Hmmm...

The Good:

-Jamie and Tyrion's brief farewell was very well-acted.
-We finally got the Cleganebowl that everyone's been clamoring for over the last many seasons.
-The visuals were extremely well done. One of the most visually impressive episodes of the series.

The Bad:

-I just don't buy the whole "Dany goes from 0 to Psychopathic Mass Murderer, in the equivalent of half an episode". I think it could have really worked, had it been more fully fleshed out over a longer period. Like, say, a season or two. A slow burn into hereditary madness, so to speak. But, as we've mentioned already, this just seems like yet another example of the creators hurtling at breakneck speed into a extremely rushed ending.



So I guess the only thing left to debate is: Who's going to kill Dany next episode?

I think they're heavily feinting with Arya, but it will end up being someone less expected. Probably Jon. Maybe a bigger twist.

Clearly it’s Daenerys against the world now, we’ll except maybe Gray Worm.


RIP Hound

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Originally posted by MattW:
Clearly it’s Daenerys against the world now, we’ll except maybe Gray Worm.

She still has the support of the remaining Unsullied and Dothraki.

I want to know where these hordes of Unsullied reinforcements we see in next week's sneak peek came from... There were only a small number of Unsullied who survived Winterfell, and an even smaller number left after their fleet sank. How does she suddenly have hundreds of Unsullied to stand in formation in the courtyard?

I felt like Daenerys executing Varys was metaphorical for her actions at King's Landing.

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

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Originally posted by MattW:
Clearly it’s Daenerys against the world now, we’ll except maybe Gray Worm.

She still has the support of the remaining Unsullied and Dothraki.

I want to know where these hordes of Unsullied reinforcements we see in next week's sneak peek came from... There were only a small number of Unsullied who survived Winterfell, and an even smaller number left after their fleet sank. How does she suddenly have hundreds of Unsullied to stand in formation in the courtyard?

You’re correct, I lumped Gray Worm in with the Unsullied. Outside of foot soldiers, I don’t think she has any support.

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Originally posted by Orguss:
Arya is gonna kill Daenerys, for sure.

Cersei is not the only one with green eyes....

I think they are setting it up for Arya, but I'm calling Jon doing it.

Action packed episode for sure. Disappointed how Cersei died...assume she did. I was hoping Jamie or Arya would kill her. On the other hand, The Hound's fight with the Mountain was perfect and ended the only way that made sense.

Maybe Arya tries, Grey Worm kills her, Jon flies into a rage killing Grey Worm but becomes severely injured and Tyrion kills Daenerys?

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Originally posted by Orguss:
Maybe Arya tries, Grey Worm kills her, Jon flies into a rage killing Grey Worm but becomes severely injured and Tyrion kills Daenerys?

That's more along the lines of what I'm expecting, at this point.

Best episode so far this season. Not sure why you would plan your dragon attack in broad daylight but whatever. Did Cersei have wild fire stored all over the city, possibly on purpose?

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Originally posted by xantom:
Did Cersei have wild fire stored all over the city, possibly on purpose?

It wasn't Cersei.

The Mad King Aerys II (Dany's father) had stored secret stockpiles of wildfire all around the city, and planned to set them off if he ever lost control of the city.

The Mad King's decision to set off these caches as Ned and Robert were seizing the city during Robert's Rebellion is what caused Jaime to kill him and become the Kingslayer, in order to save the people of King's Landing from being murdered en mass. (Jaime also killed the Head Pyromancer before he could carry out the King's order.)

All this was discussed in previous seasons, and discussed in greater depth in the books.

Some of these hidden caches had been discovered, including some that the Alchemists' Guild knew about and were used to acquire enough Wildfire for use in the Battle of the Blackwater, and later the large cache under the Great Sept that Qyburn's spies discovered and Cersei then used to blow up the Tyrells and the Sparrows. But many of the secret caches around the city had never been found, and were still laying in wait to be set off.

So Dany's actions leading to (unknowingly) setting off these wildfire stockpiles hidden by her crazy father puts further emphasis on Dany's own madness, since she ended up carrying out her father's insane plan of burning the innocent civilians in the city to death.

It also shows that despite his efforts, Jamie was ultimately unable to save the people of the city from the Mad Targaryens, only to delay their fate for a couple decades.

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Originally posted by xantom:
Not sure why you would plan your dragon attack in broad daylight but whatever.

I thought it was ridiculous that suddenly nobody could fire a Scorpion accurately.

Looks like Dany learned some air to ground tactics.

Not exactly what I expected, for sure. Some observations:

Dany's initial strategy of a straight on Dragon run at the fleet in broad daylight strikes me as reckless. Seems like she was taking quite a risk with her last surviving dragon. I would think a nighttime attack or an attack from the rear would have made more sense. Instead she was relying on pure luck.

But all's well that ends well, I suppose.

And it took less than an hour to waste 7 years of character development on Jaime

The Mountain was harder to kill than the Night King.

Cersei is built up as the evil villain that several major characters wanted to kill - but they take her out with a pile of bricks? Not satisfying.

Certainly looks like they are setting up Arya to take out Dany (who has green eyes).

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
The Mountain was harder to kill than the Night King.

Unlike the Night King, he had no Achilles Heel or Kryptonite.

The crazy, intelligent, hot triangle rears it's ugly head.

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I would think a nighttime attack or an attack from the rear would have made more sense. Instead she was relying on pure luck.

Steep attack angle plus sunlight glare I guess Still seems dumb not to attack at night. I was just having a fit in my living room waiting for drogon to go down.

Well then.
She really broke the wheel.

Bwahahaha!!!!

So we'll still defend it, right?

Lol, so much for that fleet that killed a dragon in two seconds flat. Or a city filled with dragon killing artillery. Or a whole fucking army of 20,000. Guess all she needed to do is Hulk out.

I mean, how much Euron ex machina do you need? Or, shit, horse ex machina? Plot armor for everyone? An entire Dothraki army again after it was wiped out? An entire Unsullied army ex nihilo?

Sure, great episode, guys. Top. Men.