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| Purveyor of Fine Avatars  |
You're quoting from the book. I've already established that I understood it to be that way; however, it is not depicted that way in the movie. "I'm yet another resource-consuming kid in an overpopulated planet raised to an alarming extent by Hollywood and Madison Avenue, poised with my cynical and alienated peers to take over the world when you're old and weak!" - Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbes" | |||
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I've watched it 3 times now. It's pretty well done from the perspective of a person not familiar with the Dune books. Paul still looks weak but he certainly seems capable. And he seems to mature / grow as the film progresses - not physically but his demeanor. Why didn't Jessica use the voice when confronted by the Fremen? Would that have weakened their acceptance, even if they would have won the confrontation? "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Casuistic Thinker and Daoist |
Hopefully at least one of those times has been in IMAX. It is a completely difference experience, almost a completely different movie, in the intended format
The voice is only used on one individual at a time because it needs to be tuned to them...that is why Paul was less successful during their escape; he hadn't focused in on his subject enough. This was referred to in the breakfast scene earlier in the movie No, Daoism isn't a religion | |||
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You're right, it does look like some kind of warp gate thing in the movie, which is bizarre given how closely Villeneuve stuck to the book almost everywhere. | |||
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I am rereading the book now because it has been years and I couldn't figure out what to read next. Early in the book, before they leave Caladan, Dr. Yueh gives Paul a "filmbook" about the study of a captured "small [sandworm], only one hundred and ten meters long and twenty-two meters in diameter" and tells Paul there are reliable reports of sandworms over 400 meters long and that "there's reason to believe even larger ones exist." I can't remember off the top of my head if there are any larger sandworms described later in the book or in the sequels. | |||
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| The Quiet Man |
If I remember correctly, Muad’dib becomes a sand rider after summoning a worm “half a league” long. If that’s a legit measurement, you’re looking at a 2400 meter worm. A true Old Man of the Desert. | |||
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You're right: "Presently he saw the faraway outline of the creature’s track against the dawnlight and realized he had never before seen a maker this large, never heard of one this size. It appeared to be more than half a league long, and the rise of the sandwave at its cresting head was like the approach of a mountain." (Chapter 40) | |||
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Don't Panic |
Saw it yesterday, enjoyed it. Bring on Part II!  | |||
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| I swear I had something for this |
https://collider.com/dune-2-feyd-rautha-confirmed/ Villeneuve just confirmed that Feyd-Rautha will be in Part 2, but no casting information yet. It blows up my theory that they were going to shove Rabban into Feyd's role, but on the plus side, we're not going to see Dave Bautista try to be an evil genius. It also makes me wonder if they're going to be ballsy and try for a Part 3. It's the best outcome to best tell the whole story of Dune, but is the audience going to come back? Going this route, I can't remember anything like Helm's Deep occuring, but without it, there's a lot to jam into Part 2. Shaddam the IV needs an introduction and development, and the only way the book made Irulan a character is by making her the "historian" recounting these events with some of her thoughts in the chapter headings. The original plan was to have a Sisterhood of Dune series on HBO Max, which could have introduced some of the power players that Part I didn't have room for, but I haven't heard anything about that project since HBO blew up their plans last year. If Part I was 2.5 hours, then Part 2 could be almost 4 hours to do everything right. | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
You need to read the books, my friend. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine |
SPOILERS (Although there have been hints.) Most importantly, the Emperor learned that Duke Leto trained a small force under Halleck to a similar level of deadliness as the Imperial Sardaukar. The Sardaukar are the underlying reason the Imperium is powerful. Therefore, he fears the Atreides. So he makes a secret deal with the Harkonnens to get rid of them. However, (and this is the spoiler) everyone made the mistake of not knowing how many Fremen were on Arrakis and even more importantly, that they were even more deadly than the Sardaukar. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Watched it again yesterday. I find most interesting the part up to the attack and then after the attach when Paul is running with Jessica. The attack is has action but is generally mechanical so I've started to skip it (am I missing something?). BTW, what's up with the blood letting sacrifices? Seems rather ritual for a space faring race. Thanks JHE - seems like I don't need to watch part 2 now. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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W07VH5 |
Are you asking about the fremen cutting themselves? You cannot sheath an unblooded crysknife. | |||
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He's referring to the the failed Sardaukar candidates are hung upside down, sacrificed and the drained blood is collected used for their pre-deployment ceremony. The Sardaukar have a very fearsome reputation across the empire, their training is exceptionally harsh; they're sociopaths by definition. Sacrificial ceremonies, organ eating and blood rituals reinforce this reputation amongst the members, imbuing and inculcating a sense of invincibility while also spreading rumor and fear across the empire. | |||
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I think he’s talking about the scene on the Sardaukar planet, with a bunch of guys strapped upside down and bleeding out in some sort of ritual where the Sardaukar fighters get smeared with blood on their faces before battle. At least that’s what it looked like to me. | |||
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| Casuistic Thinker and Daoist |
I'm pretty sure he's referring to the throat singing scene set on Salusa Secundus. The Sardaukar troops are being anointed with the blood of their failed candidates...there was a 60% failure rate...you see their shaman walking among them marking them with the blood. For the Sardaukar, killing was their religion. All religions have their rituals, no matter how advanced they become. You also have to remember that Dune is set in a time where society had reverted to feudalism No, Daoism isn't a religion | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine |
My spoilers aren't complete, not even close. They are more like hints. Stay tuned. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| Purveyor of Fine Avatars |
Partially confirmed: https://youtu.be/JtkYObkzcpY "I'm yet another resource-consuming kid in an overpopulated planet raised to an alarming extent by Hollywood and Madison Avenue, poised with my cynical and alienated peers to take over the world when you're old and weak!" - Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbes" | |||
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Charmingly unsophisticated |
I think they are both. I mean a portal or stargate is a permanent structure. Why can't, for example, the Atreides fleet enter a Heighliner on Caladan, be tucked away in a corner, then the Navigator(s) do their thing and "travel" to Arrakis? I'm trying to recall if the book mentions it taking a period of time but even if it does, the Heighliner's engine "folds space" so it kinda makes some sense that the "off ramp" to the Heighliner appears above both Caladan and Arrakis. Maybe it takes a bit for the Navigator(s) to do their computations and the engine to spool up, during which time the "cargo" has to be inside the ship. Once complete, they exit. _______________________________ The artist formerly known as AllenInWV | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
PSA: Dune is scheduled to be released tomorrow (11 Jan) on Blu Ray. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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