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Originally posted by IrishWind:

First one was obvious. The former Imperial who brain wiped Dr Pershing.
As for the second, people are focusing on the helmets of Moff Gideon and the Armorer.

Oh, yeah, I forgot Brunette 'Former' Imperial Girl was in this episode.

I noticed Gideon's helmet looked a LOT like The Armorer's. I hope it is just a coincidence. I really like her character.

I am betting the Giant Space Turtle comes back in the finale, and is defeated by the Mythosaur. Why else introduce a kaiju threat?

The chonky guy with the big gun had a great death. This is the way.

Gideon is just played by a crappy actor. He isn't really sinister or dangerous - he is just plain annoying and the King of the Villain Monologue.

How could the Imperials build an entire base without ANY of the survivors on the surface knowing? It was literally beneath their noses - it's not like they lived in New York and the secret base was in Australia. . .


Edit to add...
Ok, maybe The Armorer is really in cahoots with Gideon and urged Bo Katan to unite all factions of Mandalore (having Bo Katan remove her helmet, when before that was a strict taboo) and take Mandalore back SO THAT Gideon could get the manpower, equipment, and personnel to defeat this new threat. A Tonkin Bay or false flag situation, as it were.

THEN, after he crushes the Mandalorians, he can claim leadership of the 'Shadow Empire.' He clearly wants to lead and command, not just be content to ask the others for approval. . .



Or, perhaps I am investing WAY TOO MUCH thought into reasonable plotlines. Didney Worl seems content to appeal to the lowest common denominator 'lazer go pew pew' nonsense.

Ya know what they say? Follow the Beskar.

Mando gets a bounty on Nevarro and will be paid in a pile of Beskar. Later, the Armorer is found with a pile of Beskar from the fallen members of the covert and yet she somehow survived. Then, Beskar “alloy” is found embedded in the ship that was transporting Moff Gideon. Now we have storm troopers with full on Neskar armor, jet packs, and Gideon has a full on Iron Man Beskar suit.

Speaking of Iron Man, just how many movies are they going to pull from? Introducing Paz Visla as The Terminator. Jurassic Park Space Dinosaurs, episodes directed by Jurassic an actress from three Jurassic park movies. Anybody but me expect Imperial spy girl to bump into Rick Deckard eating noodles before she met with the Imperial Probe Droid? Hey everybody! It’s the guy from Back to the Future! James Bond evil villain lair complete with evil villain monologue has been mentioned. Pirates of the Caribbean in Space, space, space… You have to say that like they said Pigs in Space on the Muppet Show. Muppets, everyone loves Muppets. The Planet Mandalore is post-apocalyptic. Nothing says post-apocalyptic quite like Waterworld and Beyond Thunderdome.

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Oh shizza! You have a point there. haha!

I've always enjoyed Star Wars, Boba Fett is one of my favorite fictional characters. The Boba Fett series was shameful trash, and the dialog from Mandalorian is a snooze fest. It's like eating grape nuts without milk. Sure, you can do it and it won't hurt you, but it's hard to get through and not enjoyable.

I tried, but the source material and eye candy don't hold it up enough to get past that it's dull. Frankly, what I need to do, is rewatch a few episodes, and then watch a few episodes of Firefly, and see if for some reason it's not as boring as I think it is.

The episode with the IG-88 robot was OK, and a few others had decent spots, but I feel the same way about after season 2 or so of Walking Dead. If there isn't sufficient story and drama, and the dialogue feels like a community theater rehearsal, I'm out.

I'd really like to like it. I may look at Andor, lots of people seem to dig it. But the movies? Holy shit what a shame. I thought Rogue One was decent, but compared to the rest of them. The Han Solo movie? Holy shit that's the biggest peanut in the turd of new star wars content.

Arc,

This is the first post of yours I've seen in a long while. Glad to see you back.

Finally got to watching The Spies episode, much better than the last episode which was arguably one of the worst in the entire series so, the bar wasn't too hard to get over. I've had to tell myself that this show is for kids and those whose entire entertainment is shaped by video games and staring at a screen. Every time a scene that would involve some level of technical or military aspect, take a drink. Just keep drinking, it's just not going to get markedly better. Star Wars is willfully ignorant of how the military works, let alone a martial culture. I'm just going to enjoy the last episode next week, and hope Rey or, Finn or, somebody from one of the sequels doesn't show up in it.

BTW, the Armorer isn't looking to good.

It's obvious that Disney has bungled their D+ platform, while the classics are there to enjoy, their Marval and Star Wars series content is painful. For every high-brow, well executed project like Andor, there's a multitude of crap, from Book of Boba Fett, Wanda Vision, Willow, The Proud Family, She-Hulk, etc.... Then there was the recent announcement of a movie for the Rey character, who asked for that? Disney just isn't good at this, perhaps the recent layoffs will get those who are remaining to refocus on what's important, producing entertaining content that the majority of audiences will enjoy.

I dunno guys, what do you expect from a platform called "D+?"

I'm not sure they're even grading on the bell curve.

D+

I'll admit I'm eating this corn syrup because I'm not willing to take the chance of missing something good in Star Wars. But it's been milktoast for the most part. Seriously Arc, start Andor and enjoy. I've watched it twice already. And as has been said, glad to see you around again!

From now on, only girls get lightsabers.

You know, it's funny to me that I didn't have any real issues with the Lizzo episode of Mandalorian, but disliked the most recent episode greatly.

It felt very poorly wound together. It felt very much like a JJ Abrams piece of crap story where the plot is advanced by the phrase: "And then this happens!"

It's trite and stupid, in my opinion.

As an example, what the hell was the thing that somehow embedded itself in the glass and then after who knows how long, decided to just jump out and crush the Glass-sail-barge because reasons. The locals are starving because there is no food, AS THEY ESTABLISHED, and yet this giant-ass monster is just there chilling out? And these stranded "tactical dildos" haven't ever seen it? Never encountered a dino-fuckoff in the middle of their glass ocean? They should be scared of every patch of rough glass they encounter. "Dudes, watch out, there could be a real massive ass-kicker in that pot hole."

What the hell?

And then everyone just forgets about it. No one goes, "How the F are we going to get out of here with a lizard the size of our cruiser hanging out? Also he seems hungry for ships and sleds." Nah. Move on to the next brain melty flash-n-sparkle thing! Oh, hey, asshole, how did you get Anakin's light saber that fell out of a garbage chute 30 years ago after the current owner's hand got cut off by his own pops who happened to be the original owner? Don't care! "Good story, for another day, move on to next thing!"

Stepping forward, the master fighting force, tactical beskar idiots go full burn DIRECTLY BENEATH the giant-ass glass-o-saur where *LUCKY DAY* there's the forge, or what's left of it. These idiots know where on the entire planet the remains of their forge is, but don't know about the dinosaur.

And then they get ambushed...

And then they run into a fully functional imperial hallway with lights and no one goes, "Yo wtf is this... fall back."

And then there's 50 more troopers because, even though they lost 30 outside of their secret base that was somehow built under the asshole of a giant glass-eating dinosaur, without it noticing, but it noticed the slip-n-slide manda-hobo sled. How many ships would you have to fly in and out of that place to get all that technology and gear in there? No one noticed anything and it was a brilliant trap, set by a brilliant guy that of fucking course says, "I have pressing matters, deal with this."

And then the worst part of it all was bringing those red yahoos into this. Fuck those guys. "You attack, I'll stand here and do martial-arts-shimmy-shakes while you get your swings in.

And then you expect me to believe, it's good writing that Vizla, father of one, just stayed there to "handle" all of the guys when he's already taken a shit ton of blaster fire in other episodes, but is like, "Nah I'll go fisticuffs now, y'all run away." But that melty gun yo! What a great shot! Give me a goddamn break.

And WHY did they run away when/if he was capable of kill them all by his damn self? WHAT THE FUCK was that even? This is the way??? This is NOT the way to write your fucking series. I don't even care that he died. I care more that those red moron dipshits were hiding behind a rock until all of their friends died. Think of it. Moff Gideon. Supposed scheming smart guy, sacrificed ALL of his beskar-wearing morons in the vacinity, to kill one guy. Did anyone get feels while the idiot writers were fisting you in the face with a giant ham-hock?

Great. Nice work moron. At least they won't have to eat glass or get stomped by some other random t-rex hiding behind a glass tree.

My god nothing made any sense in this episode, and if it's true that the armorer is a turncoat, or worse a bad guy the entire time, they've retconned their own dumbass series in so many ways. For example, earlier in the shit show: Why would she kill storm troopers when she was alone? Why would she outfit Din or any other Mandalorian at all, let alone let them leave with any beskar armor? Why would she set up a covert on a planet in the middle of NOWHERE when she could have just as easily called in Moff Gideon's forces and wiped them all out. Is she playing 4D sabaac?

And then, THEN, the guy we've been following all these episodes, with the swager and pistol chops enough to kill Space Johnny Ringo... the guy that wouldn't take his hat off no matter how bad it smells because the Mandalorian Code is his bible and religion... hands his balls to gender-swap Starbuck and says "I'll serve you forever my queen!" like moron idiot aunt-fucking Jon Snow.

This shit was bad and the writers should feel bad. God what a stupid piece of shit. Don't even get me started on the fact that those inept assholes had Hux on their lame ass episode of this show. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if in the final episode of this season they have Bo Katan riding a mythosaur down main street on Tattooine just long enough for Boba to roll up on his Rankor so the beasts can high-five, and THEN Bo Katan and Boba can high-five in the air on their jet packs, but the smoke from the jet packs makes "WOMAN" symbol and then a giant sand vagina swallows the scene to end credits, followed by a post-credit scene where StarWars Jack Black, who I didn't really have issues with, announces a new planetary program for making trans mandalorians.

EDIT - That's a lot of carriage returns and I'm not sorry. I've been stewing on this for a few days and decided to just post something anyway.

Huh.

Must be more of a Star Trek fan.

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Originally posted by Veeper:

This shit was bad and the writers should feel bad. God what a stupid piece of shit. Don't even get me started on the fact that those inept assholes had Hux on their lame ass episode of this show. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if in the final episode of this season they have Bo Katan riding a mythosaur down main street on Tattooine just long enough for Boba to roll up on his Rankor so the beasts can high-five, and THEN Bo Katan and Boba can high-five in the air on their jet packs, but the smoke from the jet packs makes "WOMAN" symbol and then a giant sand vagina swallows the scene to end credits, followed by a post-credit scene where StarWars Jack Black, who I didn't really have issues with, announces a new planetary program for making trans mandalorians.

EDIT - That's a lot of carriage returns and I'm not sorry. I've been stewing on this for a few days and decided to just post something anyway.

Beautiful

Veeper I have a request:

I'd really like you to stop holding back and tell us how you really feel

Yeah, this season is dogshit. Milksop crap. I'm still watchin for some damn reason, but the writing just feels lazy and phoned in.

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I'm still watchin for some damn reason, but the writing just feels lazy and phoned in.

This is exactly where I'm at.

Again, I didn't have any real beefs with the Doc Brown episode. It wasn't stellar writing, but it was very much a Clone Wars episode. That being said...

Take most any episode from Season 1 and 2 and put them up against Season 3 and it'll be a stark contrast in the writing and atmosphere. Heck, there's an episode with giant ice spiders, including baby face-hugger type eggs, and it's STILL a better, more tightly written, script then this shit. Again, watch the Ahsoka episode from Season 2, and you'll see it's PARSECS ahead of this junk.

Shoot. If anyone can't get to it to watch it, just set up a free Plex account and shoot me an email with the email address you used to sign up. I'll give you access to my Plex server so you can watch the first two seasons too, and then decide for yourself.

I rewatched the first season last week because I didn’t remember it being this bad. It wasn’t.

In season one, baby Yoda lifts a mud horn, heals Greef Karga, and shields the team from the flame thrower trooper. In season three, he spins in a chair.

In season one, Mando single-handedly takes down bad guys at least 10-1. In season three, Mandalorians can’t beat anyone in a 1-1 fight, except one guy who manages 50-1, so everyone else can run away. It wasn’t a trap though, it was an ambush.

In season one, Mando is a badass gunslinger who gets things done. In season three, he pledges his undying loyalty to a woman who sulked in a corner when she didn’t get her way.

In the first episode of season two, it takes a village to down a Krayt Dragon. Well, the village people, the sand people, and one Mandalorian, In season three, dinosaurs rule, Mandalorians drool.


As for the Armorer, I caught a few things from the last two episodes of season one the second time around. First, when Mando sees the baby Yoda quest giver again, the quest giver admires the “exquisite craftsmanship” of Mando’s armor then "It’s amazing how beautiful Beskar can be when forged by its ancestral artisans”. Now he knows Mando didn’t have a full suit of shiny Beskar armor to begin with and he knows he gave Mando a pile of Beskar, but how does he know Mando’s new armor was forged by an ancestral artisan? Clearly the covert under the city isn’t the best kept secret on Navarro. Second, when the storm troopers enter the forge, they seem relaxed and familiar with the Armorer. This is after, most of the rest of the covert was killed by storm troopers.

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
I've always enjoyed Star Wars, Boba Fett is one of my favorite fictional characters. The Boba Fett series was shameful trash, and the dialog from Mandalorian is a snooze fest. It's like eating grape nuts without milk. Sure, you can do it and it won't hurt you, but it's hard to get through and not enjoyable.

I tried, but the source material and eye candy don't hold it up enough to get past that it's dull. Frankly, what I need to do, is rewatch a few episodes, and then watch a few episodes of Firefly, and see if for some reason it's not as boring as I think it is.

The episode with the IG-88 robot was OK, and a few others had decent spots, but I feel the same way about after season 2 or so of Walking Dead. If there isn't sufficient story and drama, and the dialogue feels like a community theater rehearsal, I'm out.

I'd really like to like it. I may look at Andor, lots of people seem to dig it. But the movies? Holy shit what a shame. I thought Rogue One was decent, but compared to the rest of them. The Han Solo movie? Holy shit that's the biggest peanut in the turd of new star wars content.

Arc,
I started out almost openly hostile to Andor. But I gave it a shot (thank you sigforum) and I was really glad that I did. I really liked it.
I also bailed on Walking Dead. Any community that cannot a) use a hatchet and b) fell trees to make a fort, deserves to be eaten. And now I am underwhelmed with "the most fearsome fighters in the galaxy" the mandolorians seem to just fly around and randomly shoot at crap. Kinda like storm troopers with backpacks.

Welcome back.

I just watched Game of Thrones on DVD. It was decent. I think I'll wait.

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Originally posted by redstone:
the mandolorians seem to just fly around and randomly shoot at crap. Kinda like storm troopers with backpacks.

Good analogy! I especially like the ropes and flames. How incredibly unnecessary and inefficient.

Well, that was hot garbage. Don’t get me wrong, visually exciting and a lot of action, but some of the worst storytelling this season. Stuff just happens that doesn’t make much sense and so much deus ex machina. Things that were teased in previous episodes aren’t mentioned or addressed. This really has become a kids show.

Remember the last episode was called “Spies”, implying there’s more than one? Psych! There isn’t another one. Remember in the last episode, the beskar armor Imperial troops were pretty much impervious to Mandolorian weapons, except for Paz’s minigun? Forget it, in this one they get easily taken out by regular blaster fire. Expecting a Mythosaur? No Mythosaur for you!