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| Leatherneck |
Yes, in a fully functional revolver the transfer bar should not stay in place. But Alec is claiming he did not have a correctly functioning revolver. I don’t think your post was incorrect, just perhaps worded wrong. You said “If the trigger's not pulled the transfer bar remains down” which is not correct. The transfer bar absolutely begins moving into position as the hammer is cocked and does not “stay down”. As the hammer is being cocked, even at about the halfway mark, the transfer bar is high enough to strike the firing pin. However if you release the hammer at that point (or any point without pulling the trigger) the transfer bar drops below the firing pin keeping the gun from firing. But like I said, that’s in a fully functioning revolver. I don’t know if it’s even possible that the gun could malfunction in a way that the transfer bar could stay in position without the trigger being pulled, but it does certainly get moved into a position to strike the firing pin without the trigger ever being touched. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Yup.
True: I did.
I don't know, either. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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I know Pieta makes SAA with and without a transfer bar. | |||
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| His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm.  |
 (I seriously doubt that happened.) | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head  |
Excellent video explanation of the SAA! Although I do wish he, or someone else, would include both the Transfer Bar and the safety features in a video explanation of the various SAA types. Thanks also for confirming that Pietta makes SAA actions with and without Transfer Bars, as I had read that in a Pietta owners manual also. | |||
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I was cringing a little bit watching that video as he was dropping the hammer from the half cock notch. That's a really bad idea for any gun you care about maintaining in good condition. SAAs should ALWAYS be drawn to full cock before the hammer is lowered to avoid a situation where the bolt remains in the upward position and drag against the the cylinder. This is how SAAs get scratched up with a turn line on the cylinder. This really has nothing to do with the incident, but it is good practice for anyone who shoots an original-type SAA. One thing that wasn't mentioned in the video, is that in the unlikely event the full cock notch on the hammer is broken, if the hammer is drawn fully back and release without engaging the trigger, it would fall back to the half cock notch and not fire. If the half cock notch was also broken, it would fall to the safety notch. So basically all three notches on the hammer would have to be broken in order for what Baldwin described to have happened. | |||
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| wishing we were congress |
in the video above that is posted by Greymann, Baldwin says he pulled "the hammer as far back as I could without cocking the actual gun" (starting about 35 sec into the video) | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
Thanks again for your explanations and comments. Excellent info. This video visually demonstrates the safety clicks and goes into what it would take to defeat the safeties on a SAA style gun. @ 6 minute video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HvmOpmcmwdo | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
Soooo... I hear ol' Alec deleted his Twitter account. | |||
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Squirming.... You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Alec is feeling the heat. Getting a little ornery again with reporters. A New York Post reporter confronted Alec Baldwin in NYC’s Upper East Side on Monday night. Baldwin’s wife, Hilaria, asked the New York Post’s Jon Levine to leave. “I ask you to leave,” Hilaria Baldwin said in her fake Spanish accent. “Did you really not pull the trigger? Did it malfunction?” Jon Levine asked Baldwin referring to the actor’s claims he never pulled the trigger when he fatally shot producer Halyna Hutchins on the set of ‘Rust.’ https://mobile.twitter.com/Lev.../1468037683633168391 ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Just think of how many times each day Baldwin will knee-jerk into wanting to post on Twitter, only to recall he nuked his own shit. | |||
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| The Whack-Job Whisperer  |
I was raised not to wish bad on people, BUT, in this case, I hope this is just the beginning of Alec Baldwins shit getting nuked. Regards 18DAI 7+1 Rounds of hope and change | |||
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| delicately calloused |
Consequences. Reap it. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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always with a hat or sunscreen |
Lots and lots of youtube vids appearing showing how a single action revolver can't fire itself and that ol' Alec is full of shiit! . LoLoLoLoLoLoL Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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Maybe we’ll get lucky and somebody will happen to be filming Alec when the shooting happened, that way we can see what his hand (or finger) was doing. It would be even luckier if it was HD footage, like the kind they put on movie screens | |||
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While I cant expect Hollywood types to become weapons experts, one would think that production companies and directors would require at least some modicum of formal training for the guns used in the movie so that they could be used safely. How simple would it be to train actors not to cock an SAA unless actual filming was taking place? You can rehearse all you want, just dont cock it. I have seen the videos of Cruise and Reeves training for their movie roles, but they must be the exceptions in H-Wood. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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| delicately calloused |
Shows how little this narcissist thinks of other’s intelligence. Like everyone is just going to accept what he says because he said it. Lol You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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