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Originally posted by mesabi:

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Because she has no idea what she is doing as an armorer. Reloading a case with a primer to make a blank is so simple my 12 yo could do it, it’s about as dangerous as going to the bathroom.

You may want to check her pedigree.... I've got no idea why she finds it scary to load blanks and I have zero confidence in the accuracy of reporting these days, but I'm pretty sure she grew up spending lots of time around movie or TV sets and handling single action revolvers.

I agree with you that we should take news reporting with a grain of salt and question their accuracy. I haven't listened to the actual referenced podcast to hear the context when she mentioned loading blanks to be the scariest part.

This could be a simple mistake by reporters' ignorance, in not understanding the difference between loading ammo/ blanks/ dummy rounds into a revolver's cylinder, and reloading or hand loading ammunition components together.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that her father took her shooting at some point, but we don't know the level of detailed instructions she received. Maybe he didn't even discuss safety rules with her. Maybe he handed her a loaded gun and just had her point it and pull the trigger... or maybe he gave her excellent expert instructions and she simply was too young or not interested to actually learn.

We do know that her resume includes 4 months of armorer's experience, that she only worked on one previous movie set as an armorer, that there were anecdotes of gun safety violations on that set, that the movie Rust was her first serving as head armorer, that she doubted her own experience and abilities as an armorer and had to turn to her Dad to teach her how to do her job...and we know that she was assigned a second set duty not related to armorer's duties, which likely taxed her time spent as head armorer and spread her even thinner.

this post shows sections of the affidavit for the search warrant for Baldwin's cell phone

source:

file:///C:/Users/15402/Documents/547623652-Search-Warrant-Alec-Baldwin-Cell-Phone.pdf

So once again Baldwin is claiming the gun just went off and then interestingly that although he would never point a gun at someone, when the gun went off someone was right in front of it.
He absolutely can not accept his part in this.

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Originally posted by sdy:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...ng-incident-n2600720

The sheriff's department wants to search Baldwin's phone for any evidence relating to the death of Halyna Hutchins.

"Affiant is requesting a warrant for the seizure and search of Alec Baldwins' [sic] cell phone to search for any evidence relating to the death investigation of Halyna Hutchins," the affidavit, obtained by Fox News Digital, said. "Affiant believes there may be evidence on the phone due to individuals using cellular phones during and/or after the commission of crime(s)."

"Such information, if it exists, may be material and relevant to this investigation. Affiant was also made aware there were several emails and text messages sent and received regarding the movie production 'Rust' in the course of interviews."


Baldwin told police he had corresponded with armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed via email discussing different types of guns to use during production. The actor had told police he requested a larger gun for filming, according to the search warrant.

Police found conversations regarding the "Rust" production on Hutchins' phone dating back to July 14, 2021, as well as photos taken in the Santa Fe area dating to September 7, 2021.

"Affiant believes gathering information prior to the film start date of Rust is essential for a full investigation," the affidavit said, adding that police requested Baldwin's phone but were told to get a search warrant.

Aaaaannnddd the're still waiting to get his phone. This is starting to smell like 2 day old fish.

TAOS, N.M. (Reuters) -New Mexico authorities on Thursday said they were working with police in New York state to obtain material from actor Alec Baldwin's cellphone relating to a probe into the fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the set of Western movie "Rust."

The Santa Fe Sheriff's Office and New Mexico First Judicial District Attorney's Office are "actively working" with the Suffolk County Sheriff's Department, New York, and Baldwin's lawyers to get any materials on the phone pertaining to their investigation, according to a press release.

The statement came three weeks after the sheriff's office received a search warrant to seize Baldwin's Apple iPhone to examine text messages, emails and other information stored on the device, according to court documents.

A spokesman for the Suffolk County Sheriff's Department and a lawyer for Baldwin did not respond to requests for comment.

Baldwin has a home in Amagansett, Suffolk County.

The "30 Rock" actor has said he was holding a revolver on the film set when it went off during rehearsal in October, firing a live round that killed Halyna Hutchins.

The actor said in a television interview he never pulled the trigger and denied responsibility for the shooting. He said he had no idea how a live round got onto the set.

The New Mexico prosecutor overseeing the case has said some people who handled guns on the set may face criminal charges over Hutchins' death.

A Santa Fe detective said she sought the search warrant for Baldwin's phone after she requested it on a voluntary basis and "was instructed to acquire a warrant," according to an affidavit.

The affidavit said suspects, victims and witnesses "often make and/or receive telephone calls and/or messages before, during and/or after the commission of crime(s). Such information, if it exists, may be material and relevant to this investigation."

Link to story
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"Such information, if it exists, may be material and relevant to this investigation. Affiant was also made aware there were several emails and text messages sent and received regarding the movie production 'Rust' in the course of interviews."

If it exists? It's all gone by now.

On an iPhone? Apple still have it.

two related short videos from Alec Baldwin

first this one at:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1477477947816779776

then this one:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1479889729466339328

"As soon as we go through this process then by all means we will comply"

He has the money to go into complete seclusion. Instead, he gets farther from reality by running his mouth with this ridiculous shit.

His cushy life of being royalty has disappeared and he can't handle it. You see the result.

It's hilarious that he realizes all those "nobodies" in flyover country are far better off than he, because they're not guilty of manslaughter.

Here's your fuckin' Splenda packet, shit head.

While searching for a more recent story I came across this November 2021 article that includes some additional details to the WSJ article posted by sigfreund on page 41. I'll post the more recent article after this one.

[Note: set photos and hyperlinks found at linked website article.]

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‘Rust’ Armorer’s Industry Veteran Father Hands Police Possible Pivotal Tip On Origin Of Live Rounds; Hannah Gutierrez-Reed Admits She Didn’t Check Gun “Too Much”

UPDATED with statement from Hannah Gutierrez-Reed)

Santa Fe police may be a step closer to discovering where the live round fired last month by Alec Baldwin that killed Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins came from.

In a fourth search warrant approved by a New Mexico judge, detectives on Tuesday revealed that armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed’s father Thell Reed reached out to them November 15 to tell them about possibly hundreds of rounds of live ammunition that Rust “armorer mentor” Seth Kenney took from him earlier this year. Kenney told the elder Reed to “write it off” when the veteran armorer and stuntman repeatedly inquired about the rounds.

In two conversations with the Sheriff’s Office, the elder Reed revealed that he brought the “approximately 200-300 rounds in the can …described the can to be green in color and looked like a military ammo can” to a “firearms range” to help train actors on another production with Kenney.

Thell Reed told the police earlier this month “this ammunition may match the ammunition found on the set of Rust.”

Seen as one of the best in the business, the elder Reed has been a weapons consultant and armorer on films including Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Cowboys & Aliens, 3:10 to Yuma, Grindhouse and many others over the decades. That experience is among the reasons the police are acting on his tip.

“Affiant is requesting a search warrant be approved for the business of PDQ Arm & Prop, LLC, in attempt to search for any items of evidentiary value that will help with the ongoing investigation in relation to the death of Halyna Hutching (sic) on the set of Rust, filmed at the Bonanza Creek Ranch,” requests the affidavit from Detective Alexandria Hancock (read it here).

The search warrant permits detectives to search the the Albuquerque-based business and seize property deemed relevant to the investigation. The company, located in a strip mall, is owned by Kenney.

According to Gutierrez-Reed, as stated in today’s warrant, Kenney “supplied the ammunition and weapons to the set of Rust.” The document goes on to say that “Affiant learned the firearms and ammunition were picked up either from Hannah or Sarah (Zachery, prop master) in Albuquerque, New Mexico, at PDQ Arm and Prop, LLC.

Police spoke with Zachery in the immediate aftermath of the October 21 shooting, when the crew member said that “ammunition for Rust was provided from various sources, to include Seth Kenney, some Hannah brought from a previous production, and extra rounds from an individual identified as ‘Billy Ray.’”

Previous search warrants executed by the police at the Bonanza Creek Ranch have found a number of weapons and, according to Sheriff Adan Mendoza, “500 rounds of ammunition … a mix of blanks, dummy rounds and what we are suspecting are live rounds.”

There are no details in today’s documents about who “Billy Ray” is. However, there is an growing amount of info on Kenney, who was brought on board the $7 million indie Western to back up the relative newbie Gutierrez-Reed

Named as a defendant in the two lawsuits that have already been filed in the Rust tragedy, weapons specialist Kenney has emerged as a pivotal figure in the cops’ probe, along with armorer Gutierrez-Reed and First Assistant Director Dave Halls. Like star-producer Baldwin, both Gutierrez-Reed and Halls have hired defense lawyers as the move towards the courts speeds up.

In an October 29 “call” with police, Kenney floated a theory of “reloaded ammunition” that “a friend” had given him a few years ago. The ammo in question had a particular logo on it of “a star, an arch, and then another star” matching that of big dealer Starline Brass. “He described how the company only sells components of ammunition, and not live ammunition, therefore it had to be a reloaded round,” the seven-page warrant notes.

The latest warrant also notes more details form Santa Fe Sheriff’s Office sit-downs with Gutierrez-Reed following the fatal shooting at the Bonanza Creek Ranch location more than five weeks ago. Specifically, while laying out how the guns on set were handled and stored that terrible day, Gutierrez-Reed “stated the guns were checked on set, however she ‘didn’t really check it too much’ (the firearm), due to it being locked up at lunch.”

Kept out of the church location frequently due to what she told detectives were “COVID precautions,” the armorer previously laid out how she handed the 1880s-era gun to Halls, who then took it inside and gave it to Baldwin after exclaiming “cold gun.” Practicing a “quick draw” move during rehearsal, Baldwin pulled the trigger, killing Hutchins and injuring director Joel Souza.

Along with several members of the camera crew resigning in writing over financial and safety concerns mere hours before the shooting, there were at least two other incidents of weapons mistakenly discharging on the Rust set before the fatal shooting, as props assistant/armorer Gutierrez-Reed and others have confirmed.

Halls has admitted to the Sheriff’s Office that he did not properly check the weapon in question before giving it to Baldwin. As Deadline reported on October 25, Halls was fired from a previous film because of gun safety lapses and was not rehired over personal misconduct complaints on a 2019 Blumhouse TV project.

Gutierrez-Reed’s lawyer have been talking up a “sabotage” theory in the media to explain the shooting that took Hutchins’ life. Discredited by the Santa Fe DA, the theory is based on the premise that something underhanded may have been connected to the mass camera crew exit earlier that day.

Today, the armorer’s lawyer released a statement from their client on the latest twist in the investigation with her father’s tip and the new search warrant:

The Sheriff’s Office has taken a huge step forward today to unearth the full truth of who put the live rounds on the Rust set, by executing a search warrant on PDQ Arm & Prop, owned by Armorer-Mentor, Seth Kenney. We trust that the FBI will now compare and analyze the “live rounds” seized from the set to evidence seized in the search warrant to conclusively determine where the live rounds came from. In keeping with the early findings and concerns of our own internal investigation, which were echoed by a detailed report in the LA Times, we also hope that there will be further investigation into the important detail about a new ammunition box seen on set the day of the shooting. The questions of who introduced the live rounds onto the set and why are the central questions in the case. Today’s warrant is a major step towards answering those questions and we commend the Sheriff’s Office and their lead investigator on their continuing tireless work to find the truth.


As the lawsuits pile up, the Hutchins family has retained its own attorneys (who specialize in wrongful death) and the police probe continues. No one has been arrested or charged over the Rust shooting.

Among the details, the set armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed is now suing the ammo company that supplied ammo to the set...and is also owned by the man who was brought onto the project to mentor her.

[Note: set photo and hyperlinks found at linked website article.]

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‘Rust’ Armorer Sues Ammo Supplier — Claims Company Provided Live Rounds In Fatal Shooting

Kimberlee Speakman
Forbes staff

Business

Updated Jan 12, 2022, 09:41pm EST

The armorer for Alec Baldwin’s movie Rust — Hannah Gutierrez-Reed — filed a lawsuit Wednesday against the company that supplied weapons and ammunition to the film’s set, alleging it provided the film with both dummy and live rounds, as an investigation continues into the fatal on-set shooting of Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

KEY FACTS

• In a complaint filed in New Mexico state court, Gutierrez-Reed accused PDQ Media Arms and Prop LLC. and its owner Seth Kenney of violating New Mexico’s unfair trade practices law, creating a dangerous condition on set and breach of contract.

• Gutierrez-Reed alleges PDQ, the film’s primary supplier of ammunition, provided the set with ammunition boxes that contained both dummy and live rounds.

• The day of Hutchins’ shooting, Gutierrez-Reed said she loaded Baldwin’s gun with six bullets: Five had holes indicating they were dummy rounds, and a sixth came from a new box that arrived in the prop truck that morning.

• The new box of rounds “jingled” when Gutierrez-Reed shook it, signalling it contained dummy ammunition, according to the complaint.

• After Hutchins was shot, the complaint alleges investigators found seven live rounds in an ammunition box, on an ammunition cart and in bandoliers that had a Starline Brass logo with “nickel” primers.

• Kenney has denied that he provided live ammunition to the Rust film set.

• Forbes has reached out to PDQ Media Arms and Prop LLC. for comment.


KEY BACKGROUND

During the filming of Rust in October, a live round from a prop gun Baldwin was holding killed Hutchins and injured the film’s director, igniting a months-long investigation. The Santa Fe Sheriff's Office confirmed it found live rounds on the film set and was investigating how they got there, and in November, the sheriff’s department issued a search warrant for PDQ after Kenney and Gutierrez-Reed’s father – himself a well-known Hollywood armorer – indicated in interviews that a possible ammunition mixup occurred. Kenney told investigators that he provided Rust with dummy ammunition from a brand called Starline Brass, and he had also received “reloaded ammunition” with a similar logo from a friend, while Gutierrez-Reed’s father claimed that Kenney may have mixed up caliber .45 live rounds – the kind used in Baldwin’s gun – from a previous shoot. Gutierrez-Reed’s attorneys have previously suggested the set was “sabotaged,” but Santa Fe County District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies has refuted these claims, saying investigators haven’t found proof that live ammunition was placed on the set deliberately.

Oh, my. They're pulling out all the stops, huh? Yeah, good luck with that. Snowball/Hell

Yeah, I showed those two recent Baldwin videos to my wife, who's so very sweet and who is always willing to give people the benefit of the doubt.

When I showed her the "Splenda packet" video and asked her what she thought, she said it not only sounds like a lie, it sounds like a bad lie. When I showed her the other video, she just shook her head and said "He needs help."

Baldwins make believe world is crashing down around him.

His cheese has slipped off his cracker.

I can't wait for the next video chapter of Alec is Innocent. Baldwin should see if David Lynch is available to direct.

This morning I read the ABC version. Sounds like a 'lawsuit' which has no business in a court of law. Instead, it seems to highlight the amateur production skills of AB&Company.

“The introduction of live rounds onto the set, which no one anticipated, combined with the rushed and chaotic atmosphere, created a perfect storm for a safety incident," the lawsuit states.

https://abcnews.go.com/Enterta...st-shooting-82236741

Maybe Jusse Smolet can play Alec in a movie?

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early today:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movi...olice-say/ar-AASKDu8

New Mexico police claim that Alec Baldwin and his legal team still have not handed over the actor’s cellphone in connection with the ongoing “Rust” investigation after a warrant was issued last month.

The Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office issued a statement Thursday saying that Baldwin’s attorney acknowledged receipt of the warrant and added that on December 20 following the issuing of the warrant, the Santa Fe District Attorney’s office was in negotiations with Baldwin’s attorney to obtain consent to retrieve the phone and its contents. However, they say to date the phone still “has not been turned over to authorities.”

A rep for Baldwin and his attorney did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

then: (an hour ago)


A lawyer for Alec Baldwin on Thursday said the actor would hand over his cellphone as part of a probe into the fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the movie set of Western "Rust," but police in New Mexico said they had yet to receive the device.

Baldwin's lawyer, Aaron Dyer, said he had reached a deal with New Mexico authorities to turn in the phone after steps were taken to protect the actor's privacy regarding matters unrelated to the "Rust" investigation.

"Mr. Baldwin’s phone is being turned over this week for review," Dyer said in a statement. "Mr. Baldwin has continued to cooperate with the authorities, and any suggestion to the contrary is simply untrue."

The comments followed a Thursday news release from the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office saying Baldwin had not complied with a search warrant requesting he hand over the phone and that a New Mexico prosecutor was now working with the actor's lawyer to get it.

"To date, the cell phone has not been turned over to authorities," the news release said.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news...ng-lawyer/ar-AASKONM

Wonder what ol Alec is hiding on his phone? Affairs, drug deals, kiddy porn?

lots of smoke in the lawsuit by Gutierrez-Reed against Seth Kenney, the man who provided the prop ammunition used by the production team

https://www.foxnews.com/entert...uit-prop-distributor

Gutierrez-Reed filed the lawsuit Wednesday in New Mexico, citing the state's unfair-trade-practices law. She also sued Kenney for breach of contract, creation of a dangerous condition and deceptive product labels, among other things, according to the court filing obtained by Fox News Digital.

Gutierrez-Reed requested a six-person jury and is seeking compensatory damages, punitive damages, attorney's fees and more.

Gutierrez-Reed's lawsuit accuses Kenney's prop company, PDQ Arm & Prop, of providing a mix of dummy and live rounds to the set, creating a "dangerous condition."

"Defendants distributed boxes of ammunition purporting to contain dummy rounds, but which contained a mix of dummy and live ammunition to the Rust production," the lawsuit states

"Hannah and the entire Rust movie crew relied on the Defendants’ misrepresentation that they provided only dummy ammunition."

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Gutierrez-Reed claims in the lawsuit that prop master Sarah Zachry's accidental/negligent discharge on Oct. 16 led to a fallout between herself and Kenney.

The armorer claims that she confronted Zachry about the discharge and attempted to report it to production. She alleges that she and Kenney had a "heated text exchange" and that the props distributor took Zachry's side. According to Gutierrez-Reed, Kenney allegedly seemed to want to downplay the "security incident."

Gutierrez-Reed goes on to claim that days later Kenney contacted a police officer in Arizona, who was a friend known through Gutierrez-Reed's dad, veteran armorer Thell Reed, and accused Gutierrez-Reed of using derogatory language toward Zachry "three times."

In the lawsuit, Gutierrez-Reed describes a full box of ammunition appearing on the set of "Rust" the morning of Oct. 21.

Gutierrez-Reed claims she found the box on top of one of her bags located in the prop truck, but claims she never had seen the box before that morning. The armorer says she asked Zachry and prop assistant Nicole Montoya where the full box came from, but did not receive an answer.

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"It was a busy morning and Hannah was happy that they had a full box of dummy rounds to work with and because Sarah as prop manager had brought dummy boxes to the set in the past as part of her duties, Hannah didn't think any more of it at the time," the lawsuit read.

According to Gutierrez-Reed, the scene Baldwin was practicing was not a scheduled rehearsal, and instead, assistant director Dave Halls had been "sitting in" with the gun. In the lawsuit, the armorer claims a gun wasn't supposed to be used at all during that time.

sitting in w the gun, but the gun wasn't supposed to be used ?

Gutierrez-Reed was not allowed in the church at the time due to COVID-19 protocols. Throughout filming, video monitors had been placed outside of buildings being used so crew members could see what was going on. On the day of the shooting, the monitors weren't working, according to the lawsuit.

Gutierrez-Reed claimed if she had been notified that a gun was being used, she could have instructed Baldwin on safe gun practice while cross-drawing a weapon.

"Hannah would never have let Baldwin point the weapon at Halyna, as part of standard safe gun practices," the lawsuit said.

Following the shooting and during the ensuing police investigation, Kenney attempted to get Gutierrez-Reed to shift the blame onto assistant director Halls, the lawsuit claims.

In text messages exchanged with Gutierrez-Reed and included in the lawsuit, Kenney allegedly told the armorer that she "got rolled" by Halls. According to the lawsuit, Kenney allegedly told Gutierrez-Reed he would "have her back" if she shifted the blame to Halls.

Seth Kenney and a rep for Sarah Zachry did not immediately respond to Fox News' request for comment.

lots of folks ducking for cover

https://nypost.com/2022/01/14/...olice-in-rust-probe/

Alec Baldwin turned his cellphone over to Long Island police Friday — nearly a month after authorities secured a warrant for the device following a fatal shooting on the set of the movie “Rust,” according to officials.

The 63-year-old actor surrendered his phone — which is believed to contain information about the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins in October — to the Suffolk County Sheriff’s Office Friday morning, a spokesman for the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office told The Post.

“They will conduct the extraction of the data, and then hand the phone over to us,” said Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office public information officer Juan Rios.

But not everything on the star’s phone will be up for grabs during the probe, Rios said.

“There will be some exempt information that’s not considered pertinent to the investigation, such as attorney-client privilege material, communications between Mr. Baldwin and his attorney as well as spousal privileged information.”