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"I'm yet another resource-consuming kid in an overpopulated planet raised to an alarming extent by Hollywood and Madison Avenue, poised with my cynical and alienated peers to take over the world when you're old and weak!" - Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbes" | ||
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As long as Matt Damon doesn’t need to be rescued again. | |||
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The cast list leaves me on "Wait and See." I'm not thrilled with it, but if I see more of the film, I might change my mind. | |||
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The casting is a 100% "No" for me. No chance I'll see this movie. I'm sure it'll be well made, but at the end of the day, it's just another retelling with a big budget and people I don't enjoy watching. And you know what? I just don't need it. | |||
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I will see this after it leaves the theaters. Nolan has made some very good movies over the years, most of them I own on disc. "But, as luck would have it, he stood up. He caught that chunk of lead." Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock "If there's one thing this last week has taught me, it's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it." Clarence Worley | |||
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I think Oppenheimer is the only movie of his I didnt need to see in theaters. I'll go see it though I believe I will be Oconus for its release. | |||
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Same. I don’t do theaters anymore due to phones. I’ll rent it on 4k disc as soon as it comes out (90 days or less from theatrical release) and if it’s typical Nolan I’ll end up buying it. Nolan is the finest director living. He doesn’t make bad films. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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Nothing in this trailer left me wanting to see it. When I googled the movie and saw the cast I decided to wait till it streams. | |||
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Nolan usually puts out some deeply detailed work however, this one I'm gonna have to 'wait and see' based upon how the props and 'look/feel' of this looks. My first gripe is with the cast, I get that not everybody on their wish-list is available but, the three lead actors: Matt Damon, Tom Holland and Anne Hathaway are...well lets be honest, they not exactly resembling anybody that lives in a balmy, sunny, coastal part of the world. Secondarily, the props are looking, inaccurate. Without going into detail it appears Hollywood is attempting to over-prop a period-piece instead of relying correct representation. I love the story of The Odyssey, it's a tale of adventure, a tale of survival and a tale of warriors attempting to return home and integrate back to society and Nolan is as good as any to tell this tale given his darker-tones of his prior work. I fear there was enough higher-ups inputting their wants on this and Nolan having to pick his battles with how he was going to create it. | |||
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Looks like someone else recognized the problems, inserting period-correct props and costuming, even the ship they made accurate. Pretty amazing how AI is rapidly improving | |||
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As suspected...despite the ensemble cast, its infected with DEI 'artistic license' While casting Zendaya as Athena isn't overly bothersome since the character isn't the focus, but casting Lupita Nyongo as Helen of Troy pushes this film into circus-territory. Helen is supposed to be of white-skin and golden hair with dark-blue eyes as described in Homer's work, she epitomized the fair-beauty model that was seen on Greek vases and frescos. As Knowles points out, can Phillip Seymour Hoffman portray Malcom-X? | |||
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No dice for me…. ______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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It works the other way too, right? | |||
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And no, as much as I would love a great film version (and Nolan -could- make such a film, but this isn’t it) I won’t be seeing it. Everyone renting it or watching on streaming anything, you are still supporting the film and Hollywood will count you in. | |||
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Helen of Troy casting sealed it for me. Hard pass. | |||
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If I'd seen her in the original trailer, I wouldn't have bothered posting it. I'm disappointed in Nolan for doing this. "I'm yet another resource-consuming kid in an overpopulated planet raised to an alarming extent by Hollywood and Madison Avenue, poised with my cynical and alienated peers to take over the world when you're old and weak!" - Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbes" | |||
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So am I but at the same time I’m reminded of a few things. One, white actors have played Mexicans, Asians, Middle Easterners, for decades. I was just watching Delta Force, because love me some Chuck Norris. And Robert Forster, God rest his soul, played Abdul. I mean it’s been happening the other way around for decades. Then at the same time, the Left woketards have gone ballistic on a number of actors in the last 10 years. When ScarJo played the main character in the Ghost in the Shell. Oh my, did lib weiners lose their shit on social medias. I’ve never been on that platforms, but I read about the controversy. She also got her tits busted over her playing a trans dude in some movie called Rub & Tug, that I never saw and likely never will. So where does that leave us? Well historically, men in the theater, played women. And this is mythology at the end of the day. It’s not like the Odyssey is the Bible. So what does it even matter then? I want to see a good film because they are getting extremely rare these days. I think for myself, and will make up my own mind. I’m not going to the theater to see it and I have a 4k disc rental service I use and that’s how I’ll watch it. Certainly not streaming. https://www.yahoo.com/entertai...aying-173742252.html https://www.britannica.com/top...nslations-and-legacy What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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As expected The Drinker weighs in and ....is underwhelmed. Stay for the commentary... | |||
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He hasn’t seen the movie so he is just making a video for content ($$$). As a Nolan fan I’ll be the first to condemn the damn thing if it sucks. I’ll always tell the truth. And I usually always agree with Drinker on this stuff, but even me, I mean it’s just a damn trailer. The casting decisions, well it was easy to figure out why. The Academy (Oscars) has all these woke/diversity rules for anything getting submitted for awards. Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, etc. You have to have representation from this and that group, and that means African-American, and LBGT, both. If you don’t have a “diverse” cast you can’t win any awards as the film won’t be submitted. This is the most expensive film he has ever made so awards means money, to recuperate investment. As in people that won’t go to the theater to see it, but it wins some fucking award next year at the Oscars, well it’s round 2 for revenue generation. So basically any director, and especially people like Nolan, PTA, Villenevue, etc, the top directors in the world right now, have to be subjected to these bullshit Academy rules. And I’m sure the fucking studios are all woked out too with this shit, with representation rules, etc, to get funding. So I guess you just straight up quit directing if you don’t like it? Quit working? I don’t agree with any of it, at all, but this is the reality now, unfortunately. That’s why you have this “diverse” cast. These film makers are forced into the shit. I haven’t seen the guy making anything but incredible film since that Insomnia film. We’re talking Grand Slams since then. If this sucks it’ll the first time for him as Insomnia was still a decent film, just not art blockbuster turf. Nolan keeps changing genres and producing incredible, intelligent film. The only other director I’ve ever seen do the equivalent was Kubrick, who never won an academy award so I wish Nolan would say fuck the awards and all their bullshit. But given what this damn film costs, I guarantee he had zero choice to get the funding. If it’s shit, and bombs, which I highly question, then this woke shit has spread to even the best director in the world right now, and perhaps that needs to happen to force change in Hollyweird. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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