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Alienator
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Sounds like a Trojan Horse. Good thing you are ever vigilant.


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Posts: 7081 | Location: NC | Registered: March 16, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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What a crybaby.

"You're anti gov't." "You made me FEEL like a second class citizen"

"I'm telling!"


I hear that's how you get a job in the Fed gov't these days. Join an oppressed victim group.


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Posts: 6985 | Location: Bay Area | Registered: December 09, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Not sure what the point would be, but seemed like a young hacker trying to pull a fast one. Maybe make DHS look bad? *Shrug*

The whole thing from "him" struck me as dimwitted and/or incompetent. Wouldn't shock me if that was our tax dollars at work though.
 
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While I do not work for a government agency, I have seen computers that are owned and operated by the Federal Courts.

They have a great big notification before you login that all traffic is monitored and for official use only. I expect DHS has this as well.

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Posts: 2856 | Location: San Diego, CA  | Registered: July 14, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Good points …


New guess:
H1b visa holder; perhaps less
DHS contractor



(Too much out of character for the real deal)





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Posts: 26756 | Location: dughouse | Registered: February 04, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Giving the registrant the benefit of the doubt and assuming that his registration attempt isn't part of a government infiltraltration attempt... it only takes a few hours/ days of reading forum posts to understand the general tone, the community culture. Who the owner/ mods are, what the rules and expectations are, what's allowed and what's forbidden. Maybe not in each and every case, but generally speaking.

If I was a Fed or LEO (or not), I'd want to know what kind of online site I was thinking about joining before actually applying for membership.

I could see maybe joining in an attempt to get some help with a specific problem or question, or maybe even for an agenda of some sort, but it seems to me he didn't do any basic due diligence in understanding the forum before attempting to register.

If he had, he would've noticed Para's and moderator presence and how things are run, and maybe even had a basic idea of some of the difficulties the forum has seen, both with new and some existing members, and why things are done a certain way.

I lurked on this forum for a year before joining, had read dozens or hundreds of threads, and knew at least some of the basic rules and expectations, and who the owners and moderators were.

There may be individual circumstances in which a specific LEO's (LEOs') or department/ agency actions are criticized or questioned, but you don't have to be Columbo to see that this forum, and the owners, generally enthusiastically supports LEAs/ LEOs.

Edited: to add
Hell, one of the forum moderators is a LEO.

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Posts: 7324 | Location: the Centennial state | Registered: August 21, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Everybody knows you lurk before you leap …





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
 
Posts: 26756 | Location: dughouse | Registered: February 04, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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You and the majority of this forum supports the LE community, and the basic premise of the need for law and the proper use of the rule of law in these United States.

That does not require support of/or permit the misuse, and or abuse of law at the hands of any person, be they in LE or any person who is a citizen not in the employ of any LE agency, both public, or in federal government capacity.

That said, the passive aggressive nature of the person emailing you is a big "put off", and I appreciate such effort by you to deny the SIGforum Stamp on the back of the hand, and turning them away at the door.

Reminds me of the "FBI guy" several years back, and happy he took is butthurt somewhere else.

I can appreciate any who in their capacity of service in all areas of LE, from Sheriff, to local PD, and all federal government capacities, and military, to share their POV with us. Understanding the ins and outs, can help up better support their efforts in our common desire for a better society.

We the People... did not abdicate our defense, protections of self, society, property or borders to any agency(ies), rather, we "partner" with them and they with us, as first and foremost, they are of and from us, and not separate.

Lest any of us, in or out of LE, forget to (all of) our detriment.




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Posts: 43921 | Location: ...... I am thrice divorced, and I live in a van DOWN BY THE RIVER!!! (in Arkansas) | Registered: December 20, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'm going to hazard a guess that this forum and Para support Law Enforcement and LEOs?

I've dealt with people like that. You cannot argue with someone who can not or does not have the ability to reason. They'd argue with a fence post.

Para - thanks for your good work. Sorry that you have to deal with so much crap.


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Posts: 8532 | Location: Rochester, NY behind enemy lines | Registered: March 12, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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To Mr. "DHS Employee":

As a long time member of this forum, it goes without saying that the owner of this site has been a fierce and vocal supporter of law enforcement in the decades of this forum's existence. In fact, with very few exceptions, everyone here is as well. While the idiots in America support the Michael Browns and Black Lives Matter, this forum as a whole supports police, the military, law and order. Oh yeah, Fuck BLM.

This site is a private forum, not a public library where entrance is almost guaranteed. Your words- " I thought your site was inclusive for Sig owners and did not realize certain people were denied access". We members appreciate the efforts that Para goes through to separate the wheat from the chaff; after all, he has decades of experience and expertise in recognizing the trolls, scammers, and con artists who hang out at other forums. And BTW, owning a Sig is not a prerequisite in gaining membership; a number of long time members do not own any Sigs whatsoever.

You seem to be putting words into Para's mouth, so to speak. He plainly, patiently, explained the ONE reason why you were denied, and yet you invent/imagine a whole truckload of accusations.

His instincts are still right on. Wink



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Posts: 16725 | Location: Texas | Registered: May 13, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Sigforum supports all LEOs and recognizes the work they do.

Been made crystal clear.




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Posts: 2243 | Location: Newnan, GA USA | Registered: January 24, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by parabellum:
What is SIGforum's official position on law enforcement and what do you find to be my personal position on law enforcement?

Both you and the vast majority of SIGforum's membership are very supportive of law enforcement--all the way from the smallest little podunk town's one cop up to, and including, federal LE. (With the possible exception of BATFE and, in my particular case, the DEA, as well.)

Border Patrol, in particular, gets nothing but mad props from the membership.

This officer, if, indeed, an officer he or she is, was way off base, IMO.



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What a wanker


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Posts: 1381 | Location: Escaped from Kalifornia to Arizona February 2022! | Registered: March 02, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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When I was still a reservist, I couldn’t log into Sigforum from any standard workstation as the network blocked any and all gun stuff/sites. Even when I needed to look at a gun site for work(I was a gunners mate) it was like pulling teeth to get past the IT guys wall.

And that was a .mil (DHS) network.

This guy is exceptionally dense.

Thanks Para for doing what you do.



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Good grief. He shoulda stopped while he was already behind Roll Eyes
 
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Who let Barney Fife become a fed?
 
Posts: 4282 | Location: Peoples Republic of Berkeley | Registered: June 12, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I agree with this. We are NOT allowed to use government computer and email address for personal use. This can get you fired.

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Originally posted by TMats:
As an ExFed, I can say confidently that registering for a forum as a “private citizen” with a benign interest in SIG firearms, using a government computer and your government email address is strictly prohibited and constitutes “misuse of government property.” All of which leads me to conclude that the person who emailed you was operating in an official capacity, not as an individual on “personal time.”

It’s been made crystal clear that this forum supports law enforcement at any level.


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Posts: 1890 | Location: Las Vegas | Registered: November 05, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by TMats:
As an ExFed, I can say confidently that registering for a forum as a “private citizen” with a benign interest in SIG firearms, using a government computer and your government email address is strictly prohibited and constitutes “misuse of government property.” All of which leads me to conclude that the person who emailed you was operating in an official capacity, not as an individual on “personal time.”

It’s been made crystal clear that this forum supports law enforcement at any level.


Exactly. Made it down to Paras comments about it wasn’t his email, I can access Sigforum from work but I certainly wouldn’t register on any sites regardless of what email I used.





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Posts: 6344 | Location: Maryland | Registered: August 10, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Tmats is spot on. The use of federal government computers for such activity is prohibited and can get you suspended or even fired.

This clown is just that.. a clown. Good riddance.

And as for supporting the thin blue line, no one with a modicum of familiarity with things here could ever say this forum did not support law-enforcement.



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Possible, person works for DHS, but in a very low level and "non-LE" position.

That could explain both the "DHS" email address and the manner of dialog. (poor grammar, passive/aggressive attitude, and overall demeanor).




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