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safe & sound |
Or it shows that you're one of the people who simply are immune to begin with. Studies show that there is a segment of the population that doesn't contract some viral diseases. Although the Wuhan is fairly new, I don't see why this wouldn't bear out in future studies as it has with older more established viral illness. | |||
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Truth Seeker |
Well that sure would be great! I know some people disagree with mask wearing and social distancing, but I plan to continue to do it in my personal life. I have to take care of my mom who has cancer and is going through chemotherapy. As far as work, I have no choice. If you are caught not wearing a mask, you will be fired on the third offense. I like having an income and being healthy. I am not pushing anything on anyone. I just thought I would share an experience. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Forever? ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan "Once there was only dark. If you ask me, light is winning." ~Rust Cohle | |||
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Truth Seeker |
Forever? Seriously? I will do it as long as I feel this virus is a threat since I am having to take care of my mother. This is new to all of us. My question is would anyone not take precautions if you had to take care of your mother with cancer going through chemotherapy? If I did not take precautions and ended up giving it to my mom and she died from it then I would never forgive myself. I guess I never should have shared my experience here. I am sorry I did. I am a lifetime conservative Republican and it is sad I feel I can’t express an experience in this thread so I am done posting about this. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
The problem with you sharing your experience is that back in March, Fauci told the world that wearing a mask wouldn’t help. He reversed himself after the lefty governors decided to unConstitutionally mandate them. Infection rates didn’t go down, and yet lefties are still crowing “Masks WORK!!!!”. The evidence indicates they don’t. Overwhelmingly indicates they don’t. If the evidence for any other product was as sketchy as the whole mask thing, we you be a hard core supporter? Of course not. This makes people skeptical. So much so that most people are tired of hearing about it. Now, we are seeing vaccinations. People who “by the science” can no longer carry the disease are still required to wear masks. Why? “It saves lives”. When you question it they scream “it’s science!!” | |||
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Truth Seeker |
Jones, as a fellow law enforcement officer, or even just a SigForum member, it disappoints me you feel there is a problem with me sharing my experience. I respect you a ton. I am only simply sharing my experience and I feel I am being attacked for doing so. I should be able to express my experience. This virus is totally new to us and we are learning as we go and I am not saying anyone is right or wrong. I am just sharing my experience. Like I said, I have not read all 600+ posts. I never should have posted my experience. I am sorry I did. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
Perhaps you should take a breath. I simply, and reasonably, explained why people are skeptical. No one is “attacking you” from what I have read. People have used this thread to troll. Nerves are frayed because of it. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
It was an honest question because I believe there really are people who will carry on for the rest of their lives wearing a mask whenever they they step out of their homes. This thing, something that would've been inconceivable less than a year ago, an entire nation--the United States of America--of people covering their faces whenever out in public...I just no longer see an end to it. I look around and I can barely comprehend what we've done to ourselves in just a few short months. This virus will now and forever after be amongst us. It's not going anywhere. It won't be eradicated like the measles. Or kept at bay like typhus by maintaining sanitary conditions. No. The Covid is here for good. So as much as it is a threat now, it will continue to be for the rest of time. Which brings me back to my first point. When will we as a nation get ourselves out of this seemingly endless Griswold in a European roundabout type nightmare? Maybe Bill Murray knows cause i sure don't. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan "Once there was only dark. If you ask me, light is winning." ~Rust Cohle | |||
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Lighten up and laugh |
In three days this thread will have been up a year. We had no clue how good we had it. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Gee, that's sad. Are you sad? You sound sad, with this sad...stuff you're saying. | |||
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Seeker of Clarity |
I'm in the far west of PA. We spiked heavy over the holidays and a bit beyond. Dropping like a rock here now. Still well above the spring numbers, but 1/2 what we were a few weeks ago. Perhaps the worst is behind us. | |||
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Member |
You may want to get tested again 5 days later. Sometimes it takes several days for it to show up in a test after a person is exposed to it. I believe masks help and research shows that they do help. A very non scientific way, is watch how far smoke travels when someone exhales a drag of cigarette smoke (4-6' +/-)....someone breathing normally would exhale around the same distance..ask them to exhale a drag with a mask on....... | |||
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Objectively Reasonable |
Would you let me pour scalding-hot water on you if you were "protected" by a screen of chicken wire? Because surely the water molecules are the same size as the ping-pong balls I'll throw at you for comparison, right? At least you're right about the "very non-scientific" part. | |||
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No, not like Bill Clinton |
Why the tests with no symptoms? What will it change? | |||
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Member |
The masks are a textbook example of the marriage of psychology and marketing. 1 year ago, 5 years ago, basically anytime before covid if you saw someone wearing a mask both you and they thought they were wearing a mask to protect themselves. Basic fact. Prior to covid wearing a mask was self protection. The masters of covid control realized that if they acknowledged that very basic fact that non mask wearers could say “well I choose to risk catching this virus”. They didn’t want overt acts of revolt against the wuflu. So after flip flopping on strategy, wear the mask, don’t wear the mask. They settled on WEAR THE MASK, YOU ARE PROTECTING OTHERS. By doing this no one could wage their personal revolt because by doing so YOU ARE ENDANGERING OTHERS! In the entire masked history of man (besides actual surgery), masks protected the wearer. By simply flipping the script it now has become you wear the mask to protect others, because you care. More importantly, if you don’t wear the mask you literally are now a threat to everyone around you. I’m glad you like wearing the mask. Feeling safe is a good thing. They asked you a legit question. For how long? This virus will never go away, that ain’t how it works. It will be years before they can conclusively tell you the effect of the vaccines. The virus is real. The marketing has always been a hoax. | |||
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paradox in a box |
Can you point me to research showing masks help? I guess maybe the KN95 help the person wearing them. But I've not seen any research showing the regular masks everyone is wearing do anything at all. Some research showed lower amounts of water droplets. But water droplets do not equal virus particles. These go to eleven. | |||
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Member |
Exactly! If masks work so well then why are the numbers going higher and higher? Everywhere I go I see the overwhelming majority of people wearing masks yet we keep being inundated with high case numbers (which are also inflated) and scare tactics by the experts and over reaching governments telling us we are all going to die and "Must" wear a mask. Wear one or don't...make ones own decision, but if the number of cases are anywhere close to the truth, it is clear that masks do not work. At this point it has become just a way for over reaching politicians to justify their over bearing actions. | |||
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Member |
I'm going through a stretch where I've had numerous medical procedures the last 12 months or so. Nothing serious, cataract surgery, several visits to my MD for a dyvertykulitis diagnosis, colonoscopy and a few other things. I always strike up conversations with the various doctors and nurses who I deal with and the Covid is always part of the discussion. So far I have been told by these medical professionals that tests are so wildly inaccurate they are almost useless, mask wearing is a myth and the information they get on a daily basis from the CDC and state health department ranges from nonsensical to entirely contradictory from one day to the next so much so that confusion dominates the morning staff meetings on what procedures they are supposed to take to meet the ever changing guidelines. Why would they be this open with me I have no idea but you could tell by body language and voice inflection these folks are frustrated and I guess happy to vent. I did have one MD lecture me on gathering in groups family or otherwise, the need for mask wearing, social distancing and in the end she threw in how Trump lied to us from the start otherwise we'd have this under control by now. Fact is I'm not sure anyone knows where the truth is in regards to this virus anymore. Sadly it was weaponized from the start for a political agenda. Because it needed to be weaponized in the form of fear to the general population half truths, lies and deception were needed. If you control fear in people you control them. Now they are already spinning up the new strain coming in from the UK that is supposed to be worse than the original. I'm guessing this vaccine is worthless against that one so more mask wearing, more social isolation and more lock downs will be needed until they are ready to stick you with yet another needle for this next one. The carrot on a stick called getting back to normal will never be reached that should be obvious by now. Remember the old days when this was for only for two weeks just until we flattened the curve? Now the end is nowhere in sight. The truth is out there somewhere. Right now confusion reigns. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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Member |
If you seek the truth on the utilization and effectiveness of cloth/nylon masks, bandanas, cheap surgical masks and K95 masks vs. .5- micron viruses - would it make more sense to try and find scientific data prior to December 2019? (if it hasn't already been completely scrubbed out of existence) | |||
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His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
I've been nursing something since Sunday, but I believe it to be just an ordinary cold, the same kind that often happens this time of year, and a mild one at that. I haven't had one since 2017, so statistically I'm due. Nevertheless, I'm self-isolating. | |||
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