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Fire begets Fire |
No. Genuinely curious. Wasn’t meant to be offensive. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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paradox in a box |
We aren’t trying to piss you off. But if you are reading a story it’s common courtesy to copy the link. I searched for the article and got about 10 suspect links to crappy sites before finding the link I posted. It’s a pain in the ass to go google every article mentioned here. Now as far as CPAC I don’t see any reason you need to spell that out. We should all be aware where our President is speaking. These go to eleven. | |||
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| Fire begets Fire |
 "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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By googling the info, one can judge the possible veracity of the info based on the sites reporting. Posting a link drives traffic to a web site. Headline Joe Biden asks Canada to invade so he can get a bump in popularity. Was going to ask Mexico, but that happened years ago I really would not trust much info coming out now. Just like any other day of spin Just teasin | |||
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Ammoholic |
Not so sure about that first statement. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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| Fire begets Fire |
Fair ‘nuff  "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Dies Irae |
Japanese billionaire Hiroshi Mikitani donates ¥1 billion to Ukraine
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| Knows too little about too much  |
So, Vlad the bare chested has put his nuclear forces on "HIGH ALERT". Hopefully a bluff, but if this doesn't wake NATO and the non-NATO European countries up, nothing will. We can hope it is a bluff, but he may just be paranoid enough to use tactical nukes in Ukraine. Appears things are not going his way right now. TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…” Remember: After the first one, the rest are free. | |||
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| Freethinker |
And regardless of whether things are going his way. I cannot believe that whether they are or aren’t going as well as he’d like that the final result isn’t obvious. Nevertheless, he has more to worry about than what’s happening in Ukraine. He could decide to pop a nuke or two just to say to the rest of the world, “See: I’m serious about you not interfering. Don’t start none and there won’t be none.” Just as I have watched recent events in Canada through the lens of the early events described in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, I am thinking now of all the histories I’ve read about events leading up to many wars. Very often the people who were caught up in them were stunned when they happened: “We thought it was all bluff and bluster, and never would actually occur.” I’m seeing many similarities between today and the many thens, and even though things ultimately die down more often than not, sometimes they don’t. And part of the danger now is the leadership in the West. People who have no experience other than being politicians and bending with every political wind often make bad decisions—and that assumes that there could be any good decisions at this stage of things. World War II in Europe didn’t start because of single decisions made overnight. It took 20 years of bad decisions and non-decisions to make it possible. Plus, as T. R. Fehrenbach pointed out in his book This Kind of War about Korea, “To make a war, sometimes it is necessary that everyone guess wrong.” ► 6.4/93.6 “Cet animal est très méchant, quand on l’attaque il se défend.” | |||
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If he's not bluffing about using nukes he's either insane or terminally ill and just doesn't give a damn. | |||
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It is my understanding that Russia and China both have nuclear capable hypersonic missles. The U.S. is still trying to develop them. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
From https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-...e-updates/a-60931396 | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
So much for open defiance. | |||
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| Fighting the good fight |
It's better to negotiate from a position of strength. Russia has encountered stronger opposition than expected, has achieved lesser gains than expected, has suffered higher losses than expected, is experiencing more pushback at home than expected, and is running into major logistical issues with numerous vehicles reportedly having to be abandoned due to lack of fuel. All of that works in Ukraine's favor, heading into negotiations now. The situation may not be as favorable for Ukraine if they were to wait another week/weeks. If nothing else, it gives them the opportunity to hear the Russian demands, and reject them outright, as a show of strength. | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head  |
I don't have a fraction of the reading of history books or the perspective you've achieved, but even to a simple man such as myself with an incomplete knowledge of history, these truths are painfully obvious. The similarities between the events leading up to world-shaping history and human tragedies of the past and events happening in real time before our eyes are both poignant and ironic. I find myself repeatedly asking the question how can so many people, in so many countries, continually vote and support so many government leaders in making so many of the decisions that have resulted in so much tragedy and misery in the past.. I know at least some of the answers to my questions; personal ambitions, delusional quests for power and control, a collective and accepted ignorance to name a few... ...but I still find myself asking the question how can we find ourselves here again?This message has been edited. Last edited by: Modern Day Savage, | |||
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Fortunate the soldier was not anxious to plug an old lady noncombatant. Depending on his orders (or not) he probably could have killed her w/out consequence. Yea, that lady has huge ones. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Not necessarily. According to my Russian acquaintance:
Translated (by him):
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
As has been pointed out in this thread, links to news stories are expected. Something as important as this story should have a source. [Note: embedded video and hyperlinks found at linked website article. I had previously linked to an audio interview of Rebekah Koffler, the former DIA intelligence officer quoted in the article below, in the other Ukraine thread.] ====================== Putin orders nuclear deterrent forces status raised to ‘special combat readiness’ Putin says 'NATO members made aggressive statements' By Emma Colton | Fox News Published February 27, 2022 8:55am EST Russian President Vladimir Putin raised the alert status for his nuclear forces to "special regime of combat duty" as Russia and Ukraine battle for the fourth day. Putin ordered the Russian defense minister and the chief of the military's General Staff to put the nuclear deterrent forces in a "special regime of combat duty." The move signals tensions could boil over into a nuclear war. "He is right now threatening a nuclear escalation," said former DIA intelligence officer Rebekah Koffler. "This a veiled threat – or maybe such a veiled threat - he just met with his chief of general staff and minister of defense. He is escalating the conflict into the nuclear domain in order to de-escalate – that is topple Kyiv’s regime quickly." Putin spoke at a meeting Sunday with his top advisers and said NATO powers had made "aggressive statements" and that the West was imposing hard-hitting financial sanctions against Russia and himself. "Western countries aren’t only taking unfriendly actions against our country in the economic sphere, but top officials from leading NATO members made aggressive statements regarding our country," Putin said in televised comments. U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that Putin's order is an unacceptable escalation. "It means that President Putin is continuing to escalate this war in a manner that is totally unacceptable and we have to continue to stem his actions in the strongest possible way," she said. Putin warned last week that countries who interfere with his invasion of Ukraine will face "consequences you have never seen." | |||
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| Internet Guru |
Good grief. We're watching too much of our broken media. This is hysteria at this point. | |||
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| Nullus Anxietas |
Who's "we," kemosabe? "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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