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Straight from the time stamps of the videos
The time stamp on the Capitol Police video indicates East Coast time, not West Coast. The time stamp on the police officer's body-worn cameras indicate Greenwich Mean Time, not West Coast time. Did you take this into account?
 
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Now is a good time to let this go.


Yes and done, Sorry for the short fuse.


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Straight from the time stamps of the videos
The time stamp on the Capitol Police video indicates East Coast time, not West Coast. The time stamp on the police officer's body-worn cameras indicate Greenwich Mean Time, not West Coast time. Did you take this into account?

As I said, I’m only going on the video timestamps. I’m also left wondering who the mystery guest was in his car when he crashed drunk in Napa.


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I'm pretty sure you'd have a hard time finding anybody, even in CA, who likes the Pelosi's. He's a crook, and reportedly a drunk. She's a crook, and a career politician. But after the release of the video, it appears that this wasn't a gay get together gone wrong, like some, (me included), thought.

So, if we disregard everything except what the surveillance, and police body cam tapes actually show happened that night; it comes down to this:
An illegal immigrant nut job, (He overstayed his visa by 20-some years), breaks into a home and beats an old man nearly to death with a hammer. That ain't right.


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As I said, I’m only going on the video timestamps.
Are you saying you think the guy was in Pelosi's house for four and a half hours?
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I’m also left wondering who the mystery guest was in his car when he crashed drunk in Napa.
Why? What does that have to do with this incident?
 
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I’m also left wondering who the mystery guest was in his car when he crashed drunk in Napa.
Why? What does that have to do with this incident?[/QUOTE]

I think maybe he was suggesting the passenger in the car was DePape which of course there's no evidence of and is just wild ass speculation.



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This is what leftists do. They ignore facts and evidence and they attempt to reshape reality to create an outcome they desire. In this forum, such behavior is unacceptable.


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I’m also left wondering who the mystery guest was in his car when he crashed drunk in Napa.
Why? What does that have to do with this incident?


I think maybe he was suggesting the passenger in the car was DePape which of course there's no evidence of and is just wild ass speculation.


No clue and almost don't care about who was in the car with him. But seeing how California politics and China's attemps to influence our politics keep intersecting there, maybe just check the box that Mr Pelosi wasn't being wined and dined by China.


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If I got into a wreck while driving while intoxicated and had someone in the car with me, should that person’s identity and reasons for being with me become public records? If they didn’t, I’m curious who among us would assume that because it wasn’t revealed that there was a grand conspiracy to hide sigfreund’s nefarious activities behind the cloak of official misconduct.

When I was still a teenager and first learned about the atrocities the Nazis committed in their death camps, I opined out loud that enough psychopaths or just those who would simply follow any orders given them and that would willingly carry out such programs in the US could be found in any large American city. I have no doubt that it would be even easier to find more than enough people to conduct a totalitarian-type domestic surveillance program.

It’s too bad the East German Stasi is long defunct. Some people would evidently fit right into their operational philosophy of wanting to know everything everyone is doing all the time, and why. Perhaps the Russian FSB is hiring. “But wait: He’s a public figure and we have a right to know such things.” Roll Eyes

As I said before, if we’re willing to deny other people their basic human rights, and that includes the right to privacy, then we will have nothing to complain about when our own rights are eliminated.




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It’s too bad the East German Stasi is long defunct.

They're still going strong. They just changed their name to "FBI".


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That’s what makes the thing so strange and IMO is what fueled all the conspiracy talk. He’s from Berkeley, CA?

Berkeley is like Ground Zero of insane leftism, I didn’t think a guy sounding like that would be from there but he was.

You're not wrong, college campuses and their surrounding communities, are well known havens for the socially and mentally maladjusted, most of which are very left or hold some esoteric political or, social theory. The area has a lot of inexpensive and unconventional rental units, cheap food eateries, lots of social opportunities allow the off-kilter types to gather and Berkeley & Oakland offers all sorts of free mental health and various other services. We have a few members that are LEO's in this area, they can provide better perspective on the state of things.

DePape lived for a time at a well known household full of counter-culture, anti-convention activists who would protest at the Berkeley City Council; that city council is about as Left as it gets in the US for a sizable metro area. People like him and those he associated with are most definitely 5150; anyone who's dealt with the mentally ill, they latch onto a cause, thought or, idea, and go deeply down the rabbit hole formulating their own tangents and ideas, sometime even acting on them...doesn't matter the political leanings.
 
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Can only imagine how light a sentence he would've received had this been a local case and not a federal one.

David DePape sentenced to 30 years in hammer attack on ex-Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband
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The man convicted of attempting to kidnap then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and attacking her husband with a hammer was sentenced to 30 years in prison Friday morning.

David DePape, 44, was given the 30-year sentence by Judge Jacqueline Scott Corley in a federal courtroom in San Francisco. Prosecutors had asked for a 40-year prison term. Dressed in an orange jumpsuit, DePape stood silently as the sentence was handed down.

DePape's defense argued for a shorter sentence of 14 years, noting that their client did not have a prior criminal history and the remorse he expressed. The judge countered that DePape remained dangerous given his statements that he would attack his other targets, despite apologizing to his victims.

Scott Corley also said DePape's actions created an unprecedented threat forcing all public officials to weigh the risk their job might place on family members.

"We will never know everything we have lost because of this crime," she said.

DePape was given credit for time served for the 18 months he has been in custody. The judge imposed the maximum for each count he faced -- 20 years for one count, 30 years for the second count -- that will run concurrently.

DePape was tried late last year for attempted kidnapping of a federal official and assault on the immediate family member of a federal official. Jurors convicted him on both counts on Nov. 16, 2023.

DePape's early morning break-in at the Pelosi home in October 2022 resulted in federal as well as state charges. A second trial in state court will start in the coming weeks.

In a letter to the court, Nancy Pelosi asked the judge for a "very long" sentence for DePape, saying the attack "[f]illed me with great fear and deep pain." Meanwhile, Paul Pelosi's victim statement to the judge noted that he is still suffering dizziness, headaches, balance problems, nerve pain and walking challenges from the health impacts of the vicious attack.

Christine Pelosi read the victim impact statements on behalf of her parents. Her tone was authoritative and intentional, bringing color to the statements.

During tearful testimony in his federal trial, DePape admitted that he broke into the Pelosis' San Francisco home Oct. 28, 2022, intending to hold the speaker hostage and "break her kneecaps" if she lied to him. He also acknowledged bludgeoning Paul Pelosi with a hammer after police showed up, saying his plan to end what he viewed as government corruption was unraveling.

The attack on Paul Pelosi, who was 82 at the time, was captured on police body camera video just days before the midterm elections and sent shockwaves through the political world.

Defense attorneys argued DePape was motivated by his political beliefs, not because he wanted to interfere with the speaker's official duties as a member of Congress, making the charges against him invalid.

One of his attorneys, Angela Chuang, said during closing arguments that DePape was caught up in conspiracy theories.

During the trial DePape, a Canadian who moved to the U.S. more than 20 years ago, testified he believed news outlets repeatedly lied about former President Donald Trump. In rants posted on a blog and online forum that were taken down after his arrest, DePape described a far-fetched plan to single-handedly "take down" a series of high-profile figures. The plan echoed the baseless, right-wing conspiracy theory QAnon, which claims that a cabal of devil-worshipping pedophiles runs the U.S. government.

DePape also told jurors he had planned to wear an inflatable unicorn costume and record his interrogation of the Democratic speaker, who was not at the home at the time of the attack, to upload it online.

Prosecutors said he had rope and zip ties with him, and detectives found body cameras, a computer and a tablet.

Paul Pelosi also testified at the trial, recalling how he was awakened by a large man bursting into the bedroom and asking, "Where's Nancy?" He said when he responded that his wife was in Washington, DePape said he would tie him up while they waited for her.

"It was a tremendous sense of shock to recognize that somebody had broken into the house, and looking at him and looking at the hammer and the ties, I recognized that I was in serious danger, so I tried to stay as calm as possible," Pelosi told jurors.

Pelosi suffered two head wounds in the attack, including a skull fracture that was mended with plates and screws he will have for the rest of his life. His right arm and hand also were injured.

DePape is also charged in state court with assault with a deadly weapon, elder abuse, residential burglary and other felonies. Jury selection in that trial is expected to start May 22.
 
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You can get serious time for attacking the ruling class.
 
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Pelosi is going to have cognitive problems and balance issues for the remainder of his life. No amount of prison time is going to compensate for that.
 
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Pelosi is going to have cognitive problems and balance issues for the remainder of his life.


And then there's also the damage from the hammer attack as well...
 
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Pelosi is going to have cognitive problems and balance issues for the remainder of his life. No amount of prison time is going to compensate for that.

That may be true, but people often get shorter sentences than that for Murder!


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True, but apparently that does not fit with California sentencing. I am sure Pelosi has PTSD which they appear to be ignoring.
 
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I agree that his sentence would have pretty light if the victim wasn’t a Pelosi. Just take a look at similar attacks in SF in the past decade and the charges, convictions, sentencing and actual time served.


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And now that he is convicted Federally, the state charges seem pointless.


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True, but apparently that does not fit with California sentencing. I am sure Pelosi has PTSD which they appear to be ignoring.


Yeah but marriage-to-a-hag induced PTSD is not directly applicable to this case.
 
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