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My liver is OK, but not type II diabetes.


You have cirrhosis. Your liver is most certainly NOT ok, dude. Ok, and your liver should be in the same sentence. They're not even in the same time zone. Cirrhosis mean liver bad, not liver ok.


Cirrhosis means repeated scarring of the liver. A liver biopsy showed that it was tizandine not alcohol. I took tizandine in lieu of tramadol because it made me sleep. The out-of-network GI doctor who has sent me to collections said that it doesn't matter what caused the cirrhosis, it's cirrhosis. The doctor whom I trust but can't talk to said that I was doing well. I trust him.

I haven't mentioned this before, but my legs do not work for unknown reasons. When I was in Vancouver, I was confined to bed. That was just horrible. (Legal concerns is what I was told.)

My octogenarian step-father flew my mother to PDX, but they got lost in downtown Portland during an insurrection. I told him to drive to the ER in Vancouver, and so I checked out of the hospital early just to protect him. My step-father likely has bladder cancer, but can't see a urologist. I'm worried about that. Certainly, I can't be taken to Vancouver again because I have no way back home.
 
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Cirrhosis means repeated scarring of the liver.


I know exactly what cirrhosis is. I don't think you do.

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A liver biopsy showed that it was tizandine not alcohol.


That drug can cause liver damage, yes. So can drinking from the age of 15 to fall asleep. Daily drinking of up to twenty (and likely much more) drinks a day can cause liver damage. I was popping ibuprofen like candy while I was fall-down drinking all during my twenties, but I don't go around saying it was the ibuprofen.

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I took tizandine in lieu of tramadol because it made me sleep.


I'd bet cash money you took the tizandine with alcohol like you're doing now with the xanax.

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The out-of-network GI doctor who has sent me to collections said that it doesn't matter what caused the cirrhosis, it's cirrhosis. The doctor whom I trust but can't talk to said that I was doing well. I trust him.


My doctor tells me I'm doing great... for having cirrhosis. It doesn't mean I don't have cirrhosis and can't fucking drink with a rotten liver. Did you tell him you're putting away a Bota box a day when he said it doesn't matter what caused the cirrhosis? Your doctor did not tell you your liver is ok. He didn't tell you your liver is ok and you can drink that much a day, pop xanax, and take insulin to counteract the blood sugar spikes from the drinking. Your doctor did not tell you that shit, sir.

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I haven't mentioned this before, but my legs do not work for unknown reasons.



And you get alcohol how, exactly? What else haven't you mentioned as a reason you can't get sober?

Don't take my frustration to mean I will not help you get the help you need. What I am not doing is co-signing on your bullshit, no matter how much you believe it.


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The offer still stands, rh.
Say you want it, and are willing to go to any length to get it.
 
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"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
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SIGnified, can you explain the significance or meaning of the picture you have reposted? Sorry if I am being dense, but I do not get it.
 
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He likes Jim Brown. In particular the movie, 100 rifles or perhaps his history of domestic violence or his career on the football field. I have no clue either.
 
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Watch the Richard prior video



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Watch the Richard prior video


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Rh, if you need to email feel free, a lot of us will listen.


I need to speak with someone on SIGforum and just emailed you since you offered to let me, but as I said, there's no need for commitment. But a phone call from would be nice.
 
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But a phone call from would be nice.


Don't waste your time, Spunk. Don't anybody waste their time. You cannot help this man. I can help get this man headed to where he can get help. That should be the only thing on the table for him. Not attention to this thread. Not replies to emails. Not phone calls listening to his confused and disjointed rambling. Those things will not help him. Best thing you can do is send that email right to the fucking trash.


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Just read through this entire thread, and it has left a rather deep pit in my stomach... mostly because I see myself in it, but thankfully nowhere as bad at this time!

I don't take downers/sedatives, but I do drink way too much alcohol (bourbon... neat), and I'm diabetic (Type II but well-controlled with Metformin if I quit the drinking).

Why do I drink? I started heavy drinking about 2 or 3 years ago because it was the only thing that made me sleep. I have chronic insomnia and have done the sleep clinic thing, plus tried all of the Rx sleep meds available. The only one that worked also caused me to do very dangerous and destructive things in my sleep without remembering it the next day!

As an alternative (and not a good one), I discovered that around 375mL (half of a "fifth" for those not familiar with hard liquor measurements) of Kentucky straight bourbon would knock me out for the night, and most of the time without a hangover the next day. However, the more I've done this, the more I need to drink to knock me out, and therein lies a huge problem! More then a few times I've consumed an entire "fifth" in under 24 hours to get some sleep. Other times when I've tried to lay off the stuff for a few days, I've had the common withdrawal symptoms; most recently shortness of breath and heart palpitations which earned an ambulance ride to the nearest ER.

I used to like the taste of bourbon; now I hate it. I hate the drinking and keep telling myself I'm not gonna do it again, but within 2 or 3 days I'm back at it because I feel so desperate for sleep! It's a vicious cycle that must be broken, and after reading through this thread it has now dawned on me that I cannot stop it; God must do it for me, and for that to happen I must turn this over to Him! I can see contacting my local AA in the very near future. I would do it right now but I'm recovering from hip replacement surgery and just now getting started on PT to facilitate full recovery. No doubt I will take some heat for using that excuse to put it off, but I haven't been able to walk normally for close to 2 years, and now I'm well on the way to having that issue resolved... and will not interfere with the process at this moment! While I realize I have a problem and need help, I also feel that if I can not drink for a few days at a time while recovering from the surgery that I have my priorities in order (dear God I hope I do!!!)

Anyway, I will continue to follow this thread, and I pray that "rh" follows through with the offers for help!

May God bless any and all who are in this same struggle!!!


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Just read through this entire thread, and it has left a rather deep pit in my stomach... mostly because I see myself in it, but thankfully nowhere as bad at this time!

I don't take downers/sedatives, but I do drink way too much alcohol (bourbon... neat), and I'm diabetic (Type II but well-controlled with Metformin if I quit the drinking).

Why do I drink? I started heavy drinking about 2 or 3 years ago because it was the only thing that made me sleep. I have chronic insomnia and have done the sleep clinic thing, plus tried all of the Rx sleep meds available. The only one that worked also caused me to do very dangerous and destructive things in my sleep without remembering it the next day!

As an alternative (and not a good one), I discovered that around 375mL (half of a "fifth" for those not familiar with hard liquor measurements) of Kentucky straight bourbon would knock me out for the night, and most of the time without a hangover the next day. However, the more I've done this, the more I need to drink to knock me out, and therein lies a huge problem! More then a few times I've consumed an entire "fifth" in under 24 hours to get some sleep. Other times when I've tried to lay off the stuff for a few days, I've had the common withdrawal symptoms; most recently shortness of breath and heart palpitations which earned an ambulance ride to the nearest ER.

I used to like the taste of bourbon; now I hate it. I hate the drinking and keep telling myself I'm not gonna do it again, but within 2 or 3 days I'm back at it because I feel so desperate for sleep! It's a vicious cycle that must be broken, and after reading through this thread it has now dawned on me that I cannot stop it; God must do it for me, and for that to happen I must turn this over to Him! I can see contacting my local AA in the very near future. I would do it right now but I'm recovering from hip replacement surgery and just now getting started on PT to facilitate full recovery. No doubt I will take some heat for using that excuse to put it off, but I haven't been able to walk normally for close to 2 years, and now I'm well on the way to having that issue resolved... and will not interfere with the process at this moment! While I realize I have a problem and need help, I also feel that if I can not drink for a few days at a time while recovering from the surgery that I have my priorities in order (dear God I hope I do!!!)

Anyway, I will continue to follow this thread, and I pray that "rh" follows through with the offers for help!

May God bless any and all who are in this same struggle!!!


Do you wish to stop drinking?

Are you sick and tired of being sick and tired?

Lots of help for those who have a desire. This thread is full of love as evidence.





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
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Do you wish to stop drinking?

Are you sick and tired of being sick and tired?

Lots of help for those who have a desire. This thread is full of love as evidence.

Very much sick and tired of it all! Gotta figure out how to tackle the insomnia issue and I’m pretty sure that most of the “desire” to drink will go away… but I could be deceiving myself also. Time will tell!


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Do you wish to stop drinking?

Are you sick and tired of being sick and tired?

Lots of help for those who have a desire. This thread is full of love as evidence.


Very much sick and tired of it all! Gotta figure out how to tackle the insomnia issue and I’m pretty sure that most of the “desire” to drink will go away… but I could be deceiving myself also. Time will tell!


You will not die from a lack of sleep. I promise. This is a very common issue.

Have you ever tried going 30 days without alcohol? If you can’t accomplish that, I’d suggest you are correct in looking deeply at yourself.

Since you mention AA, one very easy thing to do is call the AA central office in your town/area.

Just take a quick phone call with them and someone who has been in similar shoes may offer to take a call, or take you to a meeting.

EDIT: Quick google search

Telephone: 256-885-0323.
https://aahuntsvilleal.com › central-o...
Central Office - AA Area 1 – District 20





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The big lie, one of them is under its influence you will reason it’s ok to wait to get help. The reasons are legion but the results are the same. The old “monkey” on your back says it’s ok this time, wait a short while. Meanwhile it’s a slow suicidal, usually very dramatic ending. A lot of alcoholics destroy friendships and families if left to their mentally defective thinking. King alcohol is the ruler of all it survey’s thru it’s lies. Hope you and those under the influence have the experience of sobriety and the kind of life you deal with, not hide from. All I have said is from one who has felt the pain alcoholism causes and the issuing shame and degradation only another drunk has experienced. A recovering alcoholic can help you to a life you cannot even imagine. As they used to say about sobriety. “Hang on tight it’s a e ticket ride!”
God loves you and will do his part if you do yours.
 
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Consider a sleep study done by a pulmomologist who specializes in sleep disorders.
 
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Consider a sleep study done by a pulmomologist who specializes in sleep disorders.



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First things first.





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First things first.

My first priority at this moment is getting this hip healed up, and then the other hip will be done in June. During that time I fully intend to tackle this alcohol problem!

As SIGnified mentioned, I cannot go 30 days without drinking; the reason being I get too desperate for sleep after 3 or so days without that I give in and buy another bottle. I realize this is not a valid reason, but that's the excuse (reason?) that I've used for the past 2 or so years.

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Best of luck Bill.
At least you’re being honest with yourself.

Make the call and you will be amazed at how your life gets so much better. It’s a promise.





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