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Peace through superior firepower |
The time stamp on the Capitol Police video indicates East Coast time, not West Coast. The time stamp on the police officer's body-worn cameras indicate Greenwich Mean Time, not West Coast time. Did you take this into account? | |||
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Yes and done, Sorry for the short fuse. "And I think about my loves,well I've had a few. Well,I'm sorry that I hurt them, did I hurt you too" I Was Wrong--Social D. | |||
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As I said, I’m only going on the video timestamps. I’m also left wondering who the mystery guest was in his car when he crashed drunk in Napa. ----------------------------------------- Roll Tide! Glock Certified Armorer NRA Certified Firearms Instructor | |||
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I'm pretty sure you'd have a hard time finding anybody, even in CA, who likes the Pelosi's. He's a crook, and reportedly a drunk. She's a crook, and a career politician. But after the release of the video, it appears that this wasn't a gay get together gone wrong, like some, (me included), thought. So, if we disregard everything except what the surveillance, and police body cam tapes actually show happened that night; it comes down to this: An illegal immigrant nut job, (He overstayed his visa by 20-some years), breaks into a home and beats an old man nearly to death with a hammer. That ain't right. ------------------------------------------------ "It's hard to imagine a more stupid or dangerous way of making decisions, than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." Thomas Sowell | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Are you saying you think the guy was in Pelosi's house for four and a half hours? Why? What does that have to do with this incident? | |||
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A teetotaling beer aficionado |
Why? What does that have to do with this incident?[/QUOTE] I think maybe he was suggesting the passenger in the car was DePape which of course there's no evidence of and is just wild ass speculation. Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. -D.H. Lawrence | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
This is what leftists do. They ignore facts and evidence and they attempt to reshape reality to create an outcome they desire. In this forum, such behavior is unacceptable. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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They're after my Lucky Charms! |
No clue and almost don't care about who was in the car with him. But seeing how California politics and China's attemps to influence our politics keep intersecting there, maybe just check the box that Mr Pelosi wasn't being wined and dined by China. Lord, your ocean is so very large and my divos are so very f****d-up Dirt Sailors Unite! | |||
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If I got into a wreck while driving while intoxicated and had someone in the car with me, should that person’s identity and reasons for being with me become public records? If they didn’t, I’m curious who among us would assume that because it wasn’t revealed that there was a grand conspiracy to hide sigfreund’s nefarious activities behind the cloak of official misconduct. When I was still a teenager and first learned about the atrocities the Nazis committed in their death camps, I opined out loud that enough psychopaths or just those who would simply follow any orders given them and that would willingly carry out such programs in the US could be found in any large American city. I have no doubt that it would be even easier to find more than enough people to conduct a totalitarian-type domestic surveillance program. It’s too bad the East German Stasi is long defunct. Some people would evidently fit right into their operational philosophy of wanting to know everything everyone is doing all the time, and why. Perhaps the Russian FSB is hiring. “But wait: He’s a public figure and we have a right to know such things.” As I said before, if we’re willing to deny other people their basic human rights, and that includes the right to privacy, then we will have nothing to complain about when our own rights are eliminated. ► 6.4/93.6 “I regret that I am to now die in the belief, that the useless sacrifice of themselves by the generation of 1776, to acquire self-government and happiness to their country, is to be thrown away by the unwise and unworthy passions of their sons, and that my only consolation is to be, that I live not to weep over it.” — Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Staring back from the abyss |
They're still going strong. They just changed their name to "FBI". ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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You're not wrong, college campuses and their surrounding communities, are well known havens for the socially and mentally maladjusted, most of which are very left or hold some esoteric political or, social theory. The area has a lot of inexpensive and unconventional rental units, cheap food eateries, lots of social opportunities allow the off-kilter types to gather and Berkeley & Oakland offers all sorts of free mental health and various other services. We have a few members that are LEO's in this area, they can provide better perspective on the state of things. DePape lived for a time at a well known household full of counter-culture, anti-convention activists who would protest at the Berkeley City Council; that city council is about as Left as it gets in the US for a sizable metro area. People like him and those he associated with are most definitely 5150; anyone who's dealt with the mentally ill, they latch onto a cause, thought or, idea, and go deeply down the rabbit hole formulating their own tangents and ideas, sometime even acting on them...doesn't matter the political leanings. | |||
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Can only imagine how light a sentence he would've received had this been a local case and not a federal one. David DePape sentenced to 30 years in hammer attack on ex-Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband
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You can get serious time for attacking the ruling class. | |||
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Pelosi is going to have cognitive problems and balance issues for the remainder of his life. No amount of prison time is going to compensate for that. | |||
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And then there's also the damage from the hammer attack as well... | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
That may be true, but people often get shorter sentences than that for Murder! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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True, but apparently that does not fit with California sentencing. I am sure Pelosi has PTSD which they appear to be ignoring. | |||
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I agree that his sentence would have pretty light if the victim wasn’t a Pelosi. Just take a look at similar attacks in SF in the past decade and the charges, convictions, sentencing and actual time served. P229 | |||
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And now that he is convicted Federally, the state charges seem pointless. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Left-Handed, NOT Left-Winged! |
Yeah but marriage-to-a-hag induced PTSD is not directly applicable to this case. | |||
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