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Of course we've heard nothing even remotely like this from the current administration. What we hear is "everyone who wants to leave..." __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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At this point, I'd give every Afghan who gets turned-away at the gate a pistol and a box of ammo. After the last airplane departs, put a bullet into those guys with the black turbans. There's more of you who've lived with some calm than those guys who just want to mutilate, rape and kill anybody who they don't like | |||
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Taliban kill squad hunting down Afghans — using US biometric data https://nypost.com/2021/08/27/...icas-biometric-data/ The Taliban has mobilized a special unit, called Al Isha, to hunt down Afghans who helped US and allied forces — and it’s using US equipment and data to do it. Nawazuddin Haqqani, one of the brigade commanders over the Al Isha unit, bragged in an interview with Zenger News that his unit is using US-made hand-held scanners to tap into a massive US-built biometric database and positively identify any person who helped the NATO allies or worked with Indian intelligence. Afghans who try to deny or minimize their role will find themselves contradicted by the detailed computer records that the US left behind in its frenzied withdrawal. The existence of the Al Isha unit has not been previously confirmed by the Taliban; until now the Haqqani Network, a terror group aligned with the Taliban, has not admitted its role in targeting Afghans or its use of America’s vast biometric database. The Haqqani Network is “the most lethal and sophisticated insurgent group targeting US, Coalition, and Afghan forces,” according to the US National Counterterrorism Center. The US separately has provided the Taliban with a list of Americans and Afghans it wants to evacuate from the country, a move one defense official told Politico was “just put[ing] all those Afghans on a kill list. But the power and reach of the US biometric database is much larger and more comprehensive. Virtually everyone who worked with the Afghan government or the US military, including interpreters, drivers, nurses, and secretaries, was fingerprinted and scanned for the biometric database over the past 12 years. US officials have not confirmed how many of the 7,000 hand-held scanners were left behind or whether the biometric database could be remotely deleted. The US State and Defense departments acknowledged receipt of questions from Zenger for this story on Tuesday. Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Anton Semelroth said he would forward them to “the right folks” but did not provide answers by press time. State Department press officer Nicole Thompson said the questions were “being worked” inside the agency but also didn’t provide a response. White House Deputy Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre did not respond to multiple requests for comment. “Now that Kabul is taken, operational work has taken a back seat and we’ve turned our focus on counterintelligence,” Nawazuddin Haqqani told Zenger in a mobile phone conversation on Saturday. “While most of the brigade is now resting in different madrassas [Islamic religious schools], the Al Isha group is now the principal agency handling this [biometric] data project.” “We’re in control of the Interior Ministry and the national biometric database they kept. We have everyone’s data with us now — including journalists and so-called human rights people. We haven’t killed a single foreign journalist, have we? We aren’t arresting the families of these people [who are on the blacklist] either,” he said. “But American, NDS [Afghanistan’s National Directorate of Security] and RAW’s [India’s Research and Analysis Wing] puppets won’t be let off. They will always be watched by Al Isha. Those who were barking about having US dollars in their pockets till a few days back — they won’t be spared. They can’t be spared, can they?” The database, which includes fingerprints, iris scans, and other biographical data, was housed in a white-washed building at the Ministry of Interior in Kabul. “The centerpiece of the program is the Afghan Automated Biometric Identification System (AABIS), administered by about 50 Afghans at the Ministry of Interior in Kabul,” according to a 2011 FBI news release. The US Army issued an official “Commander’s Guide to Biometrics In Afghanistan” manual in 2011. The U.S. started with data from some 300,000 Afghans in 2009, mainly prisoners and Afghan soldiers according to NATO, and the biometrics center opened in November 2010. US officials aimed to compile information on as many as 25 million Afghans, roughly 80 percent of the population, Annie Jacobsen, author of “First Platoon: A Story of Modern War in The Age of Identity Dominance” (Penguin, 2020), told National Public Radio last year. The exact number of Afghans covered by the database remains classified. At first, the US hoped to use the biometric database to spot Taliban infiltrators or catch the makers of roadside bombs, which had claimed the lives of hundreds of American and allied sources since 2001. Later, it evolved into a way to identify virtually every Afghan that US forces hired or visited. By 2014, the US Army was calling its strategy “identity dominance.” “We are not collecting new data — we already have it,” said Nawazuddin Haqqani. “The group [Al Isha] just keeps an eye that if someone has worked for America or the National Directorate of Security [the former Afghan government’s intelligence agency].” The database is also used to find any person who worked with British, European or Indian intelligence services, he said. “The matter is being blown out of proportion by the foreign media and its nothing more than a campaign to malign us,” he said. He contended that the database was used to spare the lives of foreign journalists. The Al Isha unit has more than doubled in size, from 500 to nearly 1,100 over the past month, he told Zenger, and spread out into many of Afghanistan’s 34 provinces. Asked about reports that Pakistani intelligence officers were supervising the Al Isha unit’s use of biometric data to interrogate former U.S. allies, Nawazuddin Haqqani didn’t deny the Pakistan connection. “You are not that naive — you know the answer to that,” he said. “But what I can say is, it’s not necessary to train everyone in Pakistan. The Emirs [local Taliban chieftains] are quite capable of training the foot soldiers to handle the equipment.” This suggests Pakistan’s spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence or ISI, has access to America’s biometric database. If Al Isha can identify Indian intelligence sources in Afghanistan, the Pakistanis will pursue them as well. Asked about details of the data collection, he refused to answer and said: “This is a question which [Taliban political spokesperson Suhail] Shaheen should answer.” Shaheen declined to comment on the existence of Al Isha, the presence of Pakistani intelligence officers and the use of U.S.-made biometric technology in Afghanistan. Nawazuddin Haqqani revealed the history and command structure of the Al Isha unit. “The Al Isha isn’t a new thing. It’s one of the three groups under the Khalil Haqqani Brigade,” he said. The brigade is a military unit of more than 2,000 fighters that is named after Khalil Haqqani, who has a $5 million bounty on his head and leads the Badri 313 unit, which recently mocked the iconic photo of U.S. Marines raising an American flag on Iwo Jima. Khalil Haqqani is the brother of the late Jalaluddin Haqqani, who mentored Osama Bin Laden and later served as a cabinet minister for the Taliban in the 1990s. Nawazuddin Haqqani is a member of the Haqqani clan whom Khalil personally put in charge of counterintelligence operations in Kabul. In many ways, Nawazuddin is treated as Khalil’s son. But their exact family relationship is debated among western intelligence analysts and is a sensitive topic that Taliban and Haqqani sources refuse to comment on. In a different part of Kabul, a 26-year-old former Afghan National Army corps commander was reached on his mobile phone on Aug. 16, hours after the Taliban seized the city. “Well, I have reached home safely and am with my parents, wife and child,” he said. “But I don’t think I will be here for long. They’re going door to door and scanning everyone with biometric scanners, and they’ll knock on my doors anytime now.” Asked if he was referring to the Taliban, his words were precise: “The Al Isha actually.” The corps commander, who asked that his name be withheld because Al Isha is actively hunting him, says he is in the biometric database because of his volunteer work as a media coordinator with an Afghan nonprofit organization. “The Afghan Taliban are incapable of handling the biometric equipment or the database” he said. “Every search party is overseen by a Pakistani officer or a member of the Haqqani Network.” The former corps commander’s phone has since gone dead. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Looks like the president handed them a hit list and the tools necessary for a cleansing. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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These American men's deaths were the direct result of incompetence at the highest levels. Utah marine among those killed in Afghanistan attack By: Jeff Tavss Posted at 3:51 PM, Aug 27, 2021 and last updated 6:16 PM, Aug 27, 2021 SALT LAKE CITY — A U.S. Marine from Utah was among those killed during Thursday's attack at the Kabul airport. Darin Hoover told FOX 13 that his son, Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover, lost his life in the attack that killed 13 U.S. service members in Afghanistan. “He did what he loved, was leading his men and was with them to the end," said Hoover. "He loved these United States and proved it by his service. We are so heartbroken and feel for the families of his fallen brothers as well. Our condolences go out to them in this trying time.” https://www.fox13now.com/news/...n-afghanistan-attack ********* And they have every right and reason to rage. Fathers of Marines killed in Kabul attack rage against Biden, brass By Samuel Chamberlain August 27, 2021 5:58pm Updated The fathers of two Marines killed in Thursday’s suicide attack at Kabul’s international airport have expressed outrage at the US government’s handling of the withdrawal of American forces, with one claiming that President Biden “turned his back” on his murdered son. “They sent my son over there as a paper pusher and then had the Taliban outside providing security,” Steve Nikoui, the father of Kareem Nikoui, told The Daily Beast. “I blame my own military leaders … Biden turned his back on him. That’s it.” Steve Nikoui told the website that he was notified of son’s death by a group of Marines who showed up on his doorstep Thursday evening. The elder Nikoui said he had stayed home from work after hearing the news of Thursday’s attack and had been “glued to the TV” waiting for any word of his son. Nikoui said the Marines who delivered the dreaded news were “more choked up than me.” “I was actually trying to console them,” he said. “But at the same time, I just wanted them to get out as soon as possible so that no one from my family came back and saw them. I thought it appropriate that I be able to tell them.” Before being sent over to Afghanistan, Kareem Nikoui had been stationed at Camp Pendleton, near his family’s Southern California home. Steve Nikoui recalled that his son regularly made trips home on weekends, often bringing “10 or 15 other Marines” with him. “My wife and I felt very honored that [since] these other boys weren’t around their homes, that we were able to provide some sort of family life for them,” said Nikoui, who added that his son “really loved that [Marine Corps] family. He was devoted. He was going to make a career out of this, and he wanted to go. “No hesitation for him to be called to duty.” In Missouri, the father of 20-year-old Marine Lance Cpl. Jared Schmitz told radio station KMOX Friday he was “incredibly devastated” by his son’s death. Mark Schmitz said that his son, who had been sent to Afghanistan from Jordan in recent weeks, had always wanted to become a Marine. “I have never seen a young man train as hard as he did to be the best soldier he could be,” he said. “And that’s a big part of, obviously, why we’re all devastated and sad, but there’s so much anger right now because he wasn’t even given that opportunity to demonstrate all the skills he had perfected and learned while in the Corps.” “He took his job very seriously,” Mark Schmitz said of his son. “And somebody just came along and took the easy way out and ended everything for him and for us and for those others that were killed.” When asked if he had a message for Americans grieving his family’s loss, Schmitz responded: “Be afraid of our leadership, or lack thereof. Pray every day for the soldiers that are putting their lives at risk and doing what they love, which is protecting all of us. I think they’re the only ones that we can honestly say have our backs.” Nikoui, Schmitz, and 11 other US service members were killed when a suicide bomber attacked the Abbey Gate of Hamid Karzai International Airport, where thousands of people have gathered over the past two weeks in a desperate attempt to get on evacuation flights out of the Taliban-controlled country. In addition to the 13 US forces who were killed, at least 18 other service members were wounded. At least 170 Afghans were also killed in the attack, which was claimed by the ISIS-K terror group. The attack has touched off a new round of criticism over the botched pullout, with the Pentagon admitting Thursday that it is relying on the Taliban to provide security outside the airport via a system of checkpoints, where fighters have been assaulting and beating anyone who attempts to pass. https://nypost.com/2021/08/27/...campaign=android_nypThis message has been edited. Last edited by: Balzé Halzé, ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Mel Brooks, National Lampoon and Shakespeare working together couldn't have written a more comedic tragedy than what the fucking .gov has produced in Afghanistan right now. | |||
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Can this system not be hacked and corrupted? Or are they stand alone devices? Or? I know nothing about how they work | |||
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Not really. You're still going to have US Military personnel in that crowd checking people. Maybe not at the first or second checkpoint, but the closer to the gate, the more US Military. Who's manning the 1st or 2nd checkpoints? Do you really trust them? It's not like Hadji is going to be super vigilant, or Hadji isn't one of them. Reading the signs is important. Knowing your surroundings is important as well. ***Usually*** if you're going through an area, and there's people, women, children about, you're probably OK. You roll through that area tomorrow, and there's not a lot of people... Watch out!!! This situation looks different, because EVERYONE is trying to get out of Dodge! You're going to have a bunch of different people in the mix. Americans, Britts, Germans, Friendly Afgans, regular Afgans trying to get out... One asshole with a vest, a truck... Bad news. I still have a few friends (contracting) over there, sent the messages to them, haven't heard anything in return. But I'm not expecting to until they're somewhere save with a cold beer. My Lil Brother, on the other hand... He's still Active Duty. Thankfully he's at Pendleton and not in a position to be deployed any time soon... But his Marines are constantly going down range. Not a good situation. One of his neighbors on base is there now. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Think iPhone- But they can be "zapped" or erased remotely (a base unit here in the states, a base unit there in Afghanastan). It wipes out all information on it. You turn the device on, and all you get is a blank screen. However- seeing how this shit-show has been run from the start, I have little faith that someone actually pushed that button. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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https://theconservativetreehou...airport/#more-216002 Taliban Ask Qatar For Technical Assistance Running Kabul Airport Originally the plan of the Taliban was to have Turkey send the people they need to run the airport in Kabul. However, Turkish President Recep Erdogan told the Taliban he would willingly run the airport for them, but his 600 troops would need to remain as part of the airport security detachment. The Taliban said no, the Turkish military needed to leave along with all the NTO troops. As a consequence Turkey said until you change your mind, run your own airport. Here comes plan number two. Plan number two is the Taliban calling on their second ally in the region, Qatar. Now, remember, Qatar is home-base for the Muslim Brotherhood. Both Qatar and Turkey are supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood (Barack Obama supports them also). The Brotherhood is the political operation of al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, ISIS, ISIS-K and the Taliban. The Muslim Brotherhood is the covering fabric, and the various Islamic extremist groups are the splines of the extremist umbrella. | |||
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One brave Marine LTC with 17 years in service just told the truth and is being kicked out. 3 years away from retirement. Watch the video at link. He should be put in as Secretary of Defense. "I Demand Accountability": Marine Commander Fired For Viral Video Ripping 'Inept' Afghan War Decisions https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...ing-inept-afghan-war Though there are abundant examples of retired and former military officers publicly demanding accountability of the Biden administration over how the horribly bungled and now utterly tragic Afghan draw down and evacuation is going, it's incredibly rare and almost unheard of to see an active duty officer voice criticisms directed at top Pentagon brass on a public level. But one high ranking Marine officer has done just that in a now viral video. Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller until Friday was a sitting Marine infantry battalion commander in good standing, but late in the day it's been confirmed he was promptly relieved of his command over his statements. "I am willing to throw it all away to say to my senior leaders, 'I demand accountability,'" the Lieutenant colonel said in the Facebook video which already racked up millions of views across various platforms. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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US drone strike killed 'ISIS-K planner' in Afghanistan, Pentagon says Yep, and I don't believe a word of this, not for one minute. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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If that is true, then with these savages, it just racks up the risk to our troops on the ground now. Want to blast these folks? Great! Do it after we get out. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Took the words out of my mouth. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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https://www.dailywire.com/news...ile&utm_content=news Some former SF guys getting the job done! _________________________ "Ladies and Gentlemen - The Fit has hit the Shan!" | |||
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Funny how they never even released a name associated with the strike. Or Biden making a huge press conference live in front of the American people. I smell BS also. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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This has already been posted in this thread a few times. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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Why would anyone believe what this bunch says? | |||
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Even if it's true- Wow! What a big deal!!! Color me impressed! Come talk to the American Public when they drop a few hundred bombs on bad-guys, get every last American, Allies and friendly Afgan that helped us out of that place, take care of all the equipment they left behind. Then they can pull their heads out of their asses so we can pelt them with rotten garbage, or tar and feather a few of the bastards. One drop attack? Go choke on a syphllitic dick Joe... ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
As if you needed a freaking crystal ball to see the inevitable disaster of putting a turnip in the White House Clear enough now for you, genius? https://mobile.twitter.com/Sam.../1430995280703328256 ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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