinton. So all of the immediate population was overwhelmingly on the side of the protesters.


I remember seeing this shot BEFORE the inauguration actually started because I remember thinking "wow, they sure are waiting until the last minute to let the crowds in". The same camera angle later in broadcast showed a full house.

That being said, it likely was still smaller and as many have said, it doesn't matter. He's still the President.
 
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Very true, the crowd size is meaningless.
Trump is thankfully our President.
Being provide "alternative facts" regardless of subject is what my concern is.
Don't lie to me that's the media and Democrats job.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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I bet more than half of that 2009 crowd fell for that hope and change bullshit, and a quarter of it is from white guilt garbage. So, BFD. Roll Eyes


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I was very surprised to see Chris Wallace just use the distorted inauguration photos to misstate the crowd size to say that the press conference was wrong.

He clearly needs to follow SIGforum.

What happened to his researchers? I do think Chris Wallace really tries but he whiffed on this one by perpetuating a media lie.


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A year from now, no one will be talking about the size of the Inauguration Day crowd.




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I was very surprised to see Chris Wallace just use the distorted inauguration photos to misstate the crowd size to say that the press conference was wrong.

He clearly needs to follow SIGforum.

What happened to his researchers? I do think Chris Wallace really tries but he whiffed on this one by perpetuating a media lie.


Well, he is a democrat...


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Originally posted by kimber1911:
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Originally posted by mrmn50:
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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Kellyanne Conway said Sean Spicer provided "Alrenative Facts".

I am not OK with alternative facts or falshoods from either Government spokesman or the media.

I am tired of the false reporting from the media.
The Trump administration should be better than this.


But, what if the alternative facts are true??

Then they would be facts.


Fact-- 1+1= 2
Alternate Fact 5 - 3= 2
 
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I was very surprised to see Chris Wallace just use the distorted inauguration photos to misstate the crowd size to say that the press conference was wrong.


I was astonished to see Wallace doing this--anyone who watched the live video of the ceremony and the speech could see that the Mall was filled to overflowing.


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I was very surprised to see Chris Wallace just use the distorted inauguration photos to misstate the crowd size to say that the press conference was wrong.

He clearly needs to follow SIGforum.

What happened to his researchers? I do think Chris Wallace really tries but he whiffed on this one by perpetuating a media lie.


Well, he is a democrat...


I keep hoping he'll turn out to be a journalist.


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Originally posted by Tubetone:
I was very surprised to see Chris Wallace just use the distorted inauguration photos to misstate the crowd size to say that the press conference was wrong.

He clearly needs to follow SIGforum.

What happened to his researchers? I do think Chris Wallace really tries but he whiffed on this one by perpetuating a media lie.


Well, he is a democrat...


I keep hoping he'll turn out to be a journalist.


In all seriousness, Wallace is better than that. I am surprised to hear he did that as well.


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I bet … a quarter of it is from white guilt garbage.


Even though I posted a complaint about the continuing attention being paid to that man, your post reminded me of a supposed Russian proverb I read long ago about a type of former traveling entertainment show:

“The marvel is not that the bear dances well, but that the bear dances at all.”

Many people originally voted for the novelty of the thing and then had to confirm—to their delighted surprise—that it danced at all.




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During Mr. Trump's speech, half a dozen or so young military officers suddenly appeared behind him.

Has anyone figured out what that was about? Where they handing out rain gear, or was there some actual purpose to it?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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They showed up the instant it started raining. Umbrella duty would be my guess. . .



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I sent Chris Wallace an email. Told him he used a totally inappropriate picture and gave him the link to the CNN gigapixel.

That was a major mistake by Wallace.

If you wish to send to Wallace, this is the link:

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/...unday-chris-wallace/

In the upper right inside the red bar, there is an email symbol all the way on the right. You can click on it to bring up a dialog box to email.
 
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Busy day coming tomorrow: LINK

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Donald Trump Embarks on His First Week With a Heavy Slate
The new president plans executive orders and will meet with congressional leaders

[Go to URL to view photo] President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence arrived to a swearing in of White House senior staff in the East Room of the White House Sunday. PHOTO: ANDREW HARRER/PRESS POOL

By MICHAEL C. BENDER, NATALIE ANDREWS and ANDREW ACKERMAN
Updated Jan. 22, 2017 8:21 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON—President Donald Trump starts his first week with a packed schedule—from pushing through his slate of cabinet nominees to a raft of executive orders and setting the direction on foreign trade.

Mr. Trump is planning executive actions early in the week on immigration and trade, two White House officials said, and will have a chance to lay the groundwork for a trade deal during a meeting Friday with British Prime Minister Theresa May , the first foreign leader to visit the new president in the White House. He also will meet with congressional leaders on Monday and attend a lawmakers’ retreat later in the week, where he could discuss his legislative agenda.

The president’s pick to run the Central Intelligence Agency, Kansas Rep. Mike Pompeo, is scheduled for a confirmation vote in the Senate on Monday, and White House officials expect at least three more cabinet nominees—Ben Carson for Housing and Urban Development, Nikki Haley as United Nations ambassador and Rick Perry for energy secretary—to face votes by week’s end. Rex Tillerson, meanwhile, on Sunday cleared a key hurdle on his path to become secretary of state.

Mr. Trump was optimistic about the beginning of his presidency despite a rocky first weekend that saw mass anti-Trump protests across the nation and world and his representatives’ repeated falsehoods about media reporting of verifiable events.
Massive Protests Target Trump's Agenda

Clearing Mr. Trump’s nominees is a top priority because he is starting his presidency with a much thinner cabinet than his predecessor. On Barack Obama’s first day in office in 2009, the Senate approved six members of his cabinet. A seventh, Defense Secretary Bob Gates, was a holdover from the George W. Bush administration. The Senate that day confirmed an eighth nominee, Peter Orszag, to lead the Office of Management and Budget.

The retreat for Republican House and Senate lawmakers, in Philadelphia, is set for Wednesday evening through Friday and will tighten this week’s schedule for voting on cabinet picks.

Republican Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham said Sunday they would support Mr. Tillerson’s nomination for the State Department after the lawmakers had expressed concerns about the former Exxon Mobil Corp. chief’s ties to senior members of the Russian government. That increases the likelihood that Senate Republicans will confirm most, if not all, of the president’s cabinet nominations, as Mr. Tillerson was seen as the nominee drawing the most GOP opposition.

A third Senate Republican, Florida’s Marco Rubio, had shared those concerns and is widely seen as the key vote on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, where Republicans hold a one-vote majority. But even if the committee doesn’t approve Mr. Tillerson for the State Department post, the full Senate can still vote on his nomination—a rare procedural tactic.

“After careful consideration, and much discussion with Mr. Tillerson, we have decided to support his nomination to be Secretary of State,” Messrs. McCain and Graham said in a statement. “Though we still have concerns about his past dealings with the Russian government and President Vladimir Putin, we believe that Mr. Tillerson can be an effective advocate for U.S. interests.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Sunday predicted the Senate would confirm all of Mr. Trump’s cabinet picks, over Democratic lawmakers’ objections to some of them.

On Friday, the Senate confirmed retired Gen. James Mattis as secretary of defense and retired Gen. John Kelly as Homeland Security secretary.

Cabinet nominees need a simple-majority vote to win confirmation, a threshold Republicans, who hold 52 seats, will likely meet. But Democrats have some say in the timing of floor action and can stretch out the process by forcing debates on the Senate floor.

Senate leaders haven’t indicated which nominees could come up next. Confirmation votes are possible for former Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, Mr. Trump’s choice to lead the Transportation Department, and Rep. Ryan Zinke (R., Mont.), who would head the Interior Department. Both are expected to win confirmation whenever those votes occur.

Many of the Senate committees holding hearings on the nominations haven’t voted on them yet, a key step in the confirmation process.

Mr. McConnell on Sunday blamed Senate Democratic leader Charles Schumer and others in his party for delays in the nomination process.

“What’s been unfortunate is that all I asked for of my colleague, Sen. Schumer, was to treat President Trump the same way as we treated President Obama,” he said on Fox News.

Mr. Schumer said paperwork delays and a tight hearing schedule have prolonged the confirmation process.

“Over the last several weeks, Republicans have made a mockery of the cabinet hearings process, trying to jam through nominees in truncated hearings, with serious conflicts of interest and ethical issues unresolved, and without giving senators and the American people a fair chance to question and hear from these nominees,” Mr. Schumer said Friday on the Senate floor.

Delays from Mr. Trump’s nominees in filing paperwork resulted in holding up several initial confirmation hearings until last week. Education Department nominee Betsy DeVos’s hearing was held last Tuesday without her ethics paperwork having been turned in—though it has since been filed. The committee plans to vote Jan. 31 on her nomination.

Fast food executive Andy Puzder, Mr. Trump’s pick for labor secretary, also hasn’t filed all his required paperwork. His committee hearing has been scheduled for Feb. 2.

Write to Michael C. Bender at Mike.Bender@wsj.com, Natalie Andrews at Natalie.Andrews@wsj.com and Andrew Ackerman at andrew.ackerman@wsj.com


This article perpetuates the assertion of ". . .his representatives’ repeated falsehoods about media reporting of verifiable events. . ."

Suggest we all send to the three authors of this article, at the e-mail addresses listed above, the pertinent photos of the crowd, and also point out the fact that the MLK bust was NOT removed as reported by the MSM.


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Who would really want to be that close to the skank?


Apparently people who voted for HRC have a high tolerance for skankism. Go figure...



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I honestly don't understand all the love for Chris Wallace.

I don't like him or dislike him but there is little doubt in my mind who he voted for. He has always been a never-Trumper, never understood the Trump supporters nor the movement that swept Trump into the White House. He, along with several others at Fox, will spend the next four years wondering when Trump will wake up and start acting Presidential.

I guess that is OK, but it will start getting old, at least with me.



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How I feel these days.


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