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Noted British historian Mary Beard has her take on Nolan's film
Mary Beard on The Odyssey: It’s great, but where are Homer’s jokes?
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Matt Damon and Anne Hathaway are marvellous in Christopher Nolan’s stunning epic for today but he misses the original’s humour — and eroticism
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Nolan is one of the few film directors with the skill and the bravura to take on The Odyssey from start to finish. Nolan relishes the complexity of the chronology, as he moves between different time zones, intercutting the stories of Telemachus and Penelope with the long backstory of the Trojan war and Odysseus’ voyage. And he includes some sharp readings of the poem, bringing to the surface, for example, the doubts about Odysseus’ leadership that are raised by Homer but often passed over by modern readers and adaptors. What kind of leader, after all, arrives back home, as Odysseus did, having lost every single member of his crew? At several moments we see the unhappiness of some of his men with their heroic leader, not so far from mutiny.
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Nolan’s dark and menacing inhabitants of Hades are a brilliant reminder of just how dangerous and terrifying it is to leave the world of the living. For many people all this will be a great introduction to Homer.

But Nolan’s Odyssey isn’t always so successful. Of course, there is always the danger that, when a professional classicist gets her hands on any modern adaptation of an ancient text, she will spectacularly miss the point. Pedantry gets in the way of enjoyment. The truth is that it is very rarely useful to ask how “faithful” any adaptation is. Ultimately, none are or can be faithful (and that is not just in the tired question of the actors’ skin colour). The important test is whether the changes and reinterpretations introduced by the adaptor add more than they lose. Nolan doesn’t always pass that test with flying colours.

The character of Odysseus himself is one case in point. In Homer’s Odyssey the crucial feature of the hero is his “tricksiness”. In the first line of the poem, he is referred to by a rare Greek word, polytropos. That literally means something like “very twisty turny” and has often been translated as “wily” or more recently by Emily Wilson as “complicated”. In practice, it heralds an Odysseus who throughout the poem is playful, ironic, witty, dangerously deceptive and sometimes an out-and-out liar — so much so that the reader will always wonder which of the many stories he tells are true and which not. No one tells whoppers quite like Odysseus — and that’s part of the poem’s tantalising pleasure.
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Lastly Chris Rufo always good for a pointed quote:
https://x.com/christopherrufo/.../2079220744962347132

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I'm sorry. What exactly are you trying to say? Spell it out so there is no doubt.

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An entire breakdown of the film by Jonathan Pageau, and the symbolism Nolan is using.


*WARNING SPOILERS*
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The nonsense of The Odyssey goes with the same principle of history....it is dependent on who writes it.
 
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I saw it Sunday at the request of the birthday boy, I would have eventually watched it anyway.

Didn't care for it. Damon did not convince me he was playing Odysseus, he was pretty lame. The little queers role didn't bother me, it gets skewered almost immediately. Long and mostly boring


 
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I’ve actually never watched Team America and I understand the reference and the point.

Goose, the point is Matt Damon can’t play anyone or anything more complex than Matt Damon.


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Goose, the point is Matt Damon can’t play anyone or anything more complex than Matt Damon.


He's also a member of the Film Actors Guild.
 
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I talked to my son early this afternoon, he went to see this movie on Wed. night at an IMAX theater, he bought the tickets long ago. He is my trusted voice on cinema, and he has seen all of Nolan's films; he has a film student's understanding of film history coupled with an appetite for modern cinema. He says this is Nolan's worst, he called it a "downward slide", worse than Tenet. He liked some specific scenes and shots, but otherwise said the script was "puzzling", and casting was stupid; he reminded me that he did study Homer's original version in college and actually did a refresher "Cliff Notes" course right before seeing it.

But my son said he didn't want to get too much into how shitty he thought the film was, he referred me to this video, reflecting mostly how he personally felt about the film, feeling Walsh got 80% of it right. I watched it this afternoon, and man, what a shitshow.




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Wait - where's Homer and his blue haired wife? Razz






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