^^^^^ Brandon Lee. Jon-Eric Hexum. ^^^^

Both were actors.
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The prosecution's case against Baldwin continues to build, and his defense continues to erode.

Another bid to have the case dismissed was turned down. His attorneys argued that the case should be dropped because Baldwin had no grounds to believe the gun contained a live round. Any member here knows that's not good enough. You have to check yourself.

A separate motion to dismiss is still pending, the defense arguing that the FBI damaged the gun in testing before the defense could examine it. So what?

There is now an eyewitness (a boom operator) who states that he saw Baldwin pull the trigger.

The trial is slated to begin July 9.

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Originally posted by OKCGene:
^^^^^ Brandon Lee. Jon-Eric Hexum. ^^^^

As a point of clarification, Brandon Lee was killed by "real" bullet that had unknowingly become lodged in the bore of a revolver due to a prior squib load. When later fired with a true blank, there was enough pressure to sufficiently discharge the lodged projectile striking the actor in the abdomen. This is somewhat different than with Jon-Eric Hexum who was killed by the expanding gases of a blank round. Much like the current Rust shooting, both of these earlier deaths could have been avoided by practicing safe handling protocols.

https://freebeacon.com/latest-...-of-woman-he-killed/

I am not familiar with this news website and how reliable it is/is not, but here is the story.

LATEST NEWS
Alec Baldwin Welches on Widower and Son of Woman He Killed

Hollywood darling is allegedly months late on a settlement to Halyna Hutchins’s family

June 26, 2024
Actor Alec Baldwin, currently facing involuntary manslaughter charges due to his 2021 fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of "Rust," is reportedly several months late on a payment for a civil suit filed by Hutchins’s widower and son, according to a recent New York Times report.

Hutchins’s lawyer, Brian Panish, told the New York Times that they might sue Baldwin, Rust Movie Productions, and related parties for a breach of agreement nearly three years after Baldwin fatally shot Hutchins with a replica firearm Baldwin alleges he did not know was loaded with live rounds.

The settlement, approved by a judge in June 2023, includes a series of annuities for Hutchins’s son, Andros Hutchins, who was nine years old when his mother was killed in 2021. Other details of the settlement have been sealed by the court, according to ABC News.

In January 2024, a New Mexico grand jury officially charged Baldwin with involuntary manslaughter, which Baldwin’s defense attorneys moved to dismiss in March. If convicted, Baldwin could face 18 months in prison. Baldwin pleaded not guilty to the criminal charge.

Since the October 2021 shooting, Baldwin has faced a collection of financial strains. Baldwin put his $29 million estate in the Hamptons on the market, along with another half-a-million-dollar lake house in upstate New York. In January, Baldwin cut the asking price for the Hamptons home by $10 million. Baldwin also welcomed his seventh child in 2022.

Baldwin and his wife, Hilaria, announced in early June their new family reality TV series "The Baldwins," which is set to air on TLC starting in 2025.

Forgive me, but I thought it was established that the gun was not a replica as the above article states. Interesting that Baldwin is late on payment. Perhaps that’s why he’s running that reality show in 2025.

The Pietta .45 Long Colt revolver used on set at the time of the shooting, that Baldwin had in his hand, is a fully functioning replica.

Strongly urge anyone interested in this case the check out The Law of Self Defense podcast. It is run by a 2A lawyer and has provided outstanding analysis.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
The Pietta .45 Long Colt revolver used on set at the time of the shooting, that Baldwin had in his hand, is a fully functioning replica.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding terms. What is a non functioning movie set gun called?

A prop

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Forgive me, but I thought it was established that the gun was not a replica as the above article states.

In the single action world, guns from Uberti, Cimarron, Pietta are commonly referred to as "replicas" of the Colt SAA, especially if they have the four-click action.

Baldwins involuntary manslaughter trial is set to begin next month after a firearm handled by the star and producer of the indie Western Rust was discharged on the film’s New Mexico set on Oct. 21, 2021, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and injuring director Joel Souza

Alec Baldwin Trains Novice With a Dark Past in ‘Clear Cut’ Trailer
Stephen Dorff, Tom Welling and Clive Standen also star in the Lionsgate thriller that is set for release next month.

Ryan Gajewski
JUNE 27, 2024 3:40PM PDT

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A separate motion to dismiss is still pending, the defense arguing that the FBI damaged the gun in testing before the defense could examine it. So what?

This motion was also denied today. See You In Court

Ol' Alec need to accept the reality that he's going to have to stand trial. It wouldn't surprise me, though, if his lawyers tried this again, but it should be obvious by now that the judge just isn't having it.

This week is showtime.

Pretrial motions today, jury selection tomorrow. Prosecution needs 2-3 days, and the defense will need up to 5. This should go to the jury by the end of next week.

Since the armorer was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and she didn't pull the trigger, I think Baldwin will have a particularly hard time not being convicted.

I think the armorer was remanded into immediate custody, and if we're lucky, he'll be too.

It's a bit of a mental hurdle, to me, that the armorer is convicted but the person who did the actual killing might be let off the hook.

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Since we despise Baldwin and his years of anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment remarks, as well as being part of anti-gun organizations, not to mention his overall reprehensible behavior as a member of the human race, we wish the worst for the guy. We want him to suffer and lose reputation, have his bank accounts drained, see him jailed.

Given all of that, it's easy to forget what all this is about. Alec Baldwin actually killed someone through his carelessness. He actually ended the life of an innocent person, took her away from her friends and family, robbed her of what likely would have been decades of living.

And he did so with a firearm. It would have been bad enough if he had killed someone with an automobile or something like that, but that he killed this poor woman with a handgun is truly karmic in nature.

So, no matter what the reason, we want him to be crushed and finally silenced, for any reason. Therefore, we might forget the act which has finally brought him to the place he now finds himself, and that what he did was horrible.

^^^^^^^^^and that everything he’s done since has been selfish.

His trial starts tomorrow on Court TV.

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So, no matter what the reason, we want him to be crushed and finally silenced, for any reason. Therefore, we might forget the act which has finally brought him to the place he now finds himself, and that what he did was horrible.

I don’t believe that he will be silenced, even if he is convicted and serves time. He’s a Hollywood insider and liberal darling, and I do not believe that much of Hollywood would shun him. Also, I think many in Hollywood are sympathetic to his plight. The hypocrisy of being anti-gun and using guns in their movies aside, they are mostly ignorant about guns and probably can not distinguish between a replica and a “prop”. They’re all props to them.

I have very little sympathy for Baldwin, but I do have some, and I don’t think this case is a slam dunk. I can see reasonable doubt. I haven’t followed closely enough to know what was covered in the safety briefings that he apparently ignored, but are actors generally taught to check to make sure a gun is empty and safe? Do they teach actors to aim away from people when firing blanks? If you’re expecting to fire a blank and there’s a live round in the chamber, how are you supposed to know that? The gun isn’t empty at that point.

I am no fan of Baldwin and wouldn’t lose any sleep if he’s incarcerated. But I do question the applicability of standard firearm safety rules and procedures on a movie set.

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Originally posted by honestlou:
I don’t believe that he will be silenced, even if he is convicted and serves time. He’s a Hollywood insider and liberal darling, and I do not believe that much of Hollywood would shun him. Also, I think many in Hollywood are sympathetic to his plight. The hypocrisy of being anti-gun and using guns in their movies aside, they are mostly ignorant about guns and probably can not distinguish between a replica and a “prop”. They’re all props to them.

Man, I swear.

Am I being dense today? What did I miss?